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Please review the deletion discussion for me. Should the discussion be closed and the article deleted? Please give me your thoughs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jeffersonian_Model --[[Stingray23464|Stingray23464]] |
Please review the deletion discussion for me. Should the discussion be closed and the article deleted? Please give me your thoughs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jeffersonian_Model --[[User:Stingray23464|Stingray23464]] |
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How to respond to personal attacks
You need to spend less time on the internet.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.15.129 (talk • contribs)
- I appreciated your concern with my personal life and spending too much time on Wikipedia. Internet addiction is a real disorder. However, I do not suffer from it (maybe I am in denial). Well, take it easy and thanks again for your concern. Chris Kreider 01:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Chris chris chrisy chris chris. You clearly do have an internet problem. Authoring an article on the USS Hunchback is one of the clearest signs. I suggest you stop, log off, unplug the computer, maybe even throw it away, and try to strike up a conversation with the nearest girl. It will be difficult at first, human contact, but please, just try. It is so much better than reading about girls on wikipedia. AND NO ONLINE DATING THAT WOULD ONLY DRAG YOU DEEPER INTO THIS HOLE.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.15.129 (talk • contribs)
- I was first tempted to remove this as a personal attack. But, I really dont care and think it is kind of funny so, this is why it stays
- On a random note, here is my response. "As i stated before, thank you for your concern with my personal life, most recently with my lack of human contact and needing to talk to a girl. I generally dont like to throw this information around but, to apease your concern, I do have a girlfriend. (Yes, she is real but you will have to take my word for it). Articles like the USS Hunchback are something to do that is not work related or even people related (some people, including myself, may have Introverted tendancies. In all, i appreciated your concern. Perhaps you might spend less time making personal attacks and more time socializing or even enhancing wikipedia!. If you need any help with this, please let me know. Thanks, Chris Kreider 02:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)"
- Hahaha, I love trolls. Of course, they never realize how much time they're wasting... -- febtalk 16:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Sock Puppetry
Hey Chris, User:Lesnar fan is a sock of banned user Verdict. Could you block please? Thanks. Bmg916Speak to MeSign 19:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
what?
what do you mean??--Matrix17 17:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the person in mind have an opinion of her own. If she thinks its a keeper she will vote for that or the opposit what i say isnt final.--Matrix17 17:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah i cans ee it in your perspective to. But i still believe in that people do what people want to even do someone else just makes a suggestion. But yeah its in the past. Now we move along.;) have a nice evening--Matrix17 17:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
RfA
Replied on my talk page, since it's a three-party discussion. · AO Talk 18:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Sock Puppet
Looks like User:Wrestlinglover420 has created a sock User:Machismo420 to evade your block. The similarity in user name and the fact he erased the suspected sock puppeteer notice of User:Wrestlinglover420's User page tipped me off. He created three others as well, and used two to vandalize my user space (and yours I think?). Bmg916SpeakSign 19:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- The practical joke thing he left on his talk page tipped me off also, as wrestlinglover had one of those. Bmg916SpeakSign 19:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Obvious sock puppet. I have indegf blocked. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Bmg916SpeakSign 20:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for signing my sig book! Bmg916SpeakSign 20:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- I dont make a habit out of it. However, we work together enough that I figured it give it a shot. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Either way, I really appreciate it! Especially since you don't make a habit of it. Also, do you think we should now indef. block User:Wrestlinglover420 for creating abusive/ban-evading socks? Bmg916SpeakSign 13:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I am personally not comfterable making that decision by myself. If you feel you could prevent a persuasive case to WP:ANI, you could resuest a community ban. If he continues disruptive behavior after his block, I will have no problen lengthening it. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'll wait until after the block to see if he continues disruptive behavior. I'll AGF here, although it's hard too after he creates abusive socks to evade his fifth block that's so unjust because the Wikipedia world is so cruel and unfair. Bmg916SpeakSign 14:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I am personally not comfterable making that decision by myself. If you feel you could prevent a persuasive case to WP:ANI, you could resuest a community ban. If he continues disruptive behavior after his block, I will have no problen lengthening it. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Either way, I really appreciate it! Especially since you don't make a habit of it. Also, do you think we should now indef. block User:Wrestlinglover420 for creating abusive/ban-evading socks? Bmg916SpeakSign 13:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I dont make a habit out of it. However, we work together enough that I figured it give it a shot. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for signing my sig book! Bmg916SpeakSign 20:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Bmg916SpeakSign 20:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Obvious sock puppet. I have indegf blocked. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
←I agree, and in all honesty, should he continue down the path he is on, he will prob get indef blocked. However, I would like to give him a chance to clean uo his game. (I am alot nicer than many administrators in that aspect). If you have any more suspected socks, just let me know, deny him recognition, and well take it from there. Thanks for being patient through this. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
RE: Sock
How'd you find that one? If you want a reason to indef. block him besides the sock puppets, see his demeanor when discussing controversial subjects over at the Booker T Talk page under the first black champion topic. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- You know, you really assume good faith, any other admin would have indef. blocked him already. If he's pushing your buttons, there's a problem. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I extended is block. Indef blocking invites a long sock puppet war and the such. I would love to give him a chance to not go through that. If I indef block him, I will push for a community ban, which means I need to gather evidence, and support it at WP:ANI. I will galdly do it if he strikes again. However, until then, i wont worry about it! Just let me know if you see him again. Thanks!-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- You can bet I'll let you know,I'm honestly done AGF with him he's so argumentative and disruptive. Bmg916SpeakSign 18:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- After dealing with his unsound theories on racial purity, I knew he'd be one to watch. I see what you're saying though regarding getting frustrated, very sound advice. Thanks. Bmg916SpeakSign 18:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- You can bet I'll let you know,I'm honestly done AGF with him he's so argumentative and disruptive. Bmg916SpeakSign 18:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I extended is block. Indef blocking invites a long sock puppet war and the such. I would love to give him a chance to not go through that. If I indef block him, I will push for a community ban, which means I need to gather evidence, and support it at WP:ANI. I will galdly do it if he strikes again. However, until then, i wont worry about it! Just let me know if you see him again. Thanks!-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
sockpuppets of Mrlob
Altough MaoVerdonk is a definet sockpuppet of Mrlob, Blowland isn't. I know Blowland in real and he is not Mrlob, Mrlob has just been doing things 9including vandalizing) to his page a lot. He is not that active because he can't speak English that well. So I think you can remove the suspected sockpuppet link from his users page. Kermanshahi 06:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Replied in his usual defensive "the world is out to get me" way. I suggest running a checkuser on the IP of his name and all the socks so we can say "we have undeniable proof". My patience is running real thin here, I don't enjoy being accused of "harassment" by someone whose views on racial purity are looked at with astonishment by anyone with common sense. Bmg916SpeakSign 14:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- I dont have the power to run a check user. He is blocked, let him bitch on his userpage. (I.E. just ignore him, he will eventually give up. WP:DENY. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Can't you request one though? Bmg916SpeakSign 14:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- You can too. However, his behavior is not that severe. There are not hundereds of suspected sock puppets, he is not engaging in illegal behavior. Yes, he is annoying, but without a damn good reason, a checkuser would be declined. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, well, such is life. WP:DENY sounds pretty good to me though *Puts on a set of headphones and starts listening to music to drown out noisy abusive socks* Bmg916SpeakSign 14:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- You can too. However, his behavior is not that severe. There are not hundereds of suspected sock puppets, he is not engaging in illegal behavior. Yes, he is annoying, but without a damn good reason, a checkuser would be declined. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Can't you request one though? Bmg916SpeakSign 14:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikibreak
Thanks, but I couldn't stay away, to much vandalism going on. blah. Bmg916SpeakSign 18:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- I know the feeling! Been there before. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 18:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Unblock of User:John A. Robinson
I've undone your unblock of this user and closed the RFCN as disallow. What the community didn't think of was that this was a vandal username, and hence immediate blocking is entirely appropriate: see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Johnny the Vandal, you'll see about 5 variations of John Robinson among that vandal's past usernames. I don't think you really did anything wrong, but to me this debate shows that the whole RFCN process is a bit broken. In the future, it's probably best to not undo blocks if you don't understand why they were done, regardless of community discussion... I learned this the hard way, too. No harm here, though, the user never ended up editing.. and it might be an inocuous mistake, but Johnny the Vandal is such a major problem, it's worth a few hurt feelings. Mangojuicetalk 01:32, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I apolagize if the unblock stepped on your toes. In the future, please use more appropriate block descriptions. The ONLY reason I unblocked the user (and I checked first) was the block description was usernameblock. I apolagize if the unblock was innapropriate.-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 01:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Mangojuice wasn't the blocking admin, Misza13 was. And he only usually blocks indecent names, sockpuppets and vandal memes- not borderline cases. I am concerned that the RFCN discussion was started before Misza was asked to explain his block (and definitely that that user was unblocked before he had responded). I think we should assume that our fellow administrators are competent and familiar with username policy- especially absent any comment from them on the case in question. WjBscribe 01:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Again, I will apolagize if the unblock was innapropriate. I unblocked based on what I saw as current consensus at WP:RFCN. I'll ask in the future. Thanks for the info. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 01:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I understand your action, and I totally don't blame you: the truth is, RFCN should never be handling requests of that type anyway. Mangojuicetalk 01:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, RFCN is fucked up, but until something is done about it, i just carry out what I feel consensus is. THere was a strong early consensus to allow, and i was on my way out the door so I unblocked. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 01:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I understand your action, and I totally don't blame you: the truth is, RFCN should never be handling requests of that type anyway. Mangojuicetalk 01:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Again, I will apolagize if the unblock was innapropriate. I unblocked based on what I saw as current consensus at WP:RFCN. I'll ask in the future. Thanks for the info. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 01:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Mangojuice wasn't the blocking admin, Misza13 was. And he only usually blocks indecent names, sockpuppets and vandal memes- not borderline cases. I am concerned that the RFCN discussion was started before Misza was asked to explain his block (and definitely that that user was unblocked before he had responded). I think we should assume that our fellow administrators are competent and familiar with username policy- especially absent any comment from them on the case in question. WjBscribe 01:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Seisakusho
User:Seisakusho is a Lightbringer sock, and has been reported to AIV. MSJapan 19:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- His history did match up fairly well with the long term abuse report. I have indefbocked. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. MSJapan 19:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Admins on Wikiproject: Freemasonry
We've got User:Osgoodelawyer, but I haven't seen hide nor hair of him on the Project in months (though I believe he is active). Other than that, before we had the LTA page I generally relied on building up relationships with particular admins so that when an issue arose, they were familiar with the background. It's gotten a little easier with the LTA page, but we don't have any admins active on the project.
I won't go into gory detail, but I've got reason to believe that LB is the webmaster of FreemasonryWatch (which was blacklisted), and his problem is that he fixates on a single point in an article that suits his purpose and ignores everything else as "wrong." It wouldn't be so bad, except that what he does use he misreads. MSJapan 20:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
block-tastic
I just wish they couldn't change their IP so easily. It might be time to contact the ISP. Natalie 20:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
The Office
Yeah. Pacific Coast Highway {talk • contribs} 00:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
IP
That IP you just blocked... see also User talk:Guinnog. Might be worth bringing it to WP:OP and pre-emptively blocking indef. – Chacor 14:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- All right then, I'll list it. Cheers. – Chacor 14:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- After that vandalism? Who's he kidding? :) – Chacor 14:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both. --Guinnog 14:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
ok
I dont now if im buying that explanation but anyway i have rewritten and brought in some more info.I appreciate the work you do. You are a good admin.User:Matrix17|Matrix17]] 15:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
This page history
I was just noticing some odd edits and self-reverts in the page history by the last poster. Just wanted to bring this to your attention as I know you have had to block this user in the past. I would like to WP:AGF but things look a little odd here. --After Midnight 0001 17:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
My RfA
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind :). Darthgriz98 05:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Your weekend
I hope you enjoyed it, I was away too, but for a regular, not extended weekend. You missed a few sockpuppets while you were out, constantly reverting them with no edit summary other than deny banned user, and ignoring their outrageous comments on their talk page about how the suspected sock notice better not be a virus gave me a few laughs. Bmg916SpeakSign 19:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- I did enjoy my weekend. It was good to get away. Did the socks end up blocked? -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, but with you on extended vacation and Yamla busier in real life than usual (than I've seen anyway), it took a little longer than usual and than I would have liked, but hey, that's the breaks, I'd rather you enjoy your extended weekend. Bmg916SpeakSign 19:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Minneapolis
Hello. Does Minneapolis, Minnesota look all right to you? Please pardon this form letter that is going to about a dozen people whose user name I recognize from some Wikipedia edit (could have been recent or in the past year). I expect to close peer review by nominating Minneapolis to featured article candidate in a day or two unless other editors have more work they'd like to do. In case the links help, places to make a difference are to edit in place, comment in the peer review, comment on the talk page, support or oppose when and if it gets to featured article candidate, or work on a child article linked from the following template. -Susanlesch 23:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Chris - I just noticed on this user's page a barnstar from you saying they're a great admin. I don't seem to find mention of them as an admin; then I noticed that they added that barnstar (and others) to their own userpage. In addition, I'm worried about their username. I placed both of these concerns on their talk page, but because it involved you, I wanted to also let you know. Philippe 03:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like they removed it, sorry to have bothered you. Philippe 03:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Merging Jamestown Settlement and Jamestown, Virginia
Hey, you just told me about the 'merge proposal' tag. I just finished a rude merge of the two articles and don't know whether to add the 'merge' tag now or later. In addition, I suspect that there are two other spin-offs/merges from this material, esp. "Slavery in Virginia." I don't know what to do and I have to get back to my day job, so I'll leave it as is. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kenmayer (talk • contribs) 15:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC).
I just noticed you reverted "Jamestown Settlement", but not "Jamestown, Virginia", which means a lot of the original material is no longer in Wikipedia.--Kenmayer 16:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with putting things back they way they were. We have done a lot of work on these articles through collaboration (ie WikiProject Virginia). Thanks, Mark Vaoverland 17:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Help
I understand what you are saying about deleting comments. I just hope that since you asked me to be civil, you would do the same with MSJapan. I feel that he is in a constant state of battle with people and can't let things go. as you will see I have asked him many times to leave me alone and stop baiting me by continually posting things to purposefully irritate me. Read his posts...I'm not the only one he does this to. I simply ask for a fair playing field and no double standard from administrators. Jokerst44 18:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Airline info boxes?
Chris, since you're a member of the Airline project, are you up to speed on that project's infoboxes? A couple of articles, Southern Air and Tepper Aviation could use them...I've not the time to figure out how to do them myself at the moment. Tepper is new, adapted from another wiki, and could use a copy edit, as well. Thanks! Akradecki 21:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- I will look into it tommorow. I am nearing the end of my wiki time. My most recent endeavour is citing aircraft project articles. I got a couple of books on airplanes while on vacation last weekend and am now working on using them as sources in the many, unsourced, aircraft articles out there! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 22:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Fixed width issue again
Chris, I'm one of those who asked M Van Houten for stop fixing width of images. It seems that your opinion was not taken seriously, as seen on Pfalz D.XII article. I didn't reverted that fixed width change this time because I didn't wanted to erase his "good will" shown less than 20 minutes after your reply. Piotr Mikołajski 00:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Query
May I ask a hypothetical question?
If I were to alter an article you had created by:
changing phrasing in such a way as to create a false meaning;
inserting outright errors of fact;
and removing internal links that established relevance and notability--
How long would it take me to be banned from editing?
If, having done these things and getting away with them, I saw that the damage I had caused had been repaired, and responded by demanding that the article be deleted--
How long would it take for me to be banned from Wikipedia for stalking?
I ask from pure intellectual curiosity, as I would never stoop to such acts. Matthew Joseph Harrington 06:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- First off, there is no damage done to an article that cannot be repaired. Look under the history tab and every revision ever is stored there. Anybody can take an old version and make it the good version. You would not get banned right away, however you would get warned if you were intentionally changing meaning without providing citations. If there is an editor who is doing this let me know and I will look into it. However, from what I can see, nobody has been doing this. Please be a little more specific as to your requests. Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- MSJapan did precisely those things, and you are ignoring the vandalism. His insistence on deletion as soon as the damage was reparied is stalking. I think you should recuse yourself. Matthew Joseph Harrington 16:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Excuse me? Please show me vandalism, or stop claiming it happened. There was NO vandalism. There is nothing remotlley close to stalking in this incident, MSJapan felt the subject of the article did not meet a wikipedia requirement and he is allowed to nominate for deletion. If I had found it, i probably would have nominated it too. IF you are going to claim stalking, or vandalism, show evidence or STOP CLAIMING IT. Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- A smoking gun isn't evidence? Matthew Joseph Harrington 17:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- It sure is, however you have not shown me, or anybody else one for that matter. If you show me one, im game. Otherwise, all i see is a water pistol. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately it happens to be filled with vitriol. You win; I will abandon my hopes of seeing fairness or accuracy from Wikipedia. Matthew Joseph Harrington 23:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- For alas, i feel you are confused. Your above statement implies that i enjoy seeing unfairness and inaccuracy in this encylopedia. The funny thing is, you were the one writing an unsourced article about yourself. Hmmm, wonder whos guilty of the said claims? Thanks for your concerns though about the overall well being of this encylopedia. However, I must decline your your claims of my victory for no said victory exists. Thanks though. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't wonder at all. Neither does anyone outside your clique. Matthew Joseph Harrington 02:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- I understand that the most difficult err to see is often our own. In this situation, i find it interesting that you have been shown how you are wrong, you have been asked to provide evidence to substantiate your claims (as well as your autobiography (I mean wikipedia article)) and you have failed to provide any of it. I guess i should redact my above statement about wondering, and assert that i know who is guilty of the claims you have made. It is you! I have no problem with you or your contributions as long as they confrom with wikipedias policies (which by the way are here for good reasons, despite the popular belief that they are out to get people). If you have any questions regarding polcicies, appropriate sources, sock puppetry, vandalim or any other aspects of wikipedia that you may not fully understand, you are welcom to inquire here. Good luck. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 02:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't wonder at all. Neither does anyone outside your clique. Matthew Joseph Harrington 02:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- For alas, i feel you are confused. Your above statement implies that i enjoy seeing unfairness and inaccuracy in this encylopedia. The funny thing is, you were the one writing an unsourced article about yourself. Hmmm, wonder whos guilty of the said claims? Thanks for your concerns though about the overall well being of this encylopedia. However, I must decline your your claims of my victory for no said victory exists. Thanks though. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately it happens to be filled with vitriol. You win; I will abandon my hopes of seeing fairness or accuracy from Wikipedia. Matthew Joseph Harrington 23:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- It sure is, however you have not shown me, or anybody else one for that matter. If you show me one, im game. Otherwise, all i see is a water pistol. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- A smoking gun isn't evidence? Matthew Joseph Harrington 17:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Excuse me? Please show me vandalism, or stop claiming it happened. There was NO vandalism. There is nothing remotlley close to stalking in this incident, MSJapan felt the subject of the article did not meet a wikipedia requirement and he is allowed to nominate for deletion. If I had found it, i probably would have nominated it too. IF you are going to claim stalking, or vandalism, show evidence or STOP CLAIMING IT. Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- MSJapan did precisely those things, and you are ignoring the vandalism. His insistence on deletion as soon as the damage was reparied is stalking. I think you should recuse yourself. Matthew Joseph Harrington 16:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Reset indent: the baffling thing is that the idea of house style can hardly be unfamiliar to an author. Publishers have non-negotiable rules about the format for submitting work. Presumably Mr Harrington doesn't look at the Baen Books submission guidelines and whinge about it all being a malicious conspiracy and how he knows better than them the best way to format this work. So why that reaction when it's pointed out that Wikipedia has similar rules? Tearlach 12:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Its ok, Im having fun with him. I understand that, he understands that, he is just beung argumentative and trying to keep his autobiography. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 12:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
User page vandalized!
Cool! Now I can get one of those cool "this user page has been vandalized X times" counters! :) --Otheus 17:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Grumman
I just noticed that Grumman redirects to Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation. The later name of the company was "Grumman Aerospace Corporation". Nearly 150 articles link to Grumman, and "just over 100" link to GAEC. Would you object to moving the page to Grumman without discussion? Just asking, as I have no objection to polling on the matter. - BillCJ 17:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I would err on the side of caution and poll. I personally dont see an issue, but should I move it, and it come under scrutiny, i would probably take the fire for it. Give it a few days to poll, then i will gladly move it should that be the best outcome. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 18:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick repsonse. I'll put up the poll, and we'll see what happens. - BillCJ 18:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Policy / Rule question
Several weeks ago I asked your opinion on a style war. You recommended to "choose your battles carefully" I didn't listen to you. (Maybe I should have.)
Now I have a Wikipedia policy question. The binary prefixes style has a clause that I think violates several other rules. WP:MOSNUM#Avoiding_confusion
"The use of the new binary prefix standards in the Wikipedia is not required, but is recommended for use in all articles where binary capacities are used. ... If a contributor changes an article's usage from kilo- to kibi-, for instance, where the units are in fact binary, that change should be accepted."
The style is optional until one person says it is required. It does not matter what the first major contributor wants, or ever what all but one contributor want. The editor making the change could be just a passer by who has never seen the article before. It doesn't matter if 640K is more appropriate to the article, it must be 640 KiB. This is not a hypothetical case, it has happened dozens of times over the last three months.
The drive by editor tells the original contributors to take the case to WP:MOSNUM. Here a handful of proponents of the new binary prefix say the Manual of Style required the change and if you don't like it take it up with the drive by editor. One of the proponents gave the drive by editor a Barnstar for his work.
It appears that WP:Manual_of_Style#Disputes_over_style_issues doesn't apply to binary prefix standards or does Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules
The proponents insisted that this was the consensus and must be followed. This was not true. [1]
I went back through the talk page and found the 20 people had complained about this policy in 3 months. There is now a straw poll proposed to keep this style or remove it. Before the vote, can a style be optional until one person says it is required?
Thank You again. SWTPC6800 05:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have no ability to make the policy. It is up for interpretation. If there is a straw poll, I would let it run its course and then take action based on the outcome. That way, edit wars can be prevented, and if they are started by the other editor they can be easily blocked. Do you have a link to the straw poll? I would be interested in partcipating. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Primary language
- What is your primary language, if you dont mind my asking? -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Dutch, and Iranian, although I do speak English,
-)-(-Haggawaga (|-|) Oegawagga-)-(- 14:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
RE: Jeff Hardy
Thanks, I will continue watching the page, if s/he does it again, I will give him/her a test3, then test4 (out of AGF), then alert you for a block. Thanks! Bmg916SpeakSign 16:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- If they do it again, let me know and I will block them. I have given them a final warning. WP:BLP's are held to a higher standard. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, works for me Bmg916SpeakSign 16:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
i will continue
i will continue! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffhardyfan*17 (talk • contribs)
- Then I will block you :) . -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
RE: Screwy talk page
Yea, I noticed that. That's really weird. Bmg916SpeakSign 16:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
FA star
What is an FA star? could you explain it to me? and when do you get it? kermanshahi16:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
You get it when you make a very good article, I presume. But I also think Chris has even more to tell ya about it,
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Yes He did. The Honorable Kermanshahi 17:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Can you help me?
Chris, can you help me with the grammar in my article about Dorus Rijkers? Please? Cause with my English itself is nothing wrong; the grammar, thats' the hard thing for me. And in this article, it is claer, that those grammatical faults make the article less nice to read (though it is my intension to make it one hell of good to read, interesting article, as its original on he dutch wikipedia is). I can't help those faults B.T.W., I am half Dutch, half Iranian, and born and rased in the Netherlands. Can you please help me even more with the gramma of this artice called Dorus Rijkers?
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CSD
Can you look at Andrew Brannan please? It appears to be nothing more than a hoax, and an article about the author (whose probably living in fantasy land), all reliable pro wrestling sources have been checked, and diddly shows up on this guy. Given the user who created the article's user name is Andrew2436, and that it also fails WP:BIO and WP:A miserably, can you whack it please? Thanks. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Done-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, apparently, that's the second time the article was created and speedied. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ugh, found a redirect under Andrew brannan. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Done-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your help! Bmg916SpeakSign 17:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Joseph I. Breda jr.
Hi Chris,
I'm not sure if this is the correct way to contact you or not but it's the only way I figured out how to. First off, I want to let you know that i'm not here to ridicule your job or anything else that some of the users below have done. I just wanted to kindly ask if you could perhaps rephrase what you had said on the talk page for my own personal interests. There was a lot of work put into that equation and a couple of profesors at the university and writers for our paper had hoped that wikipedia was going to allow the article to stand. You speedily deleted it for appropriate reasons, I was unaware you weren't able to put original research articles up, especially on yourself. If you could maybe edit your side of the talk page so it doesn't seem so harsh on me that would be very kind of you and also enable me to still post the page so people at the university and others can look up the equation through wikipedia with a direct link without a talk page that makes me seem the way it does. I noticed that you like classical music and smoke a lot of weed, which completely changed my mind about how I was going to go about talking to you. You're not such a bad guy from the looks of your interests.
-Joe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JBreda24 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC).
- I believe that you have me confused with somebody else. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 18:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Chris,
It's not so much an OR as much as it is a theorem. I have one, Ramanujan has thousands, we both did the same thing. I can possibly get a profesor to put it on in which case I wouldn't be putting on an article about me. Can you please explain the absolute necessary steps I would have to take to get an article posted on Wikipedia. I've done things throughout my life that certainly make me an important and significant person however, I want this article to be about my mathematical accomplishments and the breda theorem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JBreda24 (talk • contribs).
Puppets were fun as a kid, but now...
User:Spiderman420 is another sock of User:Wrestlinglover420, found and blocked by User:Metros232. I think it's time for an indef block, no one would miss his disruptive behavior, I can almost guarantee it. Bmg916SpeakSign 23:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Puppets?
Hi Chris. Are Editorinchimp and Nigrastolemybike one and the same? I posted to the former's talk page asking them to stop adding personal attacks such as the one to Regan123's talk page, and the latter popped up on my talk page, before you had time to say "log out of one account and log in to another", asking me to stop personal attacks such as the one I had ?made? on Editorinchimp's talk page! I have maintained a cool attitude throughout, but I would be interested too know. Thanks. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 00:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I cannot tell you that. i cannot perfrom check users. I a,m currently drinking so I cannot make sound judgements on sock puppets based on commonialties in edits and styles. I will look into it monday. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 00:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry. Don't worry about it, it's not important really. Enjoy your drink. Best wishes. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 00:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Both blocked by Newyorkbrad, so forget it and thanks for your time as usual. Cheers. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 00:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Jamestown proposal to improve
There have been many comments the Jamestown, Virginia article being just too big. After giving it a lot of thought, I think we could break out a major part of it into a sub-article, perhaps entitled "History of Jamestown Settlement", essentially covering the 17th century period, ending when the capital moved to Williamsburg. As a WP admininsitrator, I have the tools to do this and preserve the talk page and history, etc., but I surely do not want to move on it unilaterally. This is an important piece of WikiProject Virginia. Can we have some comments about this approach, please?
I would appreciate replies to be posted on this page: Talk:Jamestown, Virginia Thanks, Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia Vaoverland 16:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
AndonicO's RfA
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/AndonicO is up now. Feel free to add your co-nom. Nishkid64 17:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Swing-wing
The Swing-wing page was moved via cut-and-past to Variable geometry wing. I support the renaming, but can you fix it so the history info stays with it? If you think it needs a poll to rename it, that's fine with me. Thanks again. - BillCJ 20:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Never mind. Someone else has moved it! - BillCJ 07:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry to take so long to get to it, glad somebody got it done. I was gone m ost of the weekend due to it being my brothers 21st birthday. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Resolved
More socks
User talk:Fatman420 found and blocked by User:Metros232 Bmg916SpeakSign 01:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
User talk:MachoMan420 found and blocked by User:Metros232, unblock declined by User:Yamla. Bmg916SpeakSign 01:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I will start tommorow to propose a community ban, or block indef tommorow. I dont have to do it tonight. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 02:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Do it whenever is convenient for you, I just thought you should know two more socks were discovered. I trust your judgement about where and when to go from here. Bmg916SpeakSign 02:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Done - I have extended the block on wrestlinglover420 to indef due to repeat use of sockpuppets. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Do it whenever is convenient for you, I just thought you should know two more socks were discovered. I trust your judgement about where and when to go from here. Bmg916SpeakSign 02:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the insight!
I am so new to this even though I've used Wiki for so long I never would have guess it was so full of do's and dont's.
Either way thank you for the help. And I'll be sure to ask you any future questions I have. ^_^ Sassenfrathtastic
OH so I need to have 4 ~'s not just three. Is that why the date is not there ^^? Thanks again.. I feel so untalented at this. I guess it's back to being the newbie for me. ;) Sassenfrathtastic 02:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Left an uncivil message about his/her block on his talk page threatening to block us and create sockpuppets. He/she made it quite clear that they refuse to read and follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and will continue disruptive behavior. I'm ignoring their statement, per WP:DENY and WP:RBI, it actually made me chuckle a bit to be honest. But I thought you should know anyway. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Done - I extended his block to 1 month. If you find any obvious socks, please let me know, my feet are getting cold! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- It is cold for April, so I'll definitely be sure to let you know if I find any obvious socks. I have to be honest, that statement had laughing so hard it's a good thing I'm listening to the XM Comedy Station so I had an excuse for laughing that hard. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- What I find funny is that they dont realize it is futile. We hold all the aces. We know how to revert, get them blocked and make it look like they never did anything. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- It is cold for April, so I'll definitely be sure to let you know if I find any obvious socks. I have to be honest, that statement had laughing so hard it's a good thing I'm listening to the XM Comedy Station so I had an excuse for laughing that hard. Bmg916SpeakSign 17:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Cited Sources
Please check your inferior sources before making accusations, thanks. Alias777 17:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please check the sources that cite what you make claims of. I.E., the source right after your assertions states 22, not 32. It has nothing to do with my sources. Might I also remind you to remain WP:CIVIL. Thanks a bunch! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have time to update refs when I'm making up to the second edits. I can do that a few minutes later. Alias777 17:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, you are supposed to update the sources if you change the facts. Otherwise, the sources are either false or you are false. In these situations, I will err on what a source says over what you say. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Or you could do a little detective work to find out that both the main article as well as major news sources (Fox News) says the same thing I say instead of relying on me to do all the work and just changing things based on personal assumptions. Alias777 17:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I am not the one changing the facts. It would be me making an assumption that you have a valid source, which I chose not to make as you did not provide it. If you make the change, it is your responsibility to properly cite it. As I stated before, it leaves me to either say a.) some editor I dont know is correct, or the citation listed right before it is correct. I followed the link, said 22 and reverted it. All i ask is that you properly cite any changes. Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Or you could do a little detective work to find out that both the main article as well as major news sources (Fox News) says the same thing I say instead of relying on me to do all the work and just changing things based on personal assumptions. Alias777 17:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, you are supposed to update the sources if you change the facts. Otherwise, the sources are either false or you are false. In these situations, I will err on what a source says over what you say. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have time to update refs when I'm making up to the second edits. I can do that a few minutes later. Alias777 17:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Natalie Erin.
Natalie's almost to V:100 (i.e. 100 cases of vandalism)! Not sure if the term "V:100" exists yet, but she's going to be at it soon. Acalamari 17:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Just means shes doing a great job as a wikipedian! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!
For the help on Freemasonry. :) Rarelibra 18:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Jeffersonian Model
Please review the deletion discussion for me. Should the discussion be closed and the article deleted? Please give me your thoughs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jeffersonian_Model --Stingray23464