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Well, here is the (hopefully useful) Tașcu entry… — Biruitorul ^Talk 18:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While we’re at it. Author: Dumitru Micu. — Biruitorul ^Talk 15:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many many thanks, Biruitorul. Also while we're at it: care to help me move here those that fit the description out here? Dahn (talk) 11:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Biruitorul: Do Sasu and the DBLR/DGLR have entries on Alexandru Talex? Dahn (talk) 19:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sasu no, DBLR I only have volume P/R at the moment, will check in due time. Biruitorul ^Talk 07:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some interesting bits here, for example Ralet at p. 138. Biruitorul ^Talk 09:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is Talex. Volume S/T, author Teodor Vârgolici. Biruitorul ^Talk 11:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also picked up some other stuff, more or less randomly:

Pamfil Ș (why not?), by Iordan Datcu;

Various Scena variants by Ana-Maria Brezuleanu, Alexandru Farcaș, Ion Istrate;

And two from vol. E/K: Karnabatt two three (Florin Faifer);

and Adolf de Herz (Călin Teutișan). — Biruitorul ^Talk 11:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of possible interest: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_17#Category:Romanian_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin_and_occupation. — Biruitorul ^Talk 14:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tita 1 2, author Alexandru Teodorescu, vol. S/T (like all of these)

Teodorescu-Braniște 1 2 3, Ofelia Ichim

Păstorel 1 2 3 4, Nicolae Mecu

Tafrali 1 2 3, Călin Teutișan (bonus: Talaz, by Eugen Onu) — Biruitorul ^Talk 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Big thanks! Dahn (talk) 15:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the Scînteia stuff: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]

Authors: Tudor Hăndăbuț, Ioan Milea, Magda Wächter, Nicolae Bârna (no idea who I. T. is; not in the index). Also, see Demeter Ritter von Tuschinski. — Biruitorul ^Talk 08:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As this was rescued from the archive, how about we celebrate with a couple from vol. C/D?

Deșliu: [8], [9]. Author: Nicolae Mecu

Caraion: [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]. Author: Laurențiu Hanganu. — Biruitorul ^Talk 15:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some help

Hi Dahn, hope you're well. With this message I expose myself further as a talk page stalker, hope you don't mind... Above you mentioned Arcanum, a great resource that I am surprised I had never heard about before. I've found there many newspapers talking about marginal figures, which probably duplicates the amount of sources about them that I thought existed. One such figure is George Ceara (or Ceară), an Aromanian poet. He seems to be related to a modern Aromanian poet, Ilie A. Ceara (or Ceară, likewise). I had planned writing a page for George for months but couldn't find any source explaining their relation. Only once I found a book snippet which I dismissed anyway because I think I deemed it to be inappropriate (maybe it was a primary source, I don't remember anymore) believing I could find something better, but I haven't been able to. Could you help me out? I see both have many results in Arcanum, does any explain the relation between the two? Regards, Super Ψ Dro 12:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Super, and thanks for stalking me, as well as for all the wonderful work you're putting in! This piece by Emil Lazăr-Dejeanul has the following: De reţinut este şi faptul că unul dintre cei 7 fraţi şi o soră a tatălui lui Ilie Ceară a făcut Facultatea de Litere din Bucureşti şi a ajuns profesor, atât în şcolile din România, cât şi în Grecia de Nord, dar şi un cunoscut poet de expresie română şi aromână cu numele George Ceară. Nepotul acestuia, scriitorul Ilie Ceară, încă de la vârsta de 5 ani a ajuns orfan de tată, orfan şi de mamă. (Citation Emil Lazăr-Dejeanul, "Scriitorul aromân Ilie Ceară", in Astra Dejeană, Vol. VII, Issues 3–4, December 2000, p. 14). Dahn (talk) 21:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for the help! Best, Super Ψ Dro 21:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way Dahn, what pages does "Scriitorul aromân Ilie Ceară" cover in the magazine? Just for the sake of exact citing. Super Ψ Dro 19:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just page 14. Dahn (talk) 21:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ilie Purcaru

On 28 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ilie Purcaru, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ilie Purcaru, as a contributor to Nicolae Ceaușescu's cult of personality, claimed that a young Ceaușescu had walked into the woods of Scornicești without fearing their wolves? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ilie Purcaru. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ilie Purcaru), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:18th-century Wallachian poets has been nominated for splitting

Category:18th-century Wallachian poets has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Alexandru Talex

On 15 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alexandru Talex, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alexandru Talex was described as "the gentlest" member of a Romanian far-right organization? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alexandru Talex. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alexandru Talex), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you for another good one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

József Fischer

Hello! I created an article about József Fischer, a prominent leader of the Jewish Party (Romania). If you would like to expand, please feel free to do that, since I found only incomplete information about his political involvement in Romania. Norden1990 (talk) 20:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Norden1990: A general advice, if I may: the sources I used in writing the Jewish Party article have more in-depth coverage about the Fischers than the prose required there. I would suggest that, instead of repeating the content you have found in the article, you have a fresh look at the sources cited which you can check yourself (Frojimovics et al, presumably), and complete the research with detail that should not go into the party article, but needs to appear in a biography. Otherwise, the article just looks like a transplant of info. Dahn (talk) 13:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I do not speak nor write Romanian, and my knowledge of the Romanian political system between the two world wars is extremely limited. The person was interesting to me because of his activities in Hungary during the Holocaust. --Norden1990 (talk) 09:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AN

When a discussion is closed, you should not edit it. By continuing the discussion to prove some point you have simply further escalated the issue. As I mentioned in the close, there are other more appropriate venues to resolve your disagreement, continued discussion at WP:AN risks sanctions against you both if you can't disengage. Polyamorph (talk) 08:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Polyamorph: I was simply editing in my response exactly while the discussion was being closed -- I probably entered the editing window exactly after your closure, not noticing that it had been closed in that 9-minute interval. When I noticed that it had been closed, I had already written in my answers, and I frankly have no idea what the proper procedure is for that situation. You can of course remove my answers and re-close, but I would kindly encourage you to give me the benefit of the doubt. Dahn (talk) 13:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ștefan Tita

On 5 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ștefan Tita, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that educational writer Ștefan Tita gave Romanian students impractical advice on mending damaged bark with bandages of dirt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ștefan Tita. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ștefan Tita), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding citations

Hi. When you're adding entries to articles like 2011 in literature, it's mandatory to include an inline citation. I've just added one for you but it would be really helpful if you could remember to do so in future. I'm aware that many of the older pages have some citations missing, because this rule didn't always exist, but if we can at least keep the more recent years fully referenced, it will improve matters. Deb (talk) 08:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deb: Has it dawned on anyone so far that basic biographical facts are referenced (or should be referenced) in the articles themselves (you can easily pick them up from there, in all articles I contribute), and that adding a string of redundant citations needlessly duplicates the text? This is why I don't consider this mandatory, and would rather not have myself bound by it. I will of course continue to cite all facts I introduce in other sections of those pages, as I have always in the past. Dahn (talk) 10:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has been much discussed and the decision was made in 2018. It's fine not to consider yourself bound by it, but be aware that your contributions can be removed, by anyone, at any time, if you don't include the citation. Deb (talk) 10:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would imagine it absurd to remove an "uncited" fact that is perfectly cited in the article, but yeah, okay. On the other hand, there is nothing absolutely prevenring anyone from removing cited facts as well, particularlt on pages that are so evidently unpatrolled, and completely chaotic in content. I'll take my chances. Dahn (talk) 11:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also: can we talk about what is mandatory in citations when you guys agree to at least consistently enforce a single citation format over all such pages, or at the very least over one page? Dahn (talk) 10:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By "you guys", I'm assuming you mean the Wikipedia community, which includes you. It's open to you to raise the matter any time you choose. Deb (talk) 11:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, just the guys who look after those particular pages. I have limited time to spend of such chores, but surely now that you are aware of this issue, and have noticed the anomaly (as for instance in the clash of styles between the citations you have added regarding Neagu, and the rest of the citations on that very page), you might start whatever procedure is required to fix it. Dahn (talk) 11:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody "looks after" pages - everyone is expected to. If you don't have time, you can drop out of the project without recrimination. Deb (talk) 11:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You mean I should stop contributing to wikipedia because I didn't add citations to basic facts on those pages? If so, permit me to inform you that you are out of line. And yes: there are users who take a constant interest in the "in literature" pages, to which I only have a passing interest. Now: are we just about done here? Dahn (talk) 11:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you should stop contributing to wikipedia because you don't add citations to basic facts. WP:V is non-negotiable. The WP:BURDEN to provide citations is on you if you edit. If you don't add citations, you can and should be blocked from editing. You've been around far too long not to understand this. And yes, we are done here. Toddst1 (talk) 17:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::Nobody "looks after" pages - everyone is expected to. If you don't have time, you can drop out of the project without recrimination. [[User:Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]) 11:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 :::::You mean I should stop contributing to wikipedia because I didn't add citations to basic facts on those pages? If so, permit me to inform you that you are out of line. And yes: there are users who take a constant interest in the "in literature" pages, to which I only have a passing interest. Now: are we just about done here? [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] ([[User talk:Dahn#top|talk]]) 11:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
-:::::::Yes, you should stop contributing to wikipedia because you don't add citations to basic facts.  [[WP:V]] is non-negotiable. The [[WP:BURDEN]] to provide citations is on you if you edit.  If you don't add citations, you can and should be blocked from editing.  And yes, we are done here.  [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 17:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
+:::::::Yes, you should stop contributing to wikipedia because you don't add citations to basic facts.  [[WP:V]] is non-negotiable. The [[WP:BURDEN]] to provide citations is on you if you edit.  If you don't add citations, you can and should be blocked from editing. You've been around far too long not to understand this.  And yes, we are done here.  [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 17:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)