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::Obvious - yes! Vandal - no!!! I think the subtle vandals cause far more trouble. Their the ones who forget to turn their brains on. --[[Special:Contributions/91.106.28.24|91.106.28.24]] ([[User talk:91.106.28.24|talk]]) 13:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Obvious - yes! Vandal - no!!! I think the subtle vandals cause far more trouble. Their the ones who forget to turn their brains on. --[[Special:Contributions/91.106.28.24|91.106.28.24]] ([[User talk:91.106.28.24|talk]]) 13:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::You may feel that way, but Wikipedia defines [[WP:VANDAL|vandalism]] as such: ''Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.'' Your edit certainly falls into that category. While subtle vandals are certainly a bigger problem, that does not excuse your edits. Please also read the [[WP:POINT]] article.-<span id="Lilac Soul" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:Lilac Soul|Lilac Soul]] <sup>([[User talk:Lilac Soul|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Lilac Soul|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:Lilac Soul}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span></sup> 13:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::You may feel that way, but Wikipedia defines [[WP:VANDAL|vandalism]] as such: ''Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.'' Your edit certainly falls into that category. While subtle vandals are certainly a bigger problem, that does not excuse your edits. Please also read the [[WP:POINT]] article.-<span id="Lilac Soul" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:Lilac Soul|Lilac Soul]] <sup>([[User talk:Lilac Soul|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Lilac Soul|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:Lilac Soul}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span></sup> 13:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Which do you believe I added? Why is adding obvious nonsense vandalism, but reverting to something you freely admit to not understanding, and which has no source, not vandalism? (BTW Davis hasn't even resigned yet.)--[[Special:Contributions/91.106.28.24|91.106.28.24]] ([[User talk:91.106.28.24|talk]]) 00:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion notification of Ben Macleod

Hi Lilac Soul. You really only should put the speedy deletion warning on the page of the article's creator, not everyone else who's edited. Also, you will not that I am the admin who declined the speedy deletion. Thanks for your help, but just a friendly bit of advice! Pedro :  Chat  13:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your reply, I will make sure only to notify the original creator, as that certainly makes sense. Cheers! Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 15:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AIV

You reported 86.134.94.232 (talk · contribs) to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. This user has only one edit—about a half hour old—and had not been warned. See the instructions at WP:AIV for more information. —EncMstr 09:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sorry about that - however, as a suspected sockpuppet, I figured the warnings could be dispensed with since the other IPs used had been warned already. But you are, of course, correct that the user wasn't active now, so my report was probably redundant after all. Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 09:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No sweat. Perhaps you might open a case at WP:SSP? —EncMstr 09:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not now, I think, since the vandal appears to no longer be active, but thanks for the pointer; now I know the proper place to direct these things. Cheers! Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 09:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Yeah, absolutely! I love it when people copy me, it makes me feel special :D I even get a kick out of it when I see people use the same abbreviations in their edit summaries XD And your page looks very nice, if I do say so :-P delldot talk 18:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, whoops, now I see your notice at the top of the page. Don't see the point in taking it off now, though, so I'll just leave this here. Sorry. delldot talk 18:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Region Hovedstadens Psykiatri

Updated DYK query On 25 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Region Hovedstadens Psykiatri, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 19:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query On February 28, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article church of Holmen, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well done Lilac Soul. Keep it up, we don't get many Danish DYKs around here. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 06:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I cannot take too much credit for the church of Holmen article though. I translated it from the Danish Wikipedia, and shortened it heavily as the Danish article contained way too much irrelevant information. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 09:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work with Church of Holmen, has been added to Portal:Norway. Cirt (talk) 00:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Attached?

Hi,

Thank you for the recent edit to the page on PSM Rutter.

If you are into 'attachment theory' I would appreciate you taking a look at the latest discussions on,

   Attachment measures
   Attachment in children

I have suggested the page called Human bonding should be scrapped and would welcome your opinion.

kip KingsleyMiller (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the heads-up. However, I only edited the article to introduce a wikilink to a recently created article - while attachment theory certainly sounds interesting (though I think I know relatively little of it), I don't think I'll have much constructive input to add to the discussions. But thanks! -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 18:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for this reply

KingsleyMiller (talk) 23:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comment there.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

suncoast

every thing i have edited is correct I worked for the company did you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.252.7.2 (talk) 15:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Completely irrelevant that you worked there. At best, your edits constitute original research, which is disallowed on Wikipedia. Your additions are also defamatory, with content like "they screw you over", which does not, as it should, adhere to neutral point of view. All in all, your edits constitute vandalism. While your first edits could be excused on grounds of you not knowing the rules, you continuing to post this after having been warned is a clear case of vandalism. If you disagree with me, please take it up with an administrator, but I recommend you read up on Wikipedia policy first. Assuming that you do have good faith, however, I wish you happy editing after you have familiarised yourself with the Wikipedia "house rules". -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 16:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Impact factors

Since this is a bit off topic for AR discussion, can you tell me how to check an impact factor of a specific journal? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On the ISI Web of Knowledge website. However, it requires a log-on, which I doubt is free. I have access through my institution. However, most journals themselves state their impact factor on their website, usually on the main page or on the "for authors" or "about the journal" page. If you don't have access to ISI Web of Knowledge, and there's a specific journal's impact factor you cannot find on the journal's own website, feel free to ask me here and I'll look it up for you. Of course, asking me about too many of them might exhaust me :-) -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 07:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

quotes in footnotes

I restored the quotes you deleted from the footnotes to Meeker's Hardware because they make the article more verifiable. Not everyone will always be able to pull up the Times article in question; having quotes in notes preserves that verifiability and offers an additional guarantee against editors making up credible-looking sources or citing actual sources that contain none of the information (this has happened).

I was also planning to restore the geolinks on the grounds that information in an infobox is usually also linked when it is given in the article text; however it seems that the NRHP infobox has been revised again so as to put that information in the top as well. Daniel Case (talk) 14:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, personally, I disagree. Having the quotes does not add to verifiability. Those not accessing the article will just have to take your word that the quote is actually in the article. Since most editors will believe you anyway, it seems superfluous to me. I think the quote thing is more appropriate when you have to show that you're not taking things out of context, which is hardly relevant in this instance. But I don't feel strongly about it and there's certainly nothing wrong about having it in the article, so we'll just let it stay. Thanks for your work on the article, it looks like a good one. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 19:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i.e. vs. e.g.

I am so bad about that (e.g., Tata Nano). Thanks for the reminder: i.e.: in other words. e.g.: for example.842U (talk) 13:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In my experience, many native English speakers are, so don't feel bad at all. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count)

RfC

I've started drafting a user conduct RfC that you might be interested in here. There's a lot of evidence to locate, sift through and present, so I think it will take awhile to get it put together. If you'd like to participate, please feel free to do so. Cla68 (talk) 06:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I think I'll pass. Looks mostly to me like its for people who have had some negative experiences with a certain user with administrative privileges, and not falling in that category myself, I think it's better if I stay out of it. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count)

Edit to article 'Pooka'

Heya! Recently contributed some information to the above article's 'popular culture' section - and was wondering why it counted as vandalism? This way I can avoid such problems in future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.158.183 (talk) 10:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at your edits again, and it would definitely seem that I was too quick reverting your contributions. I apologise very much and have reverted back to your version. I don't know why I originally reverted your edits - infact, I don't even recall doing so. Again, my deep apologies. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 20:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, no need to apologise. I'm glad to have had my contribution kept, and even more that I wasn't doing something silly. Thanks for the reversion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.161.185 (talk) 18:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Cavalli Biography

Hello, I edit the biography of Roberto Cavalli yesterday, in Italian and English, and i see that there is and advice on the head of the page.I found your name in the history...

  • It does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve it by citing reliable sources. Tagged since April 2008.
now it does
  • It reads like an advertisement and needs to be rewritten from a neutral point of view. Tagged since April 2008.
I don't think it would be rewritten.This is the exact traslantion of the italian version.
  • It may need to be wikified to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.Tagged since April 2008.
  • It may require general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.Tagged since April 2008.
this is the first article that I write, maybe i need some help in this...i did not understand exactly what i have to do (sorry)

the list of Boutiques is not complete like this, there's no address and there's no telephone number.I don't understand if it is really useful...

What i have to do?


Bye Marco

pisa_p

Reply: Well, I did not tag the article with any of those, so I won't take a stand on those. However, the use of a list with capital letters, and not in English, and with no description of what is meant, is odd. Wikipedia is not supposed to used as a directory for finding stores in a given brand. It would be better to have just a normal sentence with examples of where he has stores, and have those cities formatted properly, i.e. in lower case but capitalized. As for address and phone numbers, Wikipedia does not include these as they are not encyclopedic and would only serve the purpose of advertising the company. If a person, after reading the article, wishes to find or call a store, that person can look at the official website, which the article has (or at least should have). I hope this answers your questions satisfactorily. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 09:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not tag your reverts of content as minor

Lilac Soul, tagging an edit as [minor] is a privilege reserved for registered users so that it is less likely to be abused as you did [here]. Reverting an editor's correction to an article in not properly tagged as minor. I hope this is okay with you. Doright (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TWINKLE apparently automatically marks those edits as minor. That is certainly not correct, I agree with you completely. I'll see if there's some setting I can tweak or something to fix this. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 21:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Danish Act of Succession referendum

I am not trying to get into an edit war. I swear that in English the subjunctive mood should be used for "if" situations. For example, "if wishes were horses, we would all eat steak" rather than "if wishes are horses, we all eat steak". For more on the subjunctive, see Subjunctive mood#the subjunctive in English. -Rrius (talk) 21:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, he's right. —Nightstallion 13:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I wasn't trying to do edit warring. I thought that my second attempt was better, but I see that it still used wrong grammar. Well, it's nice to learn something new, and I always wondered what was up with sentences like "I demand that he go to..." -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 14:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Referendums

Hi! Short question: Are there any developments and/or details yet on the two referendums? Any news yet about what exactly will be on the ballot for the opt-out referendum? Thanks! —Nightstallion 13:25, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing so far. All we have so far is speculation that it could happen this fall, and that it doesn't seem very likely to include a Euro referendum. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 15:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
nods Yeah, that's what I had heard -- that he'll want to get some success (like getting rid of the defence or citizenship opt-out, or reducing the immigration opt-out to the opt-in variant which the UK and Ireland gain under the Lisbon Treaty) and that asking for the euro right now would be too risky. Will the Succession Act referendum likely be held at the same time, to ensure the necessary turnout for it? —Nightstallion 16:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would consider it very likely that the Succession Act referendum will be held along with some other referendum or election to ensure voter turnout. Could be the opt out referenda, could be the municipal elections or European Parliament elections coming up in 2009. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 14:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
nods Thanks! —Nightstallion 11:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I assume the discussions are still ongoing without any definite results so far? —Nightstallion 21:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely correct, still nothing official. One of the government parties' members of parliament started talking about this fall, but in the name of avoiding recentism and undue weight problems, we probably shouldn't update the articles until there's official word from the prime minister. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 10:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
nods Okay, thanks. BTW, you didn't reply in the discussion on what to do in case there will be more than one referendum...? —Nightstallion 11:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lickig Riverside

I hope you didn't think I was being rude when I reverted your recent edit. The district was notable, as its on the National Register. I meant to explain that, but my computer hiccup and saved the edit before I was finished explaining.--Bedford 05:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think you were rude at all, and good job on both of those articles! -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 06:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Offensive content

I have no idea how this works, but there is some offensive content on this page. It occurs right after the table of contents jump. i don't know how to edit yet, but I do know this should be taken down.

24.60.23.202 (talk) 04:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what offensive content (nor which page) you are talking about? -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 19:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User page

Hey Lilac Soul.I love your user page,it is so cool!As I have joined Wikipedia only last week could you please tell me how to make it like yours?But dont worry I wont copy it and make it just like yours!!--Sitharasbabu (talk) 06:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)Sitharasbabu/11:45--Sitharasbabu (talk) 06:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Feel very free to just click "Edit this page" on my user page, and then copy the source code from there and onto your own userpage. Then you can start editing away. It is fairly straight forward. Most places, you can probably keep my formatting and just substitute with your own links and text; in some places, you may wish to change the actual layout. As you'll notice, markup on Wikipedia is very similar (or even identical) to HTML, so if you have some familiarity with that, you should have no problems. Other than that, well, it's hard to give you any advice. I suggest you copy-paste my sourcecode and then start editing to your heart's desire. And then you are of course very free to ask me if you run into specific problems, and I'll try to help you. I, however, originally copied the layout from someone else, so I won't be taking credit for it. Oh, one final thing, you may want to do all the editing on a non-visible place, so that people coming to your talkpage don't see a lot of my stuff while you're editing. You can easily create subpages for this, e.g. a subpage to your userpage titled User:Sitharasbabu/Sandbox. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 10:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CAP Wikipedia article

Hi Lilac Soul, I am working with the Cape Breton County CAP and have been asked to edit the article to reflect the names, addresses and telephones of the CAP locations. Is there a better way to structure the site list than the one I did previously? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.94.18 (talk) 14:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are a couple of points to address there. First of all, in the interest of neutrality, Wikipedia actually discourages you to start and contribute to articles about companies you work for. You cannot be neutral in your position, so you should probably steer clear of working on the article altogether. However, if you do continue to work on the article, try to be neutral and note that Wikipedia is not supposed to contain phone-numbers and addresses in the way you are putting them in the article.-Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 07:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Lilac Soul/cites.js

User:Lilac Soul/cites.js, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Lilac Soul/cites.js and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Lilac Soul/cites.js during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 08:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Lilac Soul/tagsnew.js

User:Lilac Soul/tagsnew.js, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Lilac Soul/tagsnew.js and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Lilac Soul/tagsnew.js during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 08:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Radio article

Hi Lilac,

I was making some minor adjustments to the article and suddenly it said that it was marked for deletion. We're currently working on the content of the article and it should be completed soon.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swindonmatt (talkcontribs) 20:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, in that case you may want to place the {{underconstruction}} template on the article. Just be sure to remove it if you stop working on the article, even for a few hours, so others can work on it as well. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 20:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lilac, Can I remove the {db-bio} and {hangon} tags? Thanks, Matt

I'll do it so you don't get into trouble for it. You should still explain how you think it is notable on the talkpage, as someone other than me may come by with the same objection. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 20:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lilac, What would you suggest I write? Just that I am working on the page etc.? Thanks a lot, Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swindonmatt (talkcontribs) 20:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, sure, but it would be great if you had a look at the WP:NOTABILITY and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) pages and then reflect, on the article's talk page, on whether or not the radio station in question fullfills the criteria. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 20:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Lilac, Just out of interest, what happens if the article isn't notable? Thanks, Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swindonmatt (talkcontribs) 20:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it isn't notable, it will eventually get deleted. If notability is possible, but not established, it will probably get tagged for a while. If notability is debatable, a discussion on whether or not the article should be deleted will probably get started. This is why I would recommend that you consider whether or not it is notable before you do a whole lot of work on it :-) Oh, and also, please remember to sign your posts by typing ~~~~ in the end of them. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 20:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lilac, I cant write anything in the discussion for the artice. Do you know why? Thanks Swindonmatt (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You certainly should be able to. Try again. Don't you get the "edit" tab? -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 05:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Winchester Rifle

you said me that i don't have to put advertising on the page or some external link to my own web site. this is correct. but i've only put some information of a new factory that make this product like "rossi" or "norinco" that is already in the page. so i don't see the problem!!! and the external link is to the factory not to my own website!!!! sorry for my bad enghlish but i'm italian!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by VirginiaJappaWeat (talkcontribs) 09:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IPs on AIV

I think you deleted the report before they (or you) got a chance to read my comment. The WHOIS information for the two IPs says that they are editing from the same location. See 1 and 2. I would recommend reverting yourself. Cheers, The Hybrid 12:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did not see your reply there, I have reverted myself as you suggested. Thanks.-Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 13:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem :). Good catch, BTW. Cheers, The Hybrid 13:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

David Davis

Sorry Lilac Soul, but the Conservatives have not indicated that Davis will be their candidate. Until they do, I believe my revision should stand.--91.106.28.24 (talk) 12:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps not, but you continue to assign him to "Unofficial Monster Raving Loony Party", which is an obvious piece of vandalism. Please stop doing that, by the way!-Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 13:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious - yes! Vandal - no!!! I think the subtle vandals cause far more trouble. Their the ones who forget to turn their brains on. --91.106.28.24 (talk) 13:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You may feel that way, but Wikipedia defines vandalism as such: Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles. Your edit certainly falls into that category. While subtle vandals are certainly a bigger problem, that does not excuse your edits. Please also read the WP:POINT article.-Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 13:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Which do you believe I added? Why is adding obvious nonsense vandalism, but reverting to something you freely admit to not understanding, and which has no source, not vandalism? (BTW Davis hasn't even resigned yet.)--91.106.28.24 (talk) 00:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]