User talk:Sgroupace

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Speedy tags and notifying creators

When you tag an article for speedy deletion, it is a good idea to notify the article's creator that you have done so. There is a series of templated messages listed at Category:CSD warning templates that you can leave on the creator's talk page, such as {{subst:nn-warn|Schwarzys|header=1}} ~~~~, and you can automate this process by using Wikipedia:Twinkle. --Eastmain (talk) 04:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

1. There is a bot to do the job - eg. this.
2. I usually check the user's contributions. If they have only one or two contributions, I take the view that they should be using their watchlist.

But I might give Twinkle or AWB a go. - Sgroupace (talk) 09:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The bot is currently very unreliable. DGG (talk) 17:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Gary Morgenstern, {{confusing}}, So what on earth is a "first and ten mark"

This, like "first down", is a term from American football. --Eastmain (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

• Instead of telling me it might have been more useful to fix the article. But I have done it for you. - Sgroupace (talk) 16:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Mingma Sherpa

Easy on the trigger finger there. If you'd checked the article history for Mingma Sherpa, you'd have seen that I had just removed a CSD tag (the article did assert the notability of the subject; it simply didn't cite it), and was editing it to add references. Tlesher (talk) 00:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Paige Bell

The reason I nominated Paige Bell for AFD instead of Speedy is the policies here (and my past experience) make it clear that AFD is the right venue. They *do claim notability* in the article. If there was NO claim of notability, then I would have speedy deleted it. If they make a claim, then it should be to afd, per policy. It isn't like there is a reason to rush or disallow comments. Any good admin would kick it out of speedy and tell you to go afd. PHARMBOY (TALK) 01:32, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• I see no assertion of notability. A good admin would take a look at her contribs and User talk page and would: zap it, salt it and block the author! Let's see what happens. Providing Eastmain does not do one of their rescue jobs! - Sgroupace (talk) 01:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  • In the first paragraph, they claim she was in the Bratz movie, specifically Paige is known for playing one of the kids in the food fight in Bratz the movie. That is a claim of notability, per policy. I don't make the policies, I just follow them. Suggesting block and salting is just juvenile for something this petty. PHARMBOY (TALK) 02:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

young contributors

I appreciate your comment on CIreland's talk page, and I left a comment there about how I handle these, that you too may find helpful. DGG (talk) 17:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Empire Academy

Hi!

I've just declined your request for Empire Academy to be speedily deleted, because articles about schools are not eligible for speedy deletion. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 21:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Patrol

If you mark something as patrolled, and it's crap... take the time to also mark it for deletion. Otherwise it won't get dealt with. DS (talk) 19:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

• Can you give me even one instance please? - Sgroupace (talk) 02:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

You marked "Ninja Dad" as patrolled, and then a day later someone AfD'd it. You did contribute to the AfD, mind you, and it was (rightly) deleted as crap. But it would have gotten done a little quicker - and it wouldn't have gotten brought up on the administrators' noticeboard as a purported example of what's wrong with the patrol function. DS (talk) 15:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's the log - and you'll note that you weren't the one who started the AfD. DS (talk) 15:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

• Whaddya mean "a day later"? The AfD was raised two minutes after I had marked the article patrolled. In any case, the article had been tagged {{hoax}} which indicated that it had been checked by a human, placed into a "for attention" category and was presumably being watched by the person who had applied the hoax tag. - Sgroupace (talk) 21:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Bitching was done about the utility, or lack thereof, of patrolling. Your action on "Ninja Dad" was dragged up as an example of Patrolling Gone Bad. It was suggested that you be warned to be more careful. You have thus been warned to be more careful. I don't think we need to waste more time on this particular subject, do you? DS (talk) 23:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Also - whoops, I misread the log; you're right on the "two minutes later" thing. DS (talk) 23:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

You've been mentioned at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests

Doesn't that sound scary? Here is the pointer: Wikipedia:Ear#PHPulse. EdJohnston (talk) 21:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

• Why scary? "100% consistent with policy" is rather smug-making. - Sgroupace (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

A language with out syntax

Thanks for the input. But ,as I being a person who has tried the language, I can tell that there can be such type of a language . In fact the mechanism is quite simple. It uses natural language processing to process the input text and converts into a specific syntax (through dictionary modes , grammatical operations etc) and later executes it. I hope you may also tried AIML for chatter bots. And regarding popularity, I know that it is quite popular in the FOSS world (at least in India) Karthika.kerala (talk) 20:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Christian Fuerneisen

In regard to this article, please don't use "nn-autobio" as a deletion reason, because "nn" is an abbreviation which new users might not recognize. When you find any other non-notable autobiographies, please tag them with {{db-bio}} instead, because then the reason for deletion will be spelled out in full. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Walburn Family

This is not advertisment for products it is reference material for old encryption devices not used much anymore.