User talk:Raul654

For your tireless work in making Wikipedia better, for keeping Template:Feature up-to-date, for doing the grunt work of cleaning up Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, for mediating in disputes, for adding lots of really nice pictures, and for still finding the time to work on articles! In a few months you've already become a highly valued member of the community. Stay with us and don't burn out, please. --Eloquence Apr 10, 2004

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FAC consult

Raul, can you glance at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1964 Gabon coup d'état, including the page before the restart, where 1b questions went unanswered? If I'm interpreting correctly, I'm inclined towards closing; I want to doublecheck that with you. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Raul, after several editors struck their Support, I went ahead and closed this one (GimmeBot hasn't been thru yet). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Please unblock this address range

72.58.0.0 I got a message that you had blocked this address range, because of some malicious user, but this is part of sprint's dynamic address pool, so many non-malicious wikipedia users accessing it from sprint (like me) can randomly get blocked. Plus, assuming he doesn't have a static address from sprint, it will only block him part of the time. Thanks Wmdiem (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

VNQDD

Is there any chance you could just switch it to a weekday so that I can have pleasure of watching it on the front page :)?? (NEver around on weekends) YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

(Done a while back). Raul654 (talk) 20:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

0.7

Mark, if you get a chance, please skim WT:MOS#TLDR, which is about Version 0.7, aimed at recent questions from style people. (I don't think you and I have chatted before; hiya. I'm generally regarded as a FAC person and style person myself, but I'm giving 100% of my time starting now to sweeps for 0.7 until it's out the door, unless something derails it.) In particular, I'd love to talk more with you some time about ComCom's view, and I'll be talking with Tim Bartel too. The No. 1 concern about Version 0.7 among my wikicolleagues is that it might harm Wikipedia's image. My feeling is that that's ComCom's area of expertise and concern, and that having ComCom weigh in on this will go a long way towards defining the problem and reducing anxieties. (Feel free to respond here or anywhere, or not at all.) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 13:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:TFA/R

I can't help but be drawn to this page as a sociologial experiment. Five of the current five requests have disputed points; I've started a discussion here. Guidance on how to apply "similar" wrt main page representation might help; I've noticed that editors disputing points seem to be applying a tighter definition of "Similar" articles not appearing subsequently on the mainpage than you seem to apply in choosing the TFAs. Perhaps you can help cut through the definition to something less "disputable". SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Firebox on a steam train

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, Image:Firebox on a steam train.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! MER-C 04:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Cats needed

Template:Cats needed has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. NE2 12:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

An outcome of civil pov pushing

A sad outcome as the result of pov pushing culminating in this collection of ludicrous allegations. . . dave souza, talk 15:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Obama at FAR again

• Wikipedia:Featured article review/Barack Obama, Joelr31 left a message somewhere recently that he's going to be out for a while, and Marskell will likely log on later. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:TFA

Sorry if this is disallowed on Wikipedia but I was wondering if you don't put any featured articles related to Sports and recreation as I want to nominate the article, Trevor Linden for December 17, 2008. I want to nominate him on that date because that is when his jersey number, #16, is retired. Thanks and happy editing. -- K. Annoyomous24_[c] 04:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Respectfully, that should probably be discussed over at WT:TFAR . I am aware of at least one editor who is planning to nominate one or two sports article between now and then. I suggest you discuss over there.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

AN/I

Hi Raul, I wanted to apologise, It seems I was a bit out of line and harsh with my remark at ANI based on common gossip. I've withdrawn my remark. Sorry   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 17:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Battle of the Bulge FAR opened

Hey, you apparently have 280 edits in the Battle of the Bulge article, which has just been placed through a featured article review. Your input, if any, would be quite welcomed! Thank you. JonCatalán^(Talk) 20:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand

Most of the account's entire history is incivility in edit summaries, and posts, combined with POV pushing.

Indef blocking seemed rather approriate at the very least, and a ban, would seem rather appropriate as well.

(Normally, I'd agree with AGK's points, but the editing gaps would seem to indicate this being a SPA, or at least a situation of socking.)

Am I missing something here? - jc37 00:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Raulbot and sound files from http://hebb.mit.edu/FreeMusic/

I don't suppose you still have any of the documentation from these? Documentation requirements have been raised substantially, but the site no longer exists, meaning that I've been trying to contact the heads of the various MIT groups so that they could be used at featured sounds - with little success (Professor Cutter did try and help, but the people he forwarded my message on to never replied as of yet).

If you can help, please do =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The site said in big lettering that all the files were CC-BY(-SA?) licensed. Check the Wayback machine - it contains a copy of the pages (but not the files) as they existed at the time. Raul654 (talk) 02:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

ANI

Carcharoth has made a few suggestion in regards to my remark on ANI, I think its better late than never, I give you permission to remove my remark and your reply of course if you wish as it seems that this may be better than striking it out. Again, I stress that I am sorry.   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 13:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Question about Weinberg reference

Hi there. You were the editor behind the FA for Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima. I believe you added the reference for [2] Weinberg, Gerhard L. A World At Arms, pg 866–868. Which edition is this from (year, etc)? [1] Thanks. — ERcheck (talk) 00:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

1999 paperback edition. ISBN 0521558794 Raul654 (talk) 00:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

TFA 23 September

I was wondering if you would comment on the discussion at the main page. 199.91.34.33 (talk) 19:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. Raul654 (talk) 20:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikis Take Manhattan

Wikis Take Manhattan Next: Saturday September 27

WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. The event is based on last year's Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, and has evolved to include StreetsWiki this year as well.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT

• Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
• Commons:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Gallery (our cool gallery)

WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more!

WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, September 27th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration.

WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's West Village office. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:

• Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project

349 W. 12th St. #3

Between Greenwich & Washington Streets

By the 14th St./8th Ave. ACE/L stop

FOR UPDATES

Check out:

• Wikis Take Manhattan main website

This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency.

Thanks,

Pharos

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Usurp (courtesy notice)

I have resubmitted the Usurp minus your comment per the message behind Fruit of the poisonous tree. Please do not make me do it again. Thanks   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 00:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

1. You clearly do not understand the legal doctrine you are citing, in that there was no such wrongful search here
2. You clearly do not understand the applicability of such legal doctrine to wikipedia, in that it has none
3. You clearly do not understand how usurpation work. They are courtesy we extend to users in good standing, of which you are not one.
4. I have restored my comment there, and if you re-remove it, I will block you. Raul654 (talk) 01:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• If I remove (withdraw and re-list) my request, that is my choice and my right as a user (its my request).
• I would advise extreme caution in blocking me considering the nature of our recent run-in as it would be ill advised by any admin for obvious reasons.
• Judging by the ammount of Usurps you do and the remark above, you may have forgotton how it works. Per userp page you "we prefer only to grant requests from reasonably well-established users". Good standing is not mentioned and well established.......well i think im well established.
• I know the FOTPT does not apply here, but its message is what i was pointing out. that being since you are "the poisonous tree" (biased) any "fruit" (decision in regards to me) you grow will also be "poisonous" (biased). I hope this puts it into context.

  «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 02:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Your own wiki-lawyering aside, yes, being a member in good standing is a requirement to be renamed. It is a courtesy, not a right, and it is a courtesy you are most certainly not deserving of.

Two admins have already commented on ANI that removing my denial a second time would be blockable, and not a single one has spoken up in your defense on that point. You do not have a right to remove and resubmit requests (in effect removing commentary you don't like) - that is gaming the system, and it is blockable.

The fact that you went out of your way to pick a fight with "an influential member of the community" (your own words) does not make my commentary about you or your behavior fruit of the poisoned tree. In fact, it is evidence of nothing but your own stupidity. Stupidity is not a defense of any kind. You must now live with the consequences of those ill-considered actions. Raul654 (talk) 02:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Or make a new account and start again. Also, where is it written that "good standing" is a requirement. If you dont want to do it, dont.   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 02:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia has lots of unwritten rules. Among them is that we extend certain courtesies to users in good standing (including renaming and usurpations) and do not extend them to users who are not in good standing.

As for making a new account and starting over -- sure, you could do that. On the other hand, if you go back to your usual disruptive behavior, and someone with checkuser should happen to catch you, you can expect an indef block for both accounts. Have a nice day. Raul654 (talk) 03:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Then un-written rules hehe, if rules are not written they do not exist in any valid state nor are enforceable . Yes, if I was persistently incivil on a new account, which is highly unlikely, thats understandable, however one would want a very very good reason to do such a check and not to do one in attempt to fish or ye could end up in very hot water. Just keep that in mind. Good standing, what makes a person in bad standing?   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 03:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I've looked at this usurpation request and made some comments at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations#Prom3th3an → Promethean. Could take a look and reconsider your decision given my remarks and the fact that Prom3th3an is now the owner of the global account "Promethean" (which I think changes the picture somewhat)? Several users do seem rather unhappy with the manner in which you have approached the request. WJBscribe (talk) 12:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I have closed the WP:AN thread because it seemed prone to creating unnecessary drama. If there is a past block history, wouldn't it make sense to rename the user as requested, and add a note to their new block log, and redirect their old user pages. I think that would provide adequate transparency. Jehochman ^Talk 13:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The block log is automatically renamed to the new account, a note is not required. The past block history is little more dramttic than rauls anyway ;). 203.122.240.118 (talk) 13:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Banned user not a banned user

User:Punctilius may of accidentally attempted to make a new account but he is and remains a active contributor to State of Fear... the rv you made of his based on his being banned was in fact a fully allowed edit and has raised no conterversy... what if any is your reasoning for the rv? --Aryeh M. Friedman (talk) 02:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

There was nothing accidental about it. Punctilius was a sockpuppet of Scibaby, possibly the single most disruptive sockpuppeteer in Wikipedia history. He has used literally hundreds of accounts to disrupt and bias our articles on climate change. The fact that the edits were made by a banned user is sufficient reason in itself to rv any and all of Punctilius's edits. Raul654 (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)