Talk:Gerard Way

Notice to all MCR editors - Please read!

It is great to see so many of you interested in improving MCR related wikipedia articles. However, there a few things you must remember. Because this page in paticular is a biography, please do not add any claims or rumours that are not well sourced. Please use the discussion page first, that is what it is here for. Second, do not add any personal opinions relating to any of the members, as this is an encyclopaedia. Thank you for contributing. --Sadistic monkey 23:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Current Residence

In the Author About page in the Umbrella Academy Apocalypse Suite book, it says Gerard currently lives in Los Angeles, CA with his wife. Loveyoudeathx3 (talk) 23:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

At the Bamboozle Left concert on April 6, 2008, Way stated that he now resides in Los Angeles, CA. I see the page is locked but just wanted to document that in case someone can change it. --206.117.15.4 (talk) 19:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

He still lives in West New York, New Jersey... hold lemme try to find the link.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by XXalymcrfanXx (talk • contribs) 03:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

In a radio interview on 6/14/08 for kroq, Gerard confirmed that he lives in Los Angeles, CA.

Is this fact relevant at all? -- Stormwatch (talk) 19:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Iron Maiden & Gerard Way

"She also made his costume, which included traditional green tights. After this Way "turned his back" on singing, saying, "Well, I don't want to be this weird singer kid, [I'm] into other things like comics and Iron Maiden". He then decided to pursue graphic arts."

Are there are any sources that can clarify that Gerard Way is into comics & Iron Maiden? His music is not in the style of Iron Maiden, nor is it in the same genre. What proof is there? Unconscious 14:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It's in the Life on the Murder Scene DVD and in several printed magazines. I'm huge into Green Day and I play jazz. I don't think it really matters what you listen to. I'll try to dig some up, but I've been hella busy lately. Thanks for your concern!--JUDE ^talk 19:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

If it's on the Life on the Murder Scene DVD, perhaps you should make a reference to it during that paragraph, or add it into the reference section? Unconscious 19:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Citation needed

"Way had always been interested in drawing and comics because his childhood house was a "dark and dingy gothic-looking" place in the town of Belleville, New Jersey. Way says that as a (emo)child, he was not able to play much outside, because it was a dangerous area. Instead, he created imaginary worlds in his head, which led to his love for artwork. As a child, Gerard came to the realization that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone. This has led to his current obsession with the idea of death. "

This paragraph is uncitated, and seems to be a mere claim... May someone review it, and change/remove it if it is found to be just a claim? Unconscious 14:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

This is found in the DVD as well, however the last part about dying came from imnotokay.net and a few users ( myself included ) believe that it's slightly sensationalised. I'm going to remove the part about dying alone.--JUDE ^talk 19:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

If it's on the Life on the Murder Scene DVD, perhaps you should make a reference to it during that paragraph, or add it into the reference section? Unconscious 19:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Gerard has mentioned that he "came to the realization that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone" in quite a few magazine articles, one being KERRANG! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:08, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

King of Rock

Recently on MTV2's All That Rocks, Gerard Way was voted the "Almighty King of Rock" with 63% of the vote. Should this be put on Gerard Way's page??

Ok, I put it on there, but if it needs to be moved around then it should. But that's an important think to add I think. Orfen 05:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that. --Remz 12:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

As long as you have added a source, that's fine.--Sadistic monkey 23:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, its about him,and its pretty important. well,not so important that it should stay on there forever, but yes,i think its a good idea. THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY 21:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It might been important but it's pretty stupid, MTV know nothing about Music anymore, I mean they never play music, they just fill it with Pimp My Ride. MTV is all about making money and Gerard Way is not a "king" of rock. People like Ronnie James Dio, Lemmy and Dimebag (RIP) should only be labeled "Kings" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jay316 (talk • contribs) 14:25, April 14, 2007 (UTC)

• I agree it's stupid. However, Ozzy, David Gilmour and Jimmy Hendrix are way more qualified than Dio, Lemmy and Dimebag. (Albert Mond (talk) 12:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC))

that sad..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.35.146 (talk) 07:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Change the photo already!!

Gerard has recently dyed his hair back to black again (as of his appearance on MTV, which can be viewed on YouTube with MCr performing "Dead!" and "Famous Last Words" from The Black Parade. The picture needs to be changed!!File:Http://file028b.bebo.com/0/mediuml/2007/01/04/17/2271190142a3075239309b923383635ml.jpg can someone do this for me i cant do it. and WE NEED A LONGER trivia section, i mean how can you get information, if theres hardly any. The Spanish version of this article is better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MuitoLocaNina (talk • contribs).

WP:BB --Jude 06:04, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

before forming the band with pooh bear...gerard way was in the band pency prep. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.53.129 (talk) 02:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC) As I have stated many times before, before we can change the picture, we first need a reliable source to use as a citation for him having black hair, and second we need a picture that we have permission to use from the license holder. --Sadistic monkey 02:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Do we really need to find the latest picture every time he changes his hair style? I mean, look at the Mariah article! She's got like 10 year old hair there but it's still a good article.Nukleoptra 23:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Kay, now there's no picture? What's up with that? I have a load of great pics of Gerard [ha, because that's how i spend my spare time (H) ;)] Aha, uhmm.. but i'm not a member of wikipedia nor do i have any idea how to add a picture. PS. I've tried. Can somebody please post a GOOD picture of Mr. Way? He deserves his attractive pics up on the net! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.108.188 (talk) 22:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Need a change again, he's grown it longer. (H) ;). Preferably one from the NME awards? I don't know how to upload them or anything, I'm not a member- just a Gerard Way fan! Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.209.197 (talk) 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Now his hair is dyed red. If i knew how i would change the photo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemrom (talk • contribs) 03:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article needs a pretty big cleanup- I've already removed unnecessary sections (see page history) and added citationneeded tags at various points. The article also needs to read more like an encyclopedia, and most of the article needs to be sourced, as I said before. Some of the sections are also about My Chemical Romance and not Gerard- Discography and Lyrics, and Musical Influences and Tastes, however some of the material in these are relevant to him, it's just a matter of filtering the My Chemical Romance material and putting it in that article. I'll be working on this over the next few weeks, but please help! Other than that, it's looking good, and it's got a pretty thorough biography. It's now just a matter of the wording. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 05:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, I think we need another blond picture of him at the top. The current one is small and he may have dyed his hair black for the New Years performance but that doesn't mean that is for the rest of the tour. Also the caption doesn't match the picture, an easy fix but I still think it should be a blond picture of him for right now.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 20:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed- I don't think there's any recent pics of him with black hair anyway. I'm pretty sure it's black at the moment, but I could be wrong- we'll find out for certain at Big Day Out, at least, unless people can find pictures of him sooner? The most recent ones I can see are with short black hair. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 08:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe that it is black right now during Big Day Out. I believe so. But this isn't really part of their The Black Parade tour yet, so unless someone has something recent I'd try to go with a blond one.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 08:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

A minor detail- "charismatic" is spelled incorrectly in the trivia section Oroneko 06:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Remember to be bold, though. I'll change it now.--Jude 20:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Well since its protected and Im still rather new, I cant change it. (curses!) Though uh- the s in charismatic was left out this time.

Ohhh I see, I'm sorry! Oh boy. I'll check it out lol, thanks again.--Jude 06:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Just thought, since the edit it disabled, i would put this section that needs a citation

" This event changed Way dramatically; he told Spin magazine, "I literally said to myself, 'Fuck art. I’ve gotta get out of the basement. I’ve gotta see the world. I’ve gotta make a difference!'"[citation needed] "

source: http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/covers/2005/05/05312005_mcr/ Mlfm256 02:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)Mlfm256 you need to change it but not every time he gets a different one. just change it with the main ones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.255.174.82 (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

picture (g, with black hair)

Some one change the picture because i dont know how to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MuitoLocaNina (talk • contribs) 01:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

The picture is pretty out of date, it's not recent at all. And by the way, whether it's a picture of him blonde or not, it doesn't really matter, it's him. True, he has dyed it back, but the fact is it's still him. A more recent photo, however, should be preferable. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 08:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Not to be rude or anything, but if you want a newer pic of gerard, then why say you dont care if he has blond or black hair. He already died it black so im quite sure that any pic of him in blond hair is not a recent one.

(P.S)Does anyone know where he is in the current pic? Someone told me it was his house.

can u get a newer pic cause this 1 is off the 3 cheers album b4 the ghost of u and there r loads of modern pic of him

Plus it's terrible. There's a tonne of great pictures of Gee, with black or blonde hair, that's w*y better than that. I would post a smexi one, but i'm not a member of wikipedia. Sorry =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.108.188 (talk) 22:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sources

I've seen this major problem with pretty much every article related to My Chemical Romance -- people aren't sourcing! People are adding rumors and hearsay to the pages. Not just that, people are adding things that ARE the truth but aren't putting sources. We need to work on cleaning this up, in my opinion.

72.200.21.91 09:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm of the opinion that this entire article needs to be rewritten from the ground up. Apart from including details that are more suited for the My Chemical Romance article, it's badly formatted, badly laid out, and doesn't cite enough sources. illspirit|talk 10:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe this page should be restricted to registered users only. There has been a lot of vandalism/guests placing false rumours; this isn't the playground, kids! Stop adding rumours to our factual pages. Unconscious 21:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately it seems that some people are registering in order to add rumours etc... it's not exactly difficult to register. Is there no way to restrict it to people who've been members for a certain amount of time? It's already semi-protected but it doesn't have the banner on it to say that - which I think is probably a good idea since it may deter people from joining just to edit. thefunkygibson 21:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Can i just say that u complain bout sourcing but u have that gerard was influnced to play guitar by billie joe armstrong i no that gerad can play bit if guitar but that was frank iero not gerard Frank the 1 that looks up to bilie not gerard \gerad more likes billy corgon so i may b wrong but u need to check on that 1 --86.133.220.185 20:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Er.. what? Unconscious [[User

Talk:Unconscious|(talk)]] 20:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You got that gerard was influnced to play the guitar by billie joe.Billie joe didnt influnce Gerard to play guitar. Billie joe influced Frank iero. Billie joe influnced gerard into bein a rock star not playin the guitar like you hav writtian down. I am sorry if i am wrong but in interviews with mcr and they talk bout their influnces its frank that says he was influnced to play the guitar because of billie joe!--86.133.220.185 08:33, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

According to the following article, Billie Joe Armstrong did indeed influence him to play guitar. His quote from the interview: I always cite my influences as being the Misfits and the Smiths and the Cure; those artists inspired me to write music. But Billie Joe from Green Day influenced me to play guitar. http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/my_chemical_romance/news_feature_022805/ Stakore 03:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Citation Needed

What's with all the Citation Needed comments everywhere? Yes, I understand they're important, but the fact that he still smokes needs citation..? I understand that people need to be sure but if there's a citation for every single tiny detail there'll be more links than information on the page. =/

Since this is a biography article, and on a subject that is vandalized on a regular basis, if it sounds like it could be false it has to be cited. And the fact that he still smokes probably shouldn't be in there anyways, it's really trivial. It doesn't need to be on every little detail, but on a whole, we need to make sure that everything in the article is 100% fact.Darthgriz⁹⁸ 03:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Gerard way does smoke, but he has said in some magazine articlesthat he wants to give up.it was his new years resolution, but he failed. but he does smoke. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:34, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's that's not a verifiable source, your statement there. Link us to information on the internet, and we can cite such information. However, I feel that whether he smokes or not is too trivial to be in this article. Unconscious 13:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Gerard Way does smoke, I saw MCR n Vegas, a non smoking venue called "The Joing" and he was smoking, alot. Maddramaqueen13 (talk) 23:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

He smoked Marlboro Lights when he was in Singapore. 218.186.12.9 (talk) 17:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Gerard does in fact smoke. On the show "Planet Rock (MCR edition)", Gerard and Bob were being interviewed and Gerard was smoking. It was on the FUSE music channel. This episode aired TV in early 2008. Gerard has also made statements that have indicated that he's a smoker. That's really gross though. Smoking kills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.129.121 (talk) 21:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Images of Gerard

A note to editors: images added to pages must have copyright tags and be free images. I have removed the image of Gerald since most likely it is not free and has no tags whatsoever. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 03:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Art section

I moved the part about his art in the "background" information to the section for "art" which had previously been deleted I'm *guessing* due to lack of solid information. I figure that his artwork isn't really background since he is presently working on it, and I think it deserves its own space. If anyone disagrees, I'm open to change, just let me know!--Jude 22:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The headline is "Art" when it's nothing about his Artwork. Shouldn't it be changed to something more suitable like "The Umbrella Academy"? Katmandu 18:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wording

Since the edit summary was getting to be a bit long-winded. I reverted the following edits: found here because the wording is very awkward and I think it goes without saying. It seems slightly redundant and unnecessary to me, but the original editor disagrees reverting the edit, so I wanted to see what everyone else thought about it. Here is the original text before the edits:

As a child, Gerard came to the revelation that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone.

here is the text after the edits:

As a child, Gerard came to the revelation that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone, unless someone whom he cares about is still alive when he dies, or he and everyone he cares about die simultaneously.

Please let us both know what you think :). I added a "citation needed" because it might help us clear up what exactly Gerard said personally.--JUDE ^talk 23:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I liked the original sentence better. I agree about the second one being very redundant--it pretty much says that he'll die alone unless he's not alone :P --Yunaresuka 16:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and change it since there are two of us who agree that the first is sufficient enough. Discussion is still open, as always, so anyone who disagrees or agrees, please leave it here!--JUDE ^talk 02:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I admit, I was taking the piss. If Gerard's realisation counts as a 'revelation' he must be a bigger cretin than I gave him credit for.

Eustace Plimsoll 09:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Um, a couple of weeks ago the die alone part wasn't even in there. Either way I doubt the factuality of it and if it even needs to go into the article, but the second is way too redundant and most likely vandalism or OR. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 01:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I read the "die alone" part pre-redundancy on imnotokay.net, but it seemed like padding and filler to me. I don't really have an opinion on whether the realisation part stays or goes. I hadn't thought about it, to be honest. Whatever the editors think is appropriate is fine with me.--JUDE ^talk 02:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

i read in K! that he said that even if there were people all around him when he died that he would still be alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:43, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

The Hair

The caption states "his new short hair", has he gone back to black? I thought he was staying with blond till the end of this tour. Shamess 10:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

He went back to black around Christmas. I'm pretty sure the first time people saw him with it was when MCR performed at New Year's on MTV. --Yunaresuka 15:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well its still pretty new.. I put up that picture btw sonny moore fftl 05:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Just a heads up, your image needs to have a fair use rational and has to be a free image or it can't be on the page. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 03:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

He said in a K! interveiw that he went back to black because he felt like hewas loosing himself in the blond because it wasn't who he was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:44, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

Gee looks good with black or blonde hair. I personally think his white-blonde hair suits him and I also like it better short then long. LONG LIVE GERARD & HIS SEXY HAIR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.223.213 (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

i saw MCR on April 14, 2008. and Gerard had long, black hair. I think he just wanted to get back to normal. and it looks good! Hippiechick909 (talk) 01:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)hippiechick909

Ahh, thanks for the update! =) Like, honestly. But eww, long + black again.. why would Gee do that? I think he looks w*y better with shorter hair. And I personally could care less if it's black or blonde. I think he looks good with black or blonde. And he can defs pull off blonde hair 100% sexily. Ha, like my new word? ;)

He has red hair now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.95.237.9 (talk) 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

'Gothic House'

Fourth best-looking female??? Is that a joke?! Also, the house he grew up in was far from dark and gothic. That's making him out to be more 'street' or 'goth' or whatever than he actually is like Blur, Vanilla Ice and Lily Allen have done. And one more thing: why is there about as much on Bert McCracken than his whole musical career? Most people haven't heard of it; but nearly everyone's heard of MCR. The section could be trimmed down.Nukleoptra 23:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The Fourth best looking female is actually true. It was part of a livejournal.com serge of votes. Your opinions are greatly valued, however do you have any sources to say that Gerard is pretending to be more than what he is "like Blur, Vanilla Ice, and Lily Allen have done"? I'm not saying that he hasn't, but such a strong opinion should be backed by a source before we could add it to the article. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion. I agree that the Bert feud should be trimmed down considerably.--JUDE ^talk 03:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm working on sources. Best looking female, though... that still makes me laugh. Well, he is effeminate so, it figures. Maybe there should be an expalanation for people who are confused when they read that bit.Nukleoptra 21:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah you're very right, I laughed pretty hard too. I hope he found it funny, as well. I'm working on digging up the link. There are a lot of entries in the livejournal.com community to go through and find it. Thanks for reminding me, though!--JUDE ^talk 22:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Possible Protection of Talk page

I have had several posts of mine vandalised, and I've noticed other user's posts changing to other things also. The last section I have had vandalised was the following:

I vote emo; but a personal point of view is meaningless when it comes down to a factual biography, so I best leave it up to you guys. Unconscious 14:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Just to let UNCONSCIOUS know: MCR IS NOT EMO. Gerard has stated he thinks "Emo is effing garbage." MCR doesn't want to be categorized as emo. And if you hate the band, get off their discussion page. MCR fans visit sites about them. People that don't like MCR and visit their sites have no life. How about you go out get one and get off MCR's case. They wouldn't value your opinoin anyways. You're not a fan. I am a fan and have seen countless interviews. Also, I have been to one of their concerts. MCR does not believe violence is a solution for anything. They believe violence doesn't work. They don't believe that you should be unhappy and should get help if something is bothering you. Another thing, MCR's fans are definetly not all emo. They have fans of all ages and different styles. You don't have to be emo to listen and really enjoy MCR's alternative/punk rock music. They always have been and always will be amazing. I bet they've changed peoples lives. IN A POSITIVE WAY. They're so inspiring. As a person, I am not emo and I love their music. The Black Parade was so full of life. The topics of the CD (life, death, and love) are what everything's all about. Death is not a negative thing. Everybody will have a time and place for it. If you bring it upon yourself, shame on you. Humans were created to enjoy every aspect of life. So, enjoy it! Gerard, Mikey, Frank, Bob, and Ray don't make their music to depress people. They make it to express themselves and let others enjoy their life stories. And they're amazing at that. -- massive fag

i know this is wrong, butI vote emo; im just a stupid retard. but a personal point of view is meaningless when it comes down to a factual biography, so I best leave it up to you guys. Unconscious 14:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The vandalism was carried out by user 71.193.159.202.

To prevent further vandalism, perhaps the talk page should be protected from newly registered users? I'd like to add, that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a semiprotect to the main article, also, as that has been subject to vandalism many times in the past. Unconscious 13:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

' I shall request a semiprotect to the main article, as there hasn't been any objections. please post here if you have any. The article has been subject to much vandalism, and a semiprotect cannot do any harm. Unconscious 22:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)'

Aye, I'd second the idea of protecting this talk page as well, for even before I came here to post this message, I found and edited out some slanderous looking WikiCode from near the top of the page. :-|

I actually came to this section as I was looking to discuss protection of the main article itself and not the talk page, so I have changed the heading of this section to reduce ambiguity and confusion. :-)

Hyperspeed - 13th February 2008CE - 00:40 UTC

Photo updates

As much as I LOVE checking this page every day to see all the photo changes, I wish people would stop putting up old pictures of him when there are thousands of current ones available. I see the one that's on there right now is from the 2006 Warped tour (That's three hairstyles ago, for those of you who track time that way), while the one before that was from 2007. Can't anything be put in place to keep people from changing the photo all willy-nilly?

Because I'm having a really hard time overcoming the temptation to replace it with his high school photo.Crossbow1 19:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There has been many photo changes. Stop changing the pesky photo, and leave it as it is. How about, instead of messing about with your photo, you try and verify all of the claims made on the page? I still think it should be semiprotected. Unconscious 22:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

In one of the interviews (used to be in the interview section of the article) that he lately he found someone very special. And in another website I visited, which I cannot cite, says that at a show he said he was engaged. And the speculation about it being a purity ring was said by the bandmates to hide the fact he was engaged until later....

I am not entirely sure. --71.211.71.212 21:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

CITATIONS NEEDED

I have just added a bunch of "Citation Needed"s to the article on claims that will need backing up with legit sources. This does not include MTV webpages. If in the next 3 weeks, sources are not found for each alert, I shall remove all unsourced material.' All supposed 'quotes' need citations. You cannot quote him on anything, unless you have proof that he had honestly said it. Furthermore, please do not cite celebrity gossip webpages, or a website that isn't notable. That is just as bad as not having a citation at all. I apologise for the mess of the main article, the citations alerts needed to be added for every claim I could find, that requires a source. Cheers.

Furthermore, (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/way%20confirms%20engagement_1032911) I personally, do not consider that a notable source. The information provided is barely anything, and from the looks of the website, it is not particulary notable. How about we await a *real* annoucement from Gerard Way, before we even mention an engagement? Unconscious 22:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

How about we remove that he is enagaged to Eliza Cuts, just say he's enagaged, and put the reliable sources like MTV UK, NME, and Kerrang? I have the articles right here.

http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/01062007/exclusive_my_chemical_romance_singer_engaged

http://www.nme.com/news/my-chemical-romance/28701

http://www2.kerrang.com/2007/06/gerard_way_gets_engaged.html

Just a suggestion. 24.222.102.218 21:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I have removed the Eliza Cuts reference TWICE, but someone keeps editing it back in. Keep an eye on the history, so we can find the culprit. Unconscious 20:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

It has been around 2 and a half weeks since I originally made this section, and not a single citation has been added in. Therefore, once the article is unlocked, I shall remove all unsourced information. If you have any objections, please post here. Unconscious 15:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Just thought, since the edit it disabled, i would put this section that needs a citation.

" This event changed Way dramatically; he told Spin magazine, "I literally said to myself, 'Fuck art. I’ve gotta get out of the basement. I’ve gotta see the world. I’ve gotta make a difference!'"[citation needed] "

source: http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/covers/2005/05/05312005_mcr/ Mlfm256 02:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)Mlfm256

I have a reliable source. A reliable one. It says Gerard is no longer engaged. Here: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22055675-5003421,00.html

So, there, you are wrong. The engagement is off. It can be cited. Katmandu 18:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and, By the way... It says under References "ImNotOK.net" when it should be "ImNotOkay.net". You don't want to give false information. Katmandu 18:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

You all want proof

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/44170776

Read that! It tells he is ENGAGED!!! ~Kirsten~ 17 June 2007

• sighs* We know he's engaged. It's to who that the big fuss is about. Unconscious 09:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Unprotection

I've unprotected the article. Please avoid edit-warring, and discuss proposed changes and disputes on the talk page. MastCell ^Talk 23:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, will do. Thank you. :) Unconscious 08:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Though edit-warring is certainly not an ideal approach to fine-tuning a biographical wiki, some users are persistent in their efforts to include rumors regarding Gerard Way's relationship with Eliza Cuts (without reliable sources, or courses). We shouldn't be hesitant to strip these away to avoid edit-warring. Stakore 03:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Uncited Information

I am going to delete all uncited information today. It's been around 2 and a half weeks since I posted the section on the talk page asking for sources to be stated. So I feel that 2 and a bit weeks is a long enough opportunity to edit in all existing sources. I'm going to assume the rest is uncitable information, so I will remove it. Instead of creating an edit war, please contact me if you object. You've had nearly three weeks to object, and you didn't, so I assume I'm able to do this as there have been no objections. Unconscious 08:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Uncited information has now been deleted. Please help perform a clean-up, and cite any statements that could do with a reference. Unconscious 08:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I just deleted the "is engaged to be married to eliza cuts". Can you put protection in this page?? --Christa

Requested it. Waiting for an admin's decision. The amount of vandalism is insane. It's all the little kids visiting the page, I swear. Unconscious 08:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Semi protection was denied. We'll have to just put up with reverting vandalism. Unconscious 10:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, where is the first part of this article??? User:FendiCatz

I fixed the first part. User:FendiCatz

hmmm... well if you can't protect it ignore it...i know this is a

"suppose to be help site" but if they want reasonable answers they're going to have to stop asking truculant questions...just ignore it. only answer the question that have citations, all those little children are doing is making this wiki a hasioan for spam. Panicdork911 3:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It is now protected, thank god. PS: Wikipedia is not a help site. They are misusing this site also as much as if I was to go around on dictionary.com and ask for help with a video game! Unconscious (talk) 09:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Everybody, somebody wrote "And is deathly afraid of needles..secretly a gentleman". I really don't think that belongs here, but now the article is protected...User:FendiCatz

Just removed it- thanks. CattleGirl ^talk 11:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

If they do it again, request blocking. I had warned this user for vandalism before, I believe. Unconscious (talk) 11:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks User:FendiCatz

Picture

Okay, maybe this article could use a picture or two. The one it has is three hairstyles ago. Maybe we can find a new one. How do you upload a picture?? User:FendiCatz

I already uploaded one and changed it, and got snapped at, so I won't be doing that again anytime soon.

This article has a picture. It does not need another, and it is not worth the hassle. Unconscious (talk) 16:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I see no picture for this article. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Contribs(I wouldn't look at these if I were you) 16:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

That comment was from last year. There currently is no picture. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 17:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the current picture needs to be changed.. In my opinion, it's a crappy picture. It definetly does not serve Gerard any justice. He's way better looking than that. And plus, you can hardly even see his face =( He needs to be seen!♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.129.121 (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Engaged

I've noticed someone has tried to spark off an edit war by putting in the engagement information before the issue has been decided. As of yet, until a final decision is made, we shall not put anything about the engagement on the article. For starters, the source stating they had broken up had little to do with a breakup, but more so settling down instead of constantly being on the move. I find it hard to believe that he got engaged, and broke up, in the period of about a month, and we still don't have any names. For this reason, I personally, I'm going to dismiss it as a rumour. If it is edited back in, I shall ask for administrator guidance as to our next course of action. I do not find that the source is reputable, and it seems to be, me and 'anonymous' are the only users editing the page, or checking the talk page at the present. Unconscious (talk) 16:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Gerard is now currently MARRIED to Lyn-Z of "Mindless Self-Indulgence". They got married on September 3 of 2007. Now that the issue is settled, they deserve their privacy. =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.129.121 (talk) 21:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 16:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Comic Credits

The article mentions that Way was working in the "comic industry" before starting his band, but there are no details given. It might be handy, I think, to have some information on what exactly this work was. Did he have any published work, or was he into self-publishing? Kelvingreen 07:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Better protection of main article?

Hi everyone! :-)

Just thought I would make a suggestion that the protection on this page be moved up a notch to "Admin only" or similar. The reason that I'm suggesting this is simply because - Although the page is currently protected from new users - I still wound up removing vandalism that had been placed there by another Wikipedia user that I came across whilst visiting the page to reference something else, and as MCR often get a lot of stick for being "Emo", just about any MCR-related page on Wikipedia could well be a prime target for vandalism. :-(

I'm hoping that this is an isolated incident (Just a random MCR-hater maybe?) but it does make me think that a lot of MCR-related pages could be vulnerable to vandalism from other Wikipedia users who have a disliking of the band, and protection from such things (As opposed to edit wars) might be a better solution, provided there are enough editors who are MCR fans available to keep the pages updated. :-)

I must admit that I'm one of the "other lot" (Someone who doesn't like MCR at all), but even then I'd sooner remove vandalism rather than forge it...Alas though, the majority of this "other lot" could possibly be a primary source of vandalism unless these pages are protected better... :-(

DieselDragon (Talk) - 13th February 2008CE 01:48 UTC —Preceding comment was added at 01:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk page cleanup?

Hail again! :-)

Given the length of this talk page, I propose that the old and "finished with" stuff be archived to keep this talk page clear and easier to use. I'd normally create such an archived copy myself, but the only method I know for doing this is to cut/paste all of the text into a new archive page. If there's any discussion currently going on here (I don't really have time to check for this, alas.) that method would probabally lead to problems and people having to yank their stuff out of the archive again. :-(

Given this page must be close to the 100Kb mark, I reckon it's high time an archival copy was taken...But I think it'd be best for me to leave this to a more experienced user to make sure I don't go archiving something that's still current. :-)

DieselDragon (Talk) - 24 April 2008CE = 02:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm removing the inappropriate content, before we have to archive. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 00:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Inappropriate Talk Page content

This is not a webforum, or a myspace, or a personal site to discuss Gerard Way. This site is for discussion of the ARTICLE on Gerard Way. Random chatter and speculation, if not related directly to the article, will be reverted. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 00:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

'apparent' death

PROOF HE IS NOT DEAD: http://c.imagehost.org/view/0090/bRandom_1215718200421.png

Can someone actually prove he's dead, or is this some sick joke? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrosftw (talk • contribs) 17:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC) No, he really is dead. I heard it on digg.

How about an offical link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrosftw (talk • contribs) 17:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I saw no results on Google News for this. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

His death has ONLY been reported on last.fm, which is why i don't believe this at all. No news sources either.afrosftw (talk) 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

And digg hasn't had anything on Gerard Way for the last 65 days according to this Anonymous101 (talk) 17:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the removal of the "death" statements until cited. Kukini ^{háblame aquí} 17:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

There has just been an announcement of his death on RockMusicTV. - MCRJames92 18:36, 10 July 2008

Death has been confirmed. RIP :(

Just heard it on KCRM rock radio :/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.118.233.231 (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

It's true :( http://digg.com/music/Gerard_Way_singer_of_My_Chemical_Romance_Dead_Today —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.211.13 (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Comfirmed dead on several radio stations including Kerrang —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.67.145 (talk) 17:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I phoned the label - the woman I spoke to said a statement confirming his death should be posted MCR website within a few hours.71.248.186.126 (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC) So how, exactly did he die?

Copy from tinternet: "On Thursday, July 10, 2008, Gerard Way was killed in a car crash near his home in New Jersey. Way was treated on the scene but died from his injuries in transit to the hospital.Local reports indicate that a truck lost control and swung across the road into the oncoming traffic, four other people are reported as having been admitted to the local hospital." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurogen (talk • contribs) 18:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

It is a hoax, as proven below in the screenshot.

I pray to God that this isn't true. And I haven't done any further research yet. But if this is a prank/hoax done by some person, YOU'RE FCKING SICK. My eyes just welled up with tears. He's an amazing person, and has done nothing to deserve this sick shit that some idiot is posting.

Protection

PROOF HE IS NOT DEAD: http://c.imagehost.org/view/0090/bRandom_1215718200421.png

There seems to rumors that Gerard Way has died, and all the information regarding his death has been unsourced, or been given unreliable sources. Since semi-protection was already in place, I've increased it to full for two days. If more information becomes available, any admin may reduce the protection early, and does not need to contact me beforehand. Thanks. Acalamari 19:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

In addition, I would appreciate not having my comments removed. Thank you. Acalamari 19:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

No, there still are no reliable sources that he has died. Digg does not count as a reliable source. Billboard shows nothing. CNN shows nothing. Rolling Stone shows nothing. Please do not reinsert death dates for him, as it violates our policy on biographies of living people. It is perfectly likely that this is a sick hoax. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 19:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I too did a search and looked at the news, but nothing appears regarding any death. It was after that search and the influx of edits from autoconfirmed accounts about the death that I decided to fully-protect the page. Acalamari 19:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

YHBT, have a nice day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.153.44 (talk) 19:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a 4Chan hoax. Screenshot (Not Safe For Work, includes porn). (Spotted by Swatjester.) - David Gerard (talk) 19:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm...more 4chan nonsense. That makes sense. Thanks. Acalamari 20:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Death? July 10th 2008

PROOF HE IS NOT DEAD: http://c.imagehost.org/view/0090/bRandom_1215718200421.png USE YOUR HEAD PEOPLE. DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ, ESPECIALLY ON INTERNET SITES YOU CAN'T TRUST.

• Update* AbsolutePunk.net confirms these rumors false. [1]

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-44443

http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=9297927892

http://digg.com/music/Gerard_Way_singer_of_My_Chemical_Romance_Dead_Today —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.232.99 (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I too have heard of this and express my condolences. The article should be updated as soon as possible/

Seems to be prank organized by 4chan users. See here http://c.imagehost.org/view/0090/bRandom_1215718200421.png --KaragouniS :  Chat  20:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

There is nothing on Google News about it so it has to be a prank. Biggestsfgfan123ssl (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

It is a hoax. There is absolutely nothing in the major news sources about it, and as above, it's a 4chan trick. Acalamari 15:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}} He currently lives with his wife in Los Angeles, California.

He said he lives in Los Angeles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQfcVf8iUQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampire781 (talk • contribs) 07:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 16:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Was he born to a Scottish-American father and Italian-American mother?

Just wondering if this is the case, can anyone clarify?--WhoopRoot (talk) 22:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}}

Hi, his Grandmother's name is Helana not Elana. The song is called Helana and i just watched an interveiw and he said Helana. I think this should be changed. Thanks!

Lilly.

Her's name spelled Helena. Also, her name is actually Elena, but her friends called her Helen and Gerard said because of all that he saw her as Helena. --Bottle-Of-Musical-Joy (talk) 14:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

The grandma's name is Elena, which is Italien, but they pronounced the english way calling her Helen, I think he pronounces literally Helena the second e sounding like the e in "get". 80.39.228.226 (talk) 16:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Thyst

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=qulKC6iYq7Q here he pronounces first in spanish and then the other way you can hear it here first in the spanish ay and then the other one 80.39.228.226 (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Thyst

 Not done, I'm not willing to make this requested edit based on subjectively listening to speech on a Youtube video. You may well be right about the name, but please provide a text source if you wouldn't mind. Thanks. ~ mazca ^{t | c} 13:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

he's not emo....

my headline already has it's own contents... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anjo14gerard (talk • contribs) 17:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

No one is saying he's emo. The genres stated in his infobox are those of the music he makes. There has been a lot of argument about emo being or not being one of MCR's genres, but it's there, cited with several sources. Grungedude22 (talk) 11:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Gerard Way death rumour

In the past weeks KERRANG! magazine Gerard Way commented on internet rumour that was started saying that he had died in a car accident involving two other cars and an overturned lorry. Would it be worth putting this information onto the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harding977 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Mmm... maybe if at least two other major magazines mention it. But even then you've gotta be careful because of WP:BLP considerations. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 01:19, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

His Hair

Gerard has had many hair colors and styles from longer styled black to short black hair or short white blond hair. He is now setelled on Red hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.43.13 (talk) 23:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

he has dyed it back to black —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanx4thexvenom (talk • contribs) 22:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Should be deleted

As it has apparently been decided that other members of the band do not warrant individual wikipedia pages, this one should be deleted also. 74.244.60.110 (talk) 19:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)Jamie

He has several other points of notability other than the band. --neon white talk 19:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Eisner Award

His recent win for Best Limited Series should surely be on his page? (http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_eisners_08win.shtml#winners)

86.138.47.34 (talk) 18:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

he was born in Newark NJ