User talk:Syntacticus

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Ah-hah! I got to welcome you twice!

That's a cool username, by the way. Cheers, CWC(talk) 11:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Chris. I thought it was an appropriate nom de plume. Syntacticus 04:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

July 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Barack Obama, but we regretfully cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. I have been editing entries for a long time and am aware of the rules. You appear to have jumped the gun: I am not finished this edit yet. Best. Syntacticus (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions, including your edits to Barack Obama. However, please be aware of Wikipedia's policy that biographical information about living persons must not be libelous. Any controversial statements about a living person added to an article, or any other Wikipedia page, must include proper sources. Your edits cited a reference that cannot be considered a reliable source by any conceivable measure. Please discuss additions of a contentious nature on Talk:Barack Obama before making them. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

November 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Gamaliel (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Gamaliel: I wish you and others would stop welcoming me to Wikipedia. I've been on it for 2 years, I think. Although I may not be the most active Wikipedian, I have at least a passing familiarity with the rules. Don't patronize me. Syntacticus (talk) 06:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Syntacticus, you're absolutely right of course, but we must be extremely, extremely careful about impugning the motives of this particular group of editors. They are well-organized off-Wiki, there are a lot of them, the administrators are friendly to them, and they have a standing reservation at WP:ANI to file complaints and get us blocked and topic banned. Be extremely polite and use Wikipedia policies against them. Feel free to email me at any time. Kossack4Truth (talk) 18:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Could you tell me where this off-Wiki conspiracy is located? I'd like to sign up. Thanks. Gamaliel (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, of course you would. That's why you've been identified as one of the admins who have a left-wing bias, Gamaliel. By the way, did you notice that Peter Roskam won re-election? Kossack4Truth (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

"Been identified"? Oh, am I on a blacklist at the National Review now? Please don't use talk pages to promote your conspiracy theories. Thank you. Gamaliel (talk) 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

National Review? No, of course not. Wikipedia Review? Perhaps. Kossack4Truth (talk) 18:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia review? Well that would explain the conspiracy theories. Which intelligence agency do I work for? I need to know where to get reimbursed for my expenses. Gamaliel (talk) 19:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Gamaliel, looking at your talk page would indicate that you are highly bias to the left (see the nice picture shrine of the "THE ONE" Obama on you talk page) and you are rude and condescending with a penchant to bully and intimidate any one to calling you to task. You respond to reasonable questions you don't like with name calling, insults and censorship and banning, Gamaliel you a bold face hypocrite and a coward. Gamaliel,your insults are indicative of the juvenile attitude you have; the petty and vindictiveness which makes you unfit in any role that requires even handed oversight. Gamalie is an abomination to the concepts of fairness, honesty, and neutrality. If jimbo reads these things, he should realize this particular admin is a very bad apple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.222.58.0 (talk) 18:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Capital Research Center reports

Please be aware that Wikipedia is not a publishing arm of Capital Research Center. The bulk of your contributions have been related to adding links to that website. Users with the same name, Syntacticus, are adding links to the same site on other webistes, so this does not appear to be an exception. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Do not lecture me and please be aware, Will_Beback, that Capital Research Center produces valuable, hard-to-find scholarship. Censor me at your peril. I will be watching you. Syntacticus (talk) 21:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

{{helpme}} Will_Beback keeps vandalizing the articles I add to Wikipedia entries. This is unacceptable. He should be warned or banned. Please help. Syntacticus (talk) 21:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:VAND for info about warnings and such.--Res2216firestar 21:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) Hmm...no? If an admin tells you something, he/she has most likely their reasons. {{helpme}} is no way to complain about this. You should be VERY careful undoing such edits as vandalism because they are not vandalism. Those problems are content disputes and you should seek dispute resolution if you disagree. Regards SoWhy 22:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The reports I have referenced are from reliable sources. I will continue to post them. Syntacticus (talk) 02:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Moreover, who is to say that Capital Research Center reports are not trustworthy? I see left-of-center think tanks and activist groups cited on Wikipedia routinely and those additions are almost always left undisturbed. I will seek dispute resolution if this continues. Syntacticus (talk) 02:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly Craighead

FYI: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly Craighead. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 05:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

External links

Please do not add advertising or inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 01:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I have not done so. You are biased. Syntacticus (talk) 16:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Acorn and 3rr

I have not rolled back your latest insertion of the cocaine allegation against consensus (and you continue to source it to a blog) to leave the neutrality tag; however, if you reinsert the material again you will be in violation of 3rr. Please desist and address this on talk. If you reinsert i'll be going to AN/I, fyi.Bali ultimate (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

• This edit,[1] made after the above warning, is a WP:3RR violation. These edits [2][3][4] violate WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. Please do not attack other editors or edit war when you do not get your way. You should discuss things in a collaborative way on the talk page of any articles in question. Wikidemon (talk) 04:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

There are legitimate concerns, and the policy is to leave the banners until resolved. I wont involve myself with revertingg in tandem to avoid 3rr problems. Concesus has not been achieved on the neutrality yet, so I hope that yuou will both ease up . The Cocaiine insert is a violation, so I would do your public mea culpa, Spart and get it over with. A propt recognition of the problem often avoids a block so get to ANI when you are reported and learn form it.Die4Dixie (talk) 22:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

New user box

Me likey likey! you might want to check out USER: Bedford, he has some really cool ones !Die4Dixie (talk) 04:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Acorn Again

This is the last place i want to be. You know the way things work. That tag started with false, unsupported accusations, syntacticus basically started a flare up over it, a sock or two (one immediately blocked, not sure about the other) drifted in, and now you're at the same bone. In none of these cases has any of the tag proposers on talk actually provided a reason, never th eless tried to open a meaningful discussion of why this is needed now (i note that Dixie and Syntacticus began their long back and forth after the "regulars" on Acorn accept for me were well away for the day.) This notice is to ask you to desist.Bali ultimate (talk) 05:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

CRC conflict of interest

It appears that you are using an internet connection from Capital Research Center, and that you are an employee or associate of that organization. Please familiarize yourself with the relevent guidelines, at WP:COI. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about Will Beback? What do you mean appears to be using an interesting connection from Capital Research Center and what proof do you have, bluffer? I act for myself and myself alone. Syntacticus (talk) 01:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

The IP in question is 67.155.175.34 and, based on the contributions from that IP[5], it appear to be used by you. If you are associated with CRC then there is a COI situation, and you are advised to read and follow the suggestions in that guideline. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 02:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Right. As I noted below, Will Beback, what kind of McCarthyism is this? Are you smearing me just because someone else apparently has some of the same editing interests? Syntacticus (talk) 06:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

The issue is COI. It appears that you are editing using an IP address belonging to CRC. Due to your previous edit history, it also appears that you have a connection to CRC. There's nothing wrong with that, per se, but it does raise conflict of interest issue when you are adding links to CRC and citing their reports. That's why a clear response would help resolve the matter. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

You are mentioned here: [[6]]Bali ultimate (talk) 21:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

What is this? The McCarthy era? Syntacticus (talk) 01:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Tag at ACORN

My concerns have be remedied at the article, and I believe that my remaining concerns can be worked out via the talk page. It has been 24 hours since you have edited the article, so if you want to list your concerns, do it soon. The others have a right to have the tag removed if they don't get solid reasons to keep it. I promise you that a reasonable request, reasonably stated will get heard better, with more likelihood of acceptance than angry ones. I have a wierd attraction to controversial topics, but i have found that I have been able to make edits by being reasonable that I would have never been able to get otherwise. you can too if you don't alienate everyone. I know it is hard sometimes, and we all loose it sometimes, but I have had productive discussions with all but one of the editors there ( can't like everyone, can you?).Die4Dixie (talk) 08:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Check User

You are mentioned here: [[7]]Bali ultimate (talk) 18:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

December 2008

This edit,[8] to Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, following two other reversions of the same material,[9][10] is disruptive and violates a number of Wikipedia policies: WP:AGF, WP:NPA, WP:EW, etc. You have reverted material four times in the article within a few hours, (the other one here[11]) so it is a likely WP:3RR violation. You have been warned about WP:COI edits that may also be a WP:SOCK violation. In addition, if it turns out you are associated with Capital Research Center it is a WP:COI problem as well. You have also been engaging in tendentious editing at Southern Poverty Law Center. I will revert the edits as disruptive if they have not been already. Do not repeat these edits or you will likely be blocked at least temporarily by an administrator from further editing to avoid disruption. - Wikidemon (talk) 07:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

It is a different edit on different subjects and so it does not run afoul of any rules of which I am aware. The Cloward-Piven Strategy material is new and well substantiated. I have reverted different material in an effort to back up my neutrality tag and have discussed same on the ACORN talk page, which is as I understand it, is the correct way to go. I am not being disruptive. I am being highly transparent and explaining my actions as I go. YOU ARE BEING DISRUPTIVE by zapping whatever I do without any apparent regard for fairness. As for COI, I have said that allegation is false. Can you prove otherwise? In the whole wide world it is not surprising that multiple editors have common interests. Syntacticus (talk) 07:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

As a point of order, WP:3RR does not require all the reverts to be of the same material. I warned rather than filing a report so you would have a chance to review the policy. A number of editors have tried to caution you about this. If you have a disputed edit and you are not a COI editor you should discuss it civilly and collaboratively on the article talk page and try to seek consensus, not edit war to get your edits in. Wikidemon (talk) 08:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I have discussed it civilly but you won't even allow the neutrality tag to stand. This is not civil behavior on your part and I think you can imagine why it might upset me. I suggest, respectfully, that you are edit warring, not me. I have asked you to explain why Capital Research Center research should be excluded and you refuse even to engage in a discussion of the topic. You simply say it's partisan and bogus without providing any proof whatsoever. Again, I ask you to provide evidence why the think tank's research should not be allowed on Wikipedia. This discussion is long overdue. Syntacticus (talk) 08:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Second caution

Please stop edit warring to insert disputed content into the encyclopedia. These two edits[12][13] insert a WP:BLP violation by repeating scandalous allegations from an unreliable source. In addition, they continue to promote the position of the Capital Research Center, which you seem to be affiliated with, and your edit summary accusing another editor of "bad faith" is a WP:AGF violation. Stop this, or you will likely be blocked from further editing the encyclopedia. Wikidemon (talk) 09:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD

An article you recently created has been listed for a deletion discussion. [[14]]Bali ultimate (talk) 13:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Removing AfD tags is against policy. Don't do it again.Bali ultimate (talk) 02:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

I saw your message on my talk page, but am unable to find the request at mediation. If you could give me a link , I'd be pleased as I would like to see this resolved for you and believe you should be entitled to be heard on it.Die4Dixie (talk) 02:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Not sure what to tell you. There were so many blanks to fill in on the form. Working on it. Syntacticus (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Understand that I would ( and do often) object to things that are left leaning and biased. I ( who am sympathetic but not in agreement with you) think you might want to step back for a minute and figure what will best get your goals met. Pissing contests on the talk pages won't help your cause. All they have to do is not accept your request and it will never get heard. Piss them off and they will never accept. Vicious cycle. Ease up a little, take it easy . This project doesn't have to be built in one day.Die4Dixie (talk) 03:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern but am I just supposed to sit back and take all the abuse and invective hurled at me? They're already pissed off and I suspect were that way from the moment they were born. I have requested mediation: is that not the correct step to take? Syntacticus (talk) 03:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely, but we cannot make them accept mediation.[15] ( see random Stuff)Building relationships here sometimes takes some time, and we all have rough patches. Approach Wikidemon ( who used to be Wikidemo) and talk to him without name calling, apologize for the misunderstanding which doesn't mean you are sorry, but rather you are sorry for the sad state of affairs as they stand. You will find him to be fairly reasonable when approached this way. Everyone is difficult when things degenerate to what we have. Die4Dixie (talk) 03:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your concern here,[16] I recently learned myself that you aren't supposed to ask questions, argue, etc., on the "request" part of the request for mediation because the mediators might give up and decide that the parties are not ready. It's best to keep your comments within the "accept" or "reject" section, and handle anything more complicated than that on the talk page of the request. Once mediation opens it is a lot more flexible and free-form, but still it's best to stick to content matters that the mediators can help negotiate, not editor behavior problems that are supposed to be handled somewhere else. I'm no expert but that's what I surmise. You might want to move your comments to the talk page for that reason, or else try to make peace enough that everyone will sit down and start talking about the article instead of each other. I hope this helps. Wikidemon (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

It's all bewildering, like a Kafka novel. Surprisingly bureaucratic. Must go to bed now. Thanks and good night. Syntacticus (talk) 07:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

ANI

A user who has attempted to say you are Vadum has been the subject of an ANI report by myself. This si a violation of WP policy , and a serious one.Die4Dixie (talk) 23:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up but I'm not sure I follow you completely. I saw that but wasn't aware it's against the rules to try to identify an editor. Although I've been on Wikipedia since 2006 I've never taken a dispute as far as I have with the ACORN article and it has never been as nasty as this. Things like the User Check process were previously unknown to me (and I'm still not sure I understand it fully). What happens now? Syntacticus (talk) 06:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Outing is expressly prohibited and speculation about the identity of a user is also forbidden and a premanent blockable offense. Unfortunately, you have made few friends, so Admins might be reluctant to act appropriately in your case. You need do nothing but watch. Comment if you feel like it, or just let it go. Yhe user in question also nominated one of the article that you created for deletion, gaming the system because of disputes with you elsewhere to cause you grief and make you do the work of defending it. This triple with his refusal to enter mediation would show that he has a personal problem with you and might need to pick some other part of the project to work on, but that is just my opinion.Die4Dixie (talk) 06:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks again. Where might I find the WP policy on outing? I'd never heard of it before, though I suppose it makes sense. I don't think I have to do a lot of work to defend the Cloward-Piven Strategy article you're referring to but maybe I should do something. Syntacticus (talk) 06:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

[17]. The whole guideline applies here as his intention is to harrass you.Die4Dixie (talk) 06:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, WP:OUTING (if you hear of a policy or common idea, try typing it in all uppercase like that and chances are somebody has created a shortcut). It is one of the most serious policy violations on Wikipedia. I'll take a look with an open mind about what's going on. Cheers, Wikidemon (talk) 07:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Now look at that Syntacticus. You have an opportunity to change the dynamics here and build some bridges. Because I have brought this to your attention does not mean I condoen everything that has been going on on ACORN. You should really step back and examine this whole situation and see if there is any thing to take away from it. Wikidemon didn't say he would agree with me, but that he would look into it, which is all anyone can askDie4Dixie (talk) 07:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks to both of you then. Syntacticus (talk) 07:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

THe check user allows an admin with the check user priveledges to see the IP addresses that a user has edited from. A check user could reveal that I edit from two Ip addresses, or that I user my id and make an edit, and then log out to agree with myself in a content dispute doing the agreement from an anon IP. It is a way to make sure that users don't abuse the consensus building dynamic. If you are associated, or have ever edited form a computer owned by Capital research, I do urge you to reveal that up front. I hate to look stupid after I've gone to bat for you. If you do, that's ok. And it doesn't mean that you can't edit the articles in question, but it means that your edits will have to pass a certain muster for POV issues.Die4Dixie (talk) 07:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

If it's true I urge you to come clean, then make more friends around here. That doesn't mean revealing anything you don't want to reveal, just being straightforward about things. Wikipedia gives second and third and fourth chances to people who get off on the wrong foot as long as they're sincere and trying. In one of my proudest moments I caught a high-up at American Apparel editing their articles to downplay reports of some very weird sexual behavior within the company. Once we cleared the air we got things in order to everyone's satisfaction. If it's just a coincidence, mistake, false allegation, or something explainable (e.g. you're a friend of someone who happened to be in the office or using someone else's computer), it's best to clear the air on that too. I can't speak for everyone here but personally I would be happy to be Wikipedia friends with anyone from anywhere. I've had a very interesting if slight Wikipedia interaction with the real-world Ted Frank, for example. Wikidemon (talk) 08:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I have nothing to confess. I will try to be more polite in my dealings with other editors. Thanks. Syntacticus (talk) 04:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough - I'll look forward to editing the encyclopedia with you in the future. And knock on wood, we won't call each other any more names.... Cheers, Wikidemon (talk) 11:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Piven

Bad assumption.Bali ultimate (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Then it's a good thing I didn't make such an assumption yet. Please proceed with stating your objections on the appropriate page. Syntacticus (talk) 01:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

You failed to act and I noticed WP deletion policy allows me to delete the tag so it's gone. [[18]] Syntacticus (talk) 05:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Deletion

There's no conflict. There are three deletion processes, all discussed in WP:DELETION: speedy deletion WP:CSD, proposed deletion WP:PROD, and deletion discussion WP:AFD. I repeatedly urged you to read the tag itself because it has all of the information needed to understand the procedure. If in doubt, ask. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for mediation not accepted

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More reverting involving CRC

Really, i deleted 5+ external links, all of them innapropriate per WP:EL and you described me as running "amok" me as "mischievous" and implied i was doing something contentious or innapropriate and make threats? By all means, do what you have to do. But I think you're pursuing the wrong course, one that will not make that article better. Why leave an irrelvant link farm? I can see good arguments, both using common sense and policy, against it, and no good ones for it. You can reply here or on talk of the relevant page, though i won't take kindly to more attacks.Bali ultimate (talk) 01:23, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

ANI

I modified my 1st comment, as in retrospect it seemed ambiguous.Die4Dixie (talk) 06:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters violated WP:OUTING

{{helpme}} Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters has violated WP:OUTING after being warned about same. He should be blocked permanently. Have I followed the correct procedure by reporting this here: [[19]]?. Syntacticus (talk) 23:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

• I would say so. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:02, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, just wait it out. If nothing happens, try asking an admin directly (no, I'm not an admin). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

ACORN

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

Just a friendly reminder.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 13:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you an admin? Why didn't you give a warning to Bali ultimate whose behavior was the same: [[20]]? Syntacticus (talk) 02:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

No, Syntacticus, I'm not an admin (other wise my user page would disclose this). The "warning" [your words, not mine] was as I said a "friendly reminder" to let you know, that you can be blocked by this rule. I wasn't sure if you're aware of this but your response proves me right so in the future try to keep this rule in mind when you revert. And no, I didn't give this "warning" (as you call it) to Bali Ultimate since he is aware of this 3 revert rule (as you should and now I now you where before my last edit) and wasn't even close to it. I don't have double standards so I checked.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

No one is blocked for 3RR until they've been warned. One warning is usually considered sufficient. I note that you were warned once before, on this page, back in July. Don't expect further warnings.   Will Beback  talk  03:29, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

• By my count Bali had the same number of reverts in that time period. But nothing happened to him. Double standard. Syntacticus (talk) 03:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Please point them out to me.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 03:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

• If you look at the edit history for ACORN you see that Bali reverted me at least twice in the same period of time. Maybe it wasn't obvious because they weren't straight reverts. Little bits here and there kept getting changed along the way and the "undo" button wasn't used by him. Syntacticus (talk) 04:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

"twice" is not close to WP:3RR. You should read this simple rule and stay familiar with it. It is very simple as you should know. Below I summarized what I see in that time period (and give a da** about who is right or wrong or whatever):

Bali's edits in that time period:

1st - left your edit and edited it = no rv.

2nd - rmd. "daily kos"-link. Blogs are not a reliable sorce.

3rd - converted "youtube hotlink" into a ref (which you're capable to do so by yourself as I saw from earlier edits from you way back in summer).

4th - correcting of misnaming of "acorn's pac" to "Acorn Votes".

5th - (edit summary): "removes reduncancy on acorn votes/pac; was in article up above all along".

6th - removes "acorn affiliate" which is not' sourced.

7 th - undo of your undo of the same (and still unsourced).

Which one's do you consider close to a WP:3rr violation?

Waiting for a response, --The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 04:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

If you think there has been a violation of 3RR then you can file a notice at WP:3RRN.   Will Beback  talk  04:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

There wasn't. Neither by him/her nor by some one else, but s/he was at 3rr and I tried to be nice and gave a courtesy "warning" so s/he doesn't go over (3rr) and get blocked. But it seems like the editor didn't take it that way.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 04:41, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

PS: I play by the rules but if other editors don't or just dismiss them I couldn't care less. They might get "hurt" not me.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 04:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

• I see you're still there commenting but not replying besides drifting to your personal opinion at another talk page and not replying to any question that doesn't fit your "needs". Bye.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 05:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

• • I see that Wikipedia is chuck full of conspiracy theorists. Actually, I dealt with something else, got tired, and then went to bed. If you're going to give me attitude, I'm not going to bother responding. Bye. Syntacticus (talk) 05:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Ayn Rand

Hi, I've filed an RfM on Ayn Rand, including as parties only those who've recently edited the article. However, as you've commented on talk, you might want to be involved too. If so, please add your name to the list of parties at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Ayn Rand. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 02:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Hummingbird

I can't take the credit for it. I stole it from someone — I think it was Giano. :-) SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 00:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

New Arbitration Request

A request for arbitration has been filed with the Arbitration Committee that lists you as a party. The Arbitration Committee requires that all parties listed in an arbitration must be notified of the aribtration. You can review the request at [21]. If you are unfamiliar with arbitration on Wikipedia, please refer to Wikipedia:Arbitration. Idag (talk) 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Stop Personal Attacks at Talk:Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now

These types of comments [22], [23], [24] violate the wikipedia policy against personal attacks. Repeated violations of this policy can results in blocks from being able to edit. Focus on the content, not the contributor. thanks, --guyzero | talk 22:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: Talk:Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't do this

This isn't appropriate. Disagree with people. Vehemently if you must. If you think someone's a problem editor, don't clog article talk pages with it, and don't do ridiculous things like speculate as to the mental health of those who disagree with you. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 01:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ayn Rand

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ayn Rand/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ayn Rand/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Mailer Diablo 00:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ayn Rand arbitration evidence

Please make note of the message posted on the evidence talk page regarding the need for supporting evidence. This is a general courtesy note being left for all editors who have submitted evidence in the case. Be well, --Vassyana (talk) 07:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Ayn Rand arbitration

This is a courtesy note to all editors who have submitted evidence. Some contributions to the evidence page have been moved to the evidence talk page, per the prior notice given. General comments, observations, analysis and so forth should be posted to the evidence talk page and workshop pages. Main evidence page contributions need to be supported by linked evidence. Material moved to, or posted on, the arbitration case talk pages will still be noted and taken into account by the arbitrators.

Some portions of evidence moved to the talk page may be appropriate for the main evidence page. In the process of moving material, keeping some material on the main evidence page would have required rewriting the evidence, taking bits clumsily out of context, or otherwise deeply affecting the presentation. Editors should feel free to rewrite and reintroduce such evidence (with supporting links) to the evidence page.

Some submissions remaining on the evidence page still require further supporting evidence. For example, claims about broader pattern of behavior need to be supported by comparable evidence. A paucity of diffs, links only showing some mild infractions, or otherwise weak evidence may result in your assertions being granted much less weight.

I encourage all parties to finalize their evidence and focus on the workshop over the next few days as the case moves towards resolution. If you have any comments, questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. Vassyana (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)