User talk:Coren

Everything okay?

You've been inactive since the start of May. Is everything okay? If you're watching here, check in and let us know you're all right. ;-) Regards, AGK 14:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I am. Real life issues forced me to switch focus for a bit, but I should return to full activity during the weekend. — Coren ^(talk) 22:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Good. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we were getting worried. Good to hear you'll be back soon. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 23:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Excellent; glad to hear it. AGK 10:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

For those of you who did not know: my brief absence was caused by things going right in my real life. I had lost my previous employment due to economic compressions, and had to focus away from Wikipedia while I was reshuffling my schedule and habits around a new job. Thank you all for your concern. — Coren ^(talk) 14:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Peter Hocken

Made changes accordingly! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lastenglishking (talk • contribs) 15:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Mobility Advice Line

I have just submited an article about Mobility Advice Line. My name is Brynn Tudor and I am the Managing Director of the charity. I have submitted the article from our main website which I created. The submited article does not break any copyright laws or break any other law due to myself being the Managing Director of Mobility Advice Line (Registered Charity 1114973).

Any questions please email me or telephone me:

brynn@mobility-advice.org.uk 0121 246 9150

Many thanks

Brynn Tudor Kingtibby (talk) 09:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Please read the guide to requesting and formalizing permission to use copyrighted works on Wikipedia. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with notability guidelines, advertising prohibition and avoid conflicts of interest. — Coren ^(talk) 14:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Voting

Hi Coren. Do you want to be listed as active on all cases you haven't voted on yet or just the ones that haven't entered voting yet? [[Sam Korn]] ^(smoddy) 17:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and good to see you back :-) [[Sam Korn]] ^(smoddy) 17:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to be voting on all open cases today and tomorrow as I catch up with the evidence. You can put me as active on everything that's open, thanks. — Coren ^(talk) 17:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, does this include Ryulong, which has a motion to close? [[Sam Korn]] ^(smoddy) 18:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, give me a minute to take a quick look to see if my vote would be critical on any proposal. — Coren ^(talk) 18:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

No, don't bother— there is no reason to delay closing this case now. — Coren ^(talk) 18:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, I messed up. Lucas Duke (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

G'day Coren

A gigantic boob, the Grand Teton

Hope you're well - I just noticed the arbcom statement about sam, and dropped a note into the talk page about it - I mentioned you by name, I'm afraid, and sort of once again mentioned that I thought you were behaving like a gigantic boob in opposing a sensible, albeit not-really-getting-the-job-done-as-quickly-and-easily-as-you-could type statement. I'm sure you'll take solace from the fact that although this is indeed my heartfelt opinion, I also quite like the phrase 'gigantic boob' and don't need much encouragement to use it :-) cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 05:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Your obsession with lactating glands is well known, really.  :-) I'm sorry if my refusal to start burning crosses and hang a noose doesn't satisfy your thirst for blood, but I will never act "decisively" just for the sake of doing something.

I act according to what I feel is just, to the best of my abilities— never according to what I think people want to see. I'm certain we'd get cheers from the peanut gallery if we tarred and feathered Sam — if only because of schadenfreude — but that wouldn't make it any more fair. — Coren ^(talk) 13:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure you lactate, Coren - and I'll refrain from making a childish pun on 'sucking'. Anywhoo.. I probably should note that I posted this note before your statement was public, but either ways, I'm surprised to see you compare your colleagues' actions to 'burning crosses and hang a noose' - that strikes me as unhelpful and hyperbolic - the actions of a boob. Privatemusings (talk) 00:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes, hyperbole indeed. I would have expected you to recognize the rhetorical technique, given that you are one of its most fervent users. At any rate, and contrary to popular perception, the committee does not unfailingly speak in a single voice — accusations of cabalism notwithstanding — and I disagreed with the committee's choice of word in that statement feeling that it was unduly harsh. There is something to be said about the good of the committee, but I felt that in this case we were distancing ourselves too much from a former colleague despite his recently discovered failings. — Coren ^(talk) 02:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

are we wiki-sparring, Coren? I sort of feel like we are, except you're all squishy.. you know.. like a boob ;-) - I don't really consider myself one given to hyperbole, but perhaps you could give me an example of what you mean - otherwise I'm afraid to me that sort of comes across as 'no you are' (a tried and tested riposte, to be sure!) - I'm certainly not criticising you for speaking your mind (more power to you!), I'm criticising your failure to support a sensible step forward, and also what you then said. You felt the statement was 'unduly harsh' - and you also described your actions as a "refusal to start burning crosses and hang a noose" - your inability to maintain a sense of balance, and your ability to vaguely obfuscate, conflate and confuse courtesy and responsibility are what, in my view, give you a boobish hue. Privatemusings (talk) 02:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)it's to your credit, of course, that you're prepared to chat about this, though perhaps we've covered enough ground now... last word to you if you'd like it.... :-)

It may not be your reason for choosing to act that way, but perhaps you won't mind if I mention that that was what I (for one) wanted to see. At least, not knowing much about the situation, I find your statement calm, balanced and forward-looking. We don't punish, right? ☺Coppertwig (talk) 16:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

It's probably worth nothing noting that I also don't go out of my way to avoid doing things some may agree with. I think it'd be difficult to have any position that everyone would agree with, or disagree with. — Coren ^(talk) 16:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

(Note Much Ado About Nothing#Noting). Well, it might be possible to find a position everyone would disagree with. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Bleh. — Coren ^(talk) 16:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

(←) In my very humble opinion, your statement demonstrates that you've turned out to be an commendably considerate and prudent arbitrator. Markedly well done. — Aitias // discussion 17:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Shrawley & Castlemoreton

Hi, there is no intended duplication. I have created over 30 new stubs within the Villages in Worcestershire category. Until I or somebody gets round to expanding them, they all have essentially the same basic information: infobox, CP template, and opening paragraph. Only the the name of the locality changes. --Kudpung (talk) 09:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia 2

Hello Coren. A few words regarding your support for proposed remedies against me, in the Macedonia 2 case.

First of all, the SPA accusation is untrue. Rlevse wrote "SQRT5P1D2 is a Macedonia-focused single-purposed account", that "has been almost entirely been focused on editing a handful of Macedonia-related articles". As showed here, the vast majority of my article edits are not Macedonia-related. You can verify that yourself.

As for "meatpuppetry", you wrote that I brought "nationalistic supporters in order to subvert and destroy the editorial process", which is also not true. I'm not aware if you read all the facts. Anyway, one neutral public message, isn't "canvassing". Not to mention that in the same message, I condemn nationalism (I requested "no sarissas, the referee will show you a red card"; that means "be rational and leave nationalism outside of the field", as sarissas were weapons that ancient Macedonians took pride in). I also wrote that ChrisO's actions were not made "according to the regulations on neutrality and naming by using credible sources, such as academic ones". I condemned nationalism and asked for conformance to the regulations on neutrality, thus the accusations are unjustifiable.

In addition, as you can read in my response to Horologium, Wikipedia is not isolated from the rest of the Internet. Various blogs and forums reported about ChrisO's actions. Many added their nationalistic overtones, like "Macedonia is ours" and asked for support. Even TV stations reported about it! Is ChrisO the one to blame? Nobody is responsible for what others do and I certainly have nothing to do with what others may did.

If you have the time and want to examine the facts more closely, please do. Should you have any questions, please leave me a message. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 16:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Mykayhlo Luchnik and Gergely Boros

1) FYI. Mykhaylo Luchnik and Mykola Zaichenkov are two different people, but won medals in the same events because they are teammates. This is common in canoe sprint events. The two references I have listed prove it. Chris (talk) 22:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

2) FYI. Gergely Boros and Gergely Gyertyános are two different people, but won medals in the same events because they are teammates. This is common in canoe sprint events. The two references I have listed prove it. Chris (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: York Toros

I am part of the York Toros organization and decided to create a York Toros page on Wiki... The organization has deep roots in to hockey in Toronto dating back to the WHA... Feel free to contact me if you have further concerns regarding the York Toros arcticle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spattni (talk • contribs) 02:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

About Lost in Blue (game)

There is a BAND called Lost in Blue, they've been around at least 5 years longer than the video game. Since "Lost in Blue" goes straight to the game, I made "Lost in Blue (game)" and copied all the info from the original site to there.

After that, I changed the "Lost in Blue" site to a redirect with links to the band and the game, but all these random bots or people deleted my entries and reverted everything back to the way it was, even though I didn't do anything wrong! Wikipedia is confusing enough for me as it is, how many people/robots do I have to ask/explain this to??1999blacklist666 (talk) 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren, just thought I'd let you know I'm going to help this guy out. dottydotdot (talk) 21:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Renaming the articles

Hi,

I now edited the Tour section of Deep Purple, added full infos about Purple's 2 tours... I wanted to rename Rapture of the Deep Tour and name it Rapture of the Deep World Tour, as well as I wanted to rename In Rock Tour --->> In Rock World Tour. I didn't know how to rename the articles, thus I created new article In Rock World Tour, and copied/pasted content from In Rock Tour...

Why to rename??? Deep Purple has done tens of tours for 40 years of their career. some of them were particular tours (e.g Deep Purple European Tour, or Deep Purple Mexican Tour 1994 (which included only 3 shows and came up as the warm-up tour for the new guitarist Steve Morse).... this was what I wanted to say about particular/special tours. BUT everytime Deep Purple releases a new album, they go on a WORLD TOUR. e.g In Rock World Tour, Rapture of the Deep World Tour. This is why I wanted to rename those articles, please delete the previous articles called just Rapture of the Deep Tour... As you know, there's a difference between ordinary/special/particular tour and world tour...

Thanks for understanding :) btw, you can view the article AC/DC's Black Ice World Tour, it's called WORLD TOUR as well.

Kikonishvili (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Your note

Hi Coren, thanks for your note. If you could ask a bureaucrat to do it, that would be fine by me. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 10:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

SB

Re [1]. I'm puzzled as to how you can say "there is no suggestion that he has not acted as an arbitrator with diligence and neutrality during his tenure". I think it is entirely obvious that his votes during Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Geogre-William_M._Connolley were not neutral, and indeed invalid. I invite your further comment William M. Connolley (talk) 19:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, an (admittedly cursory) inspection shows that he's voted both slightly in a direction consistent with his previous identity's spats and slightly in directions opposite them depending on the case. Given than none of his votes have been pivotal in any of the decisions, and that they are not egregiously biased, I'm willing to extend to him the same presumption that I hope everyone gives to all arbitrators: that we are all doing our best to be objective, neutral and fair.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have recused, but I also don't think he has displayed any significant bias nor campaigned "behind the scenes" to affect decisions any more than you would expect from each of us.

The short of it: I think he has simply honestly and sincerely attempted to turn over a leaf, but ended up doing it the wrong way. — Coren ^(talk) 21:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Good Design Award

Hi, I edited the page so that it complies with guidelines of Wiki. Thanks