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etymology of the name Temujin, spelling of Yesugei
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There should be a note that the origin/meaning of the name is unclear, and is not definitively linked to the root temür. This is mentioned by Man (2004) p68 (indeed he believes it is unlikely that the name has any relation to this root) and Weatherford (2004) p15 suggests it comes from the Mongolian verb Temul. Both authors (and others) do agree however that Temujin was the name of a recently defeated rival chieftain (possibly taken captive by Yesugei). As a side note, it would be nice to standardize the spelling of "Yesugei". This article has "Yesükhei", with a link to "Yesugay" that redirects to "Yesugui". I have no grounds to prefer one spelling over another, but consistency would be nice.
There should be a note that the origin/meaning of the name is unclear, and is not definitively linked to the root temür. This is mentioned by Man (2004) p68 (indeed he believes it is unlikely that the name has any relation to this root) and Weatherford (2004) p15 suggests it comes from the Mongolian verb Temul. Both authors (and others) do agree however that Temujin was the name of a recently defeated rival chieftain (possibly taken captive by Yesugei). As a side note, it would be nice to standardize the spelling of "Yesugei". This article has "Yesükhei", with a link to "Yesugay" that redirects to "Yesugui". I have no grounds to prefer one spelling over another, but consistency would be nice.
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Ambiguous phrase in opening sentence is confusing.

The opening sentence describes Genghis Khan as the "Mongol founder, Khan, ...". But it's clear from the Lineage section that a Mongol confederation existed earlier, and, obviously, Mongols as an ethnic group already existed. I think the sentence was intended to be read as "founder, Khan, and ... emperor of the Mongol Empire." The wordiness causes the sentence to be read as a sequence of independent noun phrases, and not as a sequence of nouns collectively modified by the "of the Mongol Empire" phrase.

I suggest rewording it simply as "...was the founder, Khan (ruler) and Khagen (emperor) of the Mongol Empire, the largest contiguous empire in history." The point about the title of Khagen being posthumous doesn't need to be made in the opening paragraph. Alternatively, it might read "was the founder of the Mongol empire, the largest .... He held the title of Khan (ruler) and was posthumously declared Khagen (emperor)."

24.34.15.213 (talk) 13:26, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Gary F.[reply]

Maybe someone tried to make a point about his ethnicity, but I agree it made the sentence look strange. Hopefully fixed. Yaan (talk) 13:32, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Central Asia or Asia?

We have in the opening section, "During his life, the Mongol Empire eventually occupied a substantial portion of Central Asia" - am I right in thinking that "a substantial portion of Asia" would closer to the truth?--Annielogue (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please help with Mongol/Tatar invasions articles

Can you please discuss/help, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mongol_Empire#Excellent_article_and_general_mongol_invasion_conquest_articles 97.118.116.250 (talk) 12:22, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Found some vandalism:

"Later Mongol chronicles connect Genghis' death with a Tangut princess taken as war booty. One chronicle from the early 17th century even relates that the princess hid a small pair of pliers inside her vagina, and hurt the Great Khan so badly that he died."

It's not vandalism. Look it up in the source. Yaan (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Martha Stewart had her dog by the name of Genghis Khan blown up by a freak propane/ dogkennel accident on Tuesday, March 10th 2009 in Pennsylvannia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.251.185.178 (talk) 21:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Rampart of Genghis Khan"

Can anyone find any information about this? It's in the latest Times World Atlas in northern Mongolia, but google has no hits for it? Does anyone know anything about it? -mattbuck (Talk) 13:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

whither the mongols?

Nowhere does this explain why the mongols needed to invade everywhere else. My understanding is that this was because the had desertified there lands by chopping down the trees and over grazing?

What trees? The steppes are relatively treeless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.223.153 (talk) 21:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arslan?

There was not a notable general named Arslan. In Conn Igguldon's fictional novels he gives that name to the father of Jelme, but Jelme's fathers name was Jarchi'udai and he wa snot a noted general as well...

I think people need to seperate fiction from fact in this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.86.145.42 (talk) 16:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Činggis Qaγan

what is this? An attempt at reconstructing the Middle Mongolian form? A transliteration from the Mongolian script, amounting to the mvf form of the term? Do we have any source for it? --dab (𒁳) 12:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is a transcription from the Mongolian script. The original words are shown in the infobox. I think the language code should be mon, not mvf. Yaan (talk) 12:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Origins/Etymology of the name Temujin

There should be a note that the origin/meaning of the name is unclear, and is not definitively linked to the root temür. This is mentioned by Man (2004) p68 (indeed he believes it is unlikely that the name has any relation to this root) and Weatherford (2004) p15 suggests it comes from the Mongolian verb Temul. Both authors (and others) do agree however that Temujin was the name of a recently defeated rival chieftain (possibly taken captive by Yesugei). As a side note, it would be nice to standardize the spelling of "Yesugei". This article has "Yesükhei", with a link to "Yesugay" that redirects to "Yesugui". I have no grounds to prefer one spelling over another, but consistency would be nice. Bclare (talk) 05:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]