Talk:Brett Favre

Add - in the score of the first 2008 NFL game

The text about Favre's first Jets game in 2008 currently is:

beating the Miami Dolphins 20 14.

This should be changed to 20-14. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kainhofer (talk • contribs) 00:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done Thank you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 00:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

75.9.86.15 (talk) 19:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)Where's the part where Favre gave Packer plays to their opponents? Very classy!

1st TD on 4th down over 10 yards

Favre's debut included a first: It was the first touchdown by him over 10 yards on a 4th down play. The score was from 22 yards out. Here's the source document discussing it on NFL Network: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80aaed6b  Not done

I thought perhaps it could be included along with the opening game comments against Miami. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I really think it is kind of trivial for this page. I would think that it may be better off over at List of career achievements by Brett Favre. Just my 2 cents. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 02:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

In the scheme of things, it's pretty irrelevant. Just one touchdown pass of hundreds.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

No offense, but Favre had a concussion against the New York Giants back in 2003 and threw a 20 some yard TD pass on a fourth down play (to Driver I recall) without getting clearance to return to the game from doctors. The one against Miami wasn't a first, despite what that article says. I'm not going to bother to prove it wrong since it has been decided not to include that piece of info, but just something to chew on. If anyone wants to look it up themselves thats up to them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.44.5.211 (talk) 00:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I looked it up. You are right. There was a game in 2004 (not 2003) against the Giants where Favre suffered a concussion and then came back in to throw a touchdown. I remember that game. I just didn't recall that it was a 4th down TD pass. Here's the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/04/sports/football/04packers.html

Also, that game was noteworthy enough to include in the article. In the 2004-2006 section, there wasn't any mention of the the 2004 season (rather only personal tradegy info). So it helps to gain perspective of how Favre was performing on the field that season. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 19:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Brett Favre picture

I don't know if this has been discussed, but if there is a picture of Brett Favre as a Jet available, can somebody put that up for the main profile image? --Reezy (talk) 07:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

There are currently no free images of Brett as a Jet, as no contributors have uploaded any. We will have to wait for some nice person to upload one until it can be used. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 07:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Ehh, I was curious, so I did some searching on Flickr and found a few freely licensed photos as Favre as a Jet (Image:Brett Favre as Jet1-edit.JPG & Image:Favre as Jet1-edit.jpg) and I have added them. They aren't the best, but there definitely not the worst. Hope you guys like them. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

   This picture doesn't even show his face!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.103.191 (talk) 14:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC) 

The picture in use at the moment (12/3/2008) is horrible. It shows the back of his body and helmet and could be a photo of any football player.Hanksummers (talk) 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

We're gonna just change it back to a Packers one once he'd retired...►Chris Nelson^Holla! 15:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I believe that since Mr. Favre has retired and the infobox has gone gray, the picture should of him as a member of a team that a majority of people know him from. That would necessitate a picture of him as a Packer. He was a member of that community for far longer than he was a Jet--we've even named a street after him.PTPLauthor (talk) 03:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Since he spent the vast majority of his successful career as at Green Bay, the picture should be changed to reflect that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.212.34.35 (talk) 05:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Add Aaron Rodgers to the list

I noticed that in the Consecutive starts streak section Aaron Rodgers was not listed as a back up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmk2010 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done Stylteralmaldo (talk) 02:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

LOL Ya forgot to change the number 11 to 12 though. <snicker> Done now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk • contribs) 12:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Preceding QB

I'm noticing an edit war starting to erupt over whether Chad Pennington or Kellen Clemens was the last starting QB before Favre. Can each side explain why they're right on the talk page here? After checking the season game logs I'm pretty sure i have a definitive answer, but will hold off judgment. Wizardman 15:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

The Chad Pennington wiki page says the following under "2007":

"Clemens replaced Pennington for the final game of the season against the Chiefs."

If that is in fact true, technically, Clemons was the last starter before Favre took over. The flip side is that Pennington was the starter most of the 2007 season. Clemons wasn't "ordained" the starter heading into the 2008 season as it was to be a competition until Favre was aquired. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 19:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

To make it easier for everyone to understand, Pennington was traded to Miami simply to free up salary cap room to enable the Jets to afford to have Favre on their roster. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 05:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Football article?

i found this: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20060409/ai_n16161474 which lists the author as Brett Favre. is this the same Favre that's in this article? Reply on my talk page please. - -The Spooky One (talk to me) 04:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Use a picture of him as a Packer

The main picture of Favre should be a packer...that's the team that everyone associates him with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.108 (talk) 19:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The picture thats there is most current. If he should be signed by the Minnesota Vikings and a free image could be found, it would be appropriate to use that image then. Just because he was a Packer for so long doesn't necessarily mean that thats the image that should be used. If fact, the best image that could be used would be of him not wearing a team jersey at all. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 05:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Revenge?

On the Jim Rome Show [1] today they were talking about an allegation that Favre gave the Detroit Lions some tips on how to defend against the Packers offense in their recent game on September 14th. Matt Millen supposedly was the go-between. Favre denies it, and regardless, the Lions still lost, and Millen was canned 10 days later. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 01:20, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

This story is gaining traction. The saga continues between Thompson and Favre aftermath. Here's some links discussing it. If this back and forth continues, it might need it's own section. But for now, I'll just include the links here so we can use them later if need be Stylteralmaldo (talk) 19:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC):

NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80bd9fc1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

NFL Network Video: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bda97e

It will be interesting to see if this story picks up steam, like Spygate, or whether it withers and dies. It's not like Favre told the Lions how to beat the Jets or something. It seems unethical, though - but I wonder if there is a rule against it? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 00:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

why would brett favre wanna be a packer??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foreverdcegirl14 (talk • contribs) 06:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

UMMM FIX that his dad was NOT killed in a car crash... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.28.48 (talk) 18:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Pretty must discredited now. Glazer got it WRONG this time and no, it happens all the time and the NFL has no rule against it - even if Favre had done it, which all parties EXCEPT Glazer insist he did not. I get suspicious of the fact there have been 3 attempts to villify Favre "post-Packers" with cell phone conversation allegations - seemingly eminating from the Packer head offices - all three of which have been demonstrated to be false. Minnesota did not tamper, Romo called Favre not the other way around, and Millen and Favre were thinking about sharing a hunting trip, which they often do. Sad, really, that the gullible are so quick to believe rumors, but that's the world today I guess. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 12:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Not the only 3 time MVP

Uh, two other little known players, Jim Brown and Johnny Unitas, are also 3 time AP MVP winners. Favre's distinction is that his are back to back to back, albeit the 3rd one shared. This needs to be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.198.173 (talk) 02:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The following link indicates that Jim Brown and Johnny Unitas only won it twice:

http://www.databasefootball.com/awards/award.htm?a=APMVP

 Not done Stylteralmaldo (talk) 05:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

While Unitas and Jim Brown may have won 3, the article should state that Favre's were consecutive, something nobody else can claim as far as I know. PTPLauthor (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Ted Thompson made a smart move on getting rid of Brett Favre. When are we gonna get rid of Ted Thompson???

Well, i don't know about all of u, but i think the packers have made great progress since brett favre is a jet favre *wink wink* —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foreverdcegirl14 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

this is not a forum. PLEASE DON'T USE IT LIKE IT IS70.245.254.156 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC).

Favre could set mark for wins in different stadiums this week or Dec. 21st

Here's the article:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-4-343/Favre-has-left-the-building--31-of-them--a-winner.html

If he wins at Tennessee or wins Dec. 21st at Seattle, he'll own that record. If he does it, it could be referenced in the article. Stay tuned... Stylteralmaldo (talk) 19:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Brett Favre/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards,--Jackyd101 (talk) 18:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

• It is reasonably well written.

  a (prose): b (MoS):

Prose is OK, a 7/10.

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

• It is broad in its coverage.

  a (major aspects): b (focused):

The personal life section is too short and very messy. It should contain all relevent information written in encyclopedic paragraphs, not stubby individual sentences.--Jackyd101 (talk) 18:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

  a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

• It is stable.

  

• It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

  a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

• Overall:

  a Pass/Fail:

Tense correction

In the Jets section, "With the Jets, Favre plays for a coach (Eric Mangini) who is 15 months younger than he," should be changed to, "With the Jets, Favre played for a coach (Eric Mangini) who is 15 months younger than he," as Eric Mangini is no longer with the Jets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JackieRipper (talk • contribs) 19:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Finally Retired

Does anybody know if Brett Favre is really retiring or just trying a new position when he sai it's, "Time to look in a new direction", or do we not know? Anyway Farve is my favorite QB of all time. The K.O. King (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

• I think Brett has at least two more weeks to have an answer, but I'm not sure absolutely sure about that.--Reezy (talk) 23:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Farve is really, really good, but needs to retire. The K.O. King (talk) 00:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The personal side of me wants him to come back next year to break the all-time starts record at any position. But that's just me. On the subject, I suspect we'll get an answer fairly soon after they announce who will replace Eric Mangini. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, when we get an answer will you tell me what he decides to do? Just in case I miss it. I would greatly appreciate it. The K.O. King (talk) 00:12, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Espn.com, yahoo.com, nfl.com, and every sports section of every major newspaper will report it when he decides. Try those outlets if you want up to the minute news regarding Favre. You can also watch this page and see any new updates of this page. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 00:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. The K.O. King (talk) 00:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Favre's First Pass

I know it's tedious, but I think it should be noted in the article that states that Favre had no completions on his first four attempts, that he did in fact complete a pass to himself, though not to a receiver. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shacktasticness (talk • contribs) 05:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Already in there. The section regarding his time in Atlanta indicates he had four attempts of which none were completed and in the section regarding his time in Green Bay it indicates he completed his first pass to himself.  Done Stylteralmaldo (talk) 14:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Film "Career"

The article could use a mention about his minor role in There's Something About Mary. I would do it, but I figure someone else who knew more about Brett would do a better job.--Ummel (talk) 02:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I would do it, but you need a user name and i refuse to do that.71.255.74.226 (talk) 18:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Personal life

Hi, this is a warning that the personal life information in this article is messy. Any biography that is of GA standard must have at least one well organised paragraph describing the persons life outside of their field for which they are famous or otherwise incorporate that information elsewhere in the text. This information provided in this article is messy, appearing in a sequence of stubby unconnected sentences rather than properly organised paragraphs. As a result, it does not give enough context for the incidents and information that is mentioned. For an example of how such a section might look, see Brian Urlacher and for pointers on how to expand and improve the section, see this guide. If this information is not improved then this article would be unlikely to survive a Good Article Reassessment and may well be delisted in the future. Thanks --Jackyd101 (talk) 10:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Add category:Native American sportspeople

Favre's already included in the "Choctaw People" category; how about adding him to the "Native American sportspeople" category as well? Migisi (talk) 03:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Favre was traded for a third rounder not fourth..someone fix

FAVRE WAS TRADED FOR A THIRD ROUNDER NOT FOURTH..SOMEONE FIX —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.20.162 (talk) 21:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

First, please don't type in all caps; it is very rude. Second, as the article says, Favre was traded for a conditional fourth round pick. The pick turned into a third round pick due to Favre's good performance with the Jets. Also, Green Bay has to send their seventh round pick in 2010 to New York, since Favre retired after one season with New York. Read this. faithless (^speak) 22:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC) Not done

Different Picture

The main picture of Favre has him on the JETS, but I'm pretty sure he is retired for good and will be remembered as a PACKER. I think the photo should reflect that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.13.59 (talk) 03:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I was just thinking the same thing when I came to the talk page to make the request and saw that someone had alraedy done so. My reasons are the same. Since he is retired (again), lets make him a Packer forever.--Jojhutton (talk) 01:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

The jets picture should stay in the infobox for 2 reasons: 1. It's a more recent picture. 2. It's more clear and better than the other pictures. maybe someone can crop this image to just Favre, since the image is him in neither a Jets or a Packers jersey, it's just neuteral. RF23 (talk) 15:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I was surprised as well to see that Favre's main picture shows him as a Jet. Now that Favre is actually retired, there does not seem to be any major benefit to having the picture be slightly more recent. Also, unless he starts a commentator career or something, it seems to me that it would be silly for him to be in anything other than a football jersey, unless necessary. Favre will clearly be remembered as a Packer, and I agree that the photo should show him as one. For example, no one would consider using a picture of Babe Ruth as a Boston Brave, although maybe the 70 year gap means this is not a fair comparison. Itoaseik (talk) 03:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Or we can have him as just a picture without a jersey i want him to retire as a packer and i think that he should have a picture with a suit on a red carpet.--Cjm555 (talk) 01:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

that image was not licensed and was deleted. We need Free images, not copyright infringing ones. I'll probably crop the image i mentioned above tommorow and re-up it. Then put it in the infobox. RF23 (talk) 01:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Here Here since his release by the jets this is only right. --Rulzar (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Vikings

Favre is in negotiations to come back with the Vikings, and there is no mention of that. What the fuck?

There is no verifiable source indicating there are "negotiations". There are merely media reports that he's meeting with them about that possibility. This isn't Wikinews (or Wikirumors). Wait until something actually happens that affects his biography, and then we can consider adding it here. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 18:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

ESPN reported that Favre is meeting with Brad Childress.stusutcliffe (talk) 21:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

To be clear, ESPN reported only what anonymous sources told them. Nothing verifiable. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

That's great. Perhaps there will be something worthy of mention after such a meeting takes place. A meeting itself is not of encyclopedic value. See WP:RECENT and WP:NOTNEWS. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 23:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

And to prove my point, there are conflicting stories, even from his own agent, so let's not put anything into the encyclopedia until there is a confirmed, verifiable, fact to report that is central to his life story. I've removed the link to other rumors from the article. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

And again. This is why an encyclopedia doesn't report unconfirmed rumors in the news. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it's clearly relevant to mention he was released from the reserve/retired list. I still think the article should mention the ESPN report, it's a full ESPN Article, it would be different if it was an ESPN insider rumour, but it wasn't. Also, how about mentioning the Text to Trent Dilfer? Dilfer reported that Favre intends to stay retired after texting him. I think it's clearly relevant to the article to mention that fact that there were talks of a comeback, wether a comeback actually happens or not. RF23 (talk) 20:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

What's happened thus far is what should be in the article - the media have made constant connections between Favre and the Vikings since his release. Nothing more, nothing less.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 21:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Someone should add that Favre declared that he will stay retired on his personal life section, im not an established user so i can't--Jumpman Jordan (talk) 18:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Stats

Howcome there is no like, year by year statistics for Favre? -Jdhannan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC).

I'm geussing it's because this article is a good article and there is a policy against listing stats in articles, i'm not 100 percent sure on that though... RF23 (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Within the article under achievements, the following is listed which is where you can obtain his year by year stats:

For a complete list, see List of career achievements by Brett Favre

Stylteralmaldo (talk) 00:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

@RF23 Check out WP:NOTSTATS.--Giants27 (c|s) 18:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Mispronounced name

The dictionary pronounciation of Favre's name, shown at the very top of the article as "farv", is incorrect. His name is pronounced as it appears in French: "FAHV-ruh". The fact that most people, and even the media, misprounce it as "farv", is irrelevant (ref: http://californianewswire.com/2008/09/22/CNW1889_204631.php). Ironically, the footnote next to the misprounounced word points to a "Miss Pronounciation" link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaizun (talk • contribs) 22:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

IF you had have clicked on the reference link, you would have realized that they pronounced it "Farv". RF23 (talk) 22:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

64.252.23.219 (talk) 23:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC) Is Brett Favre retired?

Brett Favre has always pronounced his name as if the "V" and the "R" were reversed. It's a similar situation with my surname, the "c" is usually pronounced, but our family doesn't pronounce it, my Grandpa went so far as to have it changed in the local phone directory.PTPLauthor (talk) 03:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

and he played for the minnosota vikings —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh yankee (talk contribs) 23:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Stop making false statements and learn to spell 67.173.48.211 (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)67.173.48.211 (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

statistics

In the main article on top about him it says he is statistically one of the best QBs of all-time. Well, statistically he IS the best QB of all time. So take out the "one of" please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.61.65 (talk) 21:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

It's fine as it is. There are more statistics than just attempts, completions, yards, TDs and INTs. --Smk42 (talk) 23:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Vikings... again

Until it's confirmed, he's still retired. This is not official. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 16:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The keywords in every report for anyone who wants to make a change is "to sign" and "pending physical".--Giants27 (c|s) 18:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Its confirmed, he's been signed, update the page

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/vikings-sign-brett-favre/b52a742d-ebfd-4eff-807b-ba1d8acef18c

Lol, just saw that.--Giants27 (c|s) 18:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Wonder what number Booty gets.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 18:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Wonder who gets the boot, Jackson?--Giants27 (c|s) 18:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

← (edit conflict) Back to semi-protection. Update away (with sources). Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 18:27, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I've got this one...--Giants27 (c|s) 18:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

OMG, DOES FARVE HAVE NO SHAME?! THERE IS A MNF GAME WITH GB VS. MIN, HES GOING TO GET EGGED!!!!!! (I can't wait for that one :D) Enryū6473 Talk 05:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Crave

In the following sentence, the last in the first paragraph, "crave" should be "craving". "Crave" is a verb. If you need a noun, its "craving". I'd fix it, except that the article is locked.

By the time Favre un-retired for the second time, many in the sports world were claiming his legacy as a football player had become overshadowed by his crave for attention. 98.229.96.168 (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2009 (UTC)