User talk:Alexikoua

Map

Hi Alexi, excellent work on the map! A couple of suggestions to improve it (if you feel like it).

• The spacing on some city names (e.g. Onchesmos, Kourestos, etc...) is uneven and makes them hard to read.
• You might want to use a different color for cities that are settlements of the indigenous Chaonians and Dassaretae (e.g. Himara), and different colors for colonies (Epidamnos, Apollonia).
• You might also consider using a larger font and marker for the larger and more important settlements, like Apollonia and Epidamnus, to differentiate them from the smaller ones.

Just some friendly suggestions. Keep up the good work. --Athenean (talk) 05:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hoxha

I see. I did not doubt that such evidence existed, it is after all stated that he had "previous convictions", what I am more interested in is whether these activities were indeed brigandage or "resistance" activities presented as such. Could you point me to some sources (preferably online)? Cheers, Constantine ✍ 22:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Chams

Can you discuss in the talk page before making changes to the article? Aigest (talk) 07:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I saw your proposal, but I think that chams talk page is more appropriate place for it. Other editors who have contributed greatly to this article (eg like BW) might have their opinion. You guys have agreed before on this topic so I don't see it difficult to agree again. Aigest (talk) 09:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

See chams talk page and tell me what you think of my prop? Aigest (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't revert Aigest. I am reporting him to AN3. THis is getting ridiculous. --Athenean (talk) 07:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Alexis the Epirotian (that's for sure)

For your participation to the Epirus related articles some (very) old guys hereby awarding you a fustanela and a membership to the replacement company of the 1/38 Evzone Regiment. Congratulations. --MadFactuarius (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

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Also notes

So far I've checked (i'm ready to provide info, he is verifiable in googlebooks), there are no discrepancies and the facts are clear and comfirmed by other 'meanstream' works. . Actually he is accused only by pro-Albanian sources (Vickers, albania.com). I hardly believe this can be a real accusation.

I see that he adopts a anti-communist approach according to cold-war issues, but the events described are of pre-cold war period (and most important comfirmed.

Summary:

• He describes the deportation of Jews from Albania (1942)-something that is confirmed by a number of books and institutions.
• He describes Mavi (greek resistance group in s. albania)-Ballist (albanian collaborationists) vicious fighting (1942-44), something even the ones that accuse him comfirm [[1]], [[2]].
• About Borova massacre, he does not say that it happened in October 1943 (I have to apologize it was my fault, cos I wrote it accidentaly in the article, so I'm responsible for this discrepancy). There was a reprisal mission by the Germans because of partisan activity in the surrounding region (the Germans had the support of Albanian collaborationists group- the 'Ballists'-, and the Greek group-MAVI- was under a kind of cooparetion with the communists guerrillas that period).
• According to F.p.'s quote, it's not inside the book itself, but

Ruches is mentioned in a number of Epirus related articles in wiki, and the facts he describes are confirmed and in full accordance: Jews deportation from Albania, Mavi-Albanian collaborationist fighting etc.

Sources that confirm Ruches

Apart from the deportation of Jews from Albania, which is described in the article's talk page, about Mavi-Balists conflicts:

• James Pettifer - The Greek Minority in Albanian In the Aftermath of Communism (Conflict Studies Research Center): "fought as a separate resistance group against the Axis in 1943"
• Vickers, Miranda (2002). "in 1944 between the Greek nationalist Northern Epirus Liberation Front and the Albanian nationalist Balli Kombetar partisan fighters."

Some detailed descriptions of N.E.l.f. give these books:

• Costa de Loverdo. Les Maquis rouges des Balkans, 1941-1945.

It mentions the agreement between the Greek-Albanian (Mavi) resistance and the communist Albanians (p. 200) and some conflicts with Ballists (in Libochovo p. 200 and in Gjirokaster p. 248). [[3]] [[4]], [[5]]

I try to explain as simple as I can, that Ruches mentions facts that do not create discrepancies. Because a number of sources doesn't mention MAVI as resistance group it doesn't mean that it was non existent (it had a minor role in Albanian resistance especially at the country;s liberation).

For example, we have plenty of 'mainstream' sources about Greek occupation (1941-1944) that don't say a word about Cham Albanian participation in Greek resistance. Could this mean that it was non-existent? off course not, there are books that are focused on Cham topics and mention the related events.

Would you consider not to base your work on snippet views, as I see here [6] the source say "in 12 February the chiefs of Red bands of Hodja (Enver Hoxha communist leader of FNC so actually partisan groups (sic)) held a meeting in Theologue monastery" what about the conference of MAVI as Ruches says? In the same place same date? Why red bands? Or MAVI was a communist force leaded by a moslem (Hodja)? Man stop with snippet views, at least finds a source which is partially readable Aigest (talk) 07:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Not only Ruches, Pearson too [[7]] p.237. Why do you always make partly filtered researches? Alexikoua (talk) 08:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you didn't get my point, Ruches says one thing while de Loverdo claims the exact opposite(?!). Can't you see that even the sources you say support Ruches are contradictory with him? Man that is hilarious Aigest (talk) 13:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

It would be hilarious if there wasn't an agreement between them mention before in the same sources. About your question I decided not to take part in that debate any more.Alexikoua (talk) 21:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Encyclopedia Britannica and illyria/albania

If you go to http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/12472/Albania you will see that this encyclopedia has a different approach to Illyrians that than the one presented here. I just thought that Encyclopedia Britannica's information would enrich this page. As I see it, most of the information on this page comes from this one author John Wilkes. More sources would improve this page, don't you think? AnnaFabiano (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Hallo and welcome! Since, most of the bibliography presented states that the Illyrian-Albanian continuity is possible but there are also many counterarguments presented in Origin of Albanian, the sentence:

'The northern tribes were slavicised in the course of the Middle Ages, while the Albanians may represent an instance of southern Illyrian (or Thraco-Illyrian) continuity.'

seems to be enough for the lead. The conclusion of certain Illyrian-Albanian continuity in the lead is for sure misleading.Alexikoua (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Ancient Epirus

Hello Alexi! I am afraid I am not really knowledgeable on the subject. What I can see is that, despite the monarch at the top, the federal structure of the League existed below, as the citations in Epirote League show. I also favour Epirus (ancient state) as a title, since it is usually perceived as a unitary state, but perhaps this duality of the monarch/hegemon and the League of Epirote communities ought to be given a bit more emphasis? Regards, and keep up the good work! Constantine ✍ 11:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Hello! Your submission of Epirus (ancient state) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You article

Hey its a fine article, i can work on it when i have the time.What is this dyk ?Megistias (talk) 20:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Epirus (ancient state)

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Wellcome back

Wellcome back you POVish-bad boy. Τρελλάθηκες ε? Τι κάνεις? Έχω μιά υπόνοια ότι ήσουν κάπου στην Ήπειρο αλλά δεν μπορώ να το αποδείξω..--Factuarius (talk) 17:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Mitralexis image

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Indeed, the image is problematic. On the one hand, you have uploaded it under a wrong fair use rationale (it is appropriate only when discussing an artwork/artist). You could try the {{Non-free historic image}} template, but again, the picture may be considered as not necessary to the article, so it may get deleted at some point (I am not an expert on the finer points of copyright). I have however uploaded the photo of Mitralexis himself, with the proper rationales, which should be OK. Constantine ✍ 10:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Fustanella

I wanted to use that 1883 book to confirm some of the details in the article. Another user came to us in IRC over a Greek/Albanian dispute and tried to use sources to flesh information out. I am an idiot when it comes to Greece and Albania, my forte is usually Japan and Eastern Europe. But, if I could help solve a dispute, I will. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 04:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

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Sameis Star trek tribe

Hello i saw an imaginary "Star trek" tribe sameis in chameria related articles.There is no such thing in primary or secondary historical sources.Its made up.I know you did not put it there but what is going on?Megistias (talk) 09:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alexikoua. Thanks and have you a good and productive winter also. I am back also. I have sent you some photos taken during my holidays in Epirus (Konitsa, Nekromanteio, Ioannina, Mouseio kerinon omoiomaton), I hope to like and find them useful, since I am out feel free to use them if you think so. I have more and I am thinking to use them in the Epirus article. Regards, --Factuarius (talk) 14:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Clean up

Hello, could you help me clean this up? Illyrian warfare. I wrote it.Megistias (talk) 16:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Albania Census

Can you please not hurry when making changes. These things tend to be very fragile, and we do not need to rush and make biased moves. We were making very good progress on the talk page. See you there! AnnaFabiano (talk) 11:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Check here

Check this out.Albanian nationalismMegistias (talk) 18:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

How you dare to revert me. --Factuarius (talk) 19:32, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, next time I will use English npov sources. Martin Baldwin Edwards. --Factuarius (talk) 20:00, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

That's POV. Provide source. --Factuarius (talk) 20:17, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Templates for deletion nomination of Template:Northern Epirus

Template:Northern Epirus has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 22:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Your comments have been brought up at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Canvassing by user Alexikoua. You may want to explain why you think admin J Milburn (talk · contribs) is a sockpuppet. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 18:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the note. You would do best to explain the situation at ANI- I intend to take no further action, but there may be repercussions (such as checkusers) from the thread. J Milburn (talk) 08:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, this kind of issue is simply not my speciality. There is not a lot I can do, I am not certain of how to proceed here. J Milburn (talk) 20:14, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

epirus (region)

can you please weigh in here..? or at least correct the vagenetia part that megistias added the guy cant understand what the source says its quite frustrating adding content or creating that colorcode for the linguistic and religious map and having it deleted because the guy wont sit and read whats added87.202.3.215 (talk) 07:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

and tbh i find it a bit weird to argue over such silliness considering that were generally despite faults goodintentioned users unlike whats going on with the whole templatefordeletion business over in north epirus. so plz just give your opinion on the newlyadded content so we can seriously discuss it the guy doesnt want to discuss at all he even thought that my cabanes reference wasnt good enough becasue it mentioned the illyrians on the title even though i used it to quote the interpretation for a passage from herodotus that cabanes himself names as 'le mariage d'Agariste: les molosses sont grecs'. about the template and the whole north epirus chameria albanians and greeks business the problem here is admins who arent knowledgeable in the matters so they are easily 'convinced' by disruptive tactics the absolute low of wikipedai87.202.3.215 (talk) 07:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

the last time i edited epirus...you might remember me from back when you were writing the greek minority in albania article and i added some content...future perfect at sunrise was an admin here is he still an admin?87.202.3.215 (talk) 07:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I remember you. Seems there was kind of misunderstanding in the article, apart from specific minor points that needed some kind of rewording, according to my view.

I will take a closer look, especially in Vagenetia, but I kindly ask you to initiate discussion with User:Megistias, since you see that there are not serious disagreements and a consensus can be easily reached.Alexikoua (talk) 07:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation.

I saw your ANI report about Sarandioti/Alarichus, but I have filed an SPI here [8]. Please feel free to transfer your evidence there, it is a better place for that than ANI. Regards. --Athenean (talk) 05:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sarandioti.... well you have a good evidence I am wondering the same thing cheers. Danger^Mouse (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Albanian nationalism

Yes, I got it. See my comment in the talk page, please understand that for many Albanians and scholars Hodja is seen as a traitor of Albanian nationalism, now it comes as a champion of Albanian nationalism. Aigest (talk) 13:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

IMO communist regime continued only Illyrian theory (others were neglected Pelasgians, Etruscians, Greater Albania). I say continued because the Illyrian theory was always among Albanians since end of XIXth century. Hoxha just continued where other Albanian rulers left before him. We can say simply what the reference itself says, that during communist regime, other theories were were forgotten or at least left aside official history, while the communist regime was focused on Albanian Illyrian continuity(1)(2)(3) The references point clear to directions Hoxha gave to scholars.

The problem here come from the still non definition of the article. What do we have in mind with Albanian nationalism? While Albanian-Illyrian is a scientific matter (true or not, whatever in the end it remains scientific) the others theories (Pelasgians etc) are pure speculative. And in the case of Albanian communist regime where only Illyrians were propagandized and the other theories were left aside that had more or less a scientific impact in Albania itself, keeping nationalist fervor low. Only after communist regime these hypothesis came along with Greater Albania concept again (though not generally supported by scholars again, of which the majority of them is "old school" forged in communist regime) Aigest (talk) 08:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The Daco-Thracian hypothesis (it began in end XIX and first half of XX century) was always rejected by Albanians:) not a new thing for communist regime to do:). As I said above the Illyrian case is a scientific one and the propaganda related to it is understandable as it happened in every country where "glorious past" was evoked. The main concern here Albanian nationalism and its ideologies as a specific case. Propagandizing "only" Illyrians and neglecting other theories and concepts including Greater Albania, the communist regime was more restrictive on Albanian nationalist fervor than the others before and after him. The difficulties in this come from the main idea of the article. None of the wiki articles related to nationalism in any country has such a form. In its form is a mix of different topics. Where it does want to point? Aigest (talk) 08:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes but communist regime effect on Albanian nationalism as a whole, are seen as having a restriction impact. See the cited Vickers on talk page for that issue Aigest (talk) 10:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

No I didn't mean that. My comment was in general as a whole, while focused on Illyrian-Albanian continuity he left aside other nationalistic ideologies and fantasies. None dared to speak of Kosovo or even Chams issue, let Greater Abania, none spoke on Pelasgians, let etruscans and ancient greeks. Comparing actual situation with what happened during communist regime, it is clear that the communist regime had a restriction impact on nationalism fervor than the latest governments, which actually do nothing to propagate but not even do nothing to stop, a thing which communists kept under control. Hope I was clear this time Aigest (talk) 11:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Zappas Olympics

I was looking forward to reading it when complete. Well done! :) Constantine ✍ 21:44, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

PS, I think such an interesting article ought to be present on the front page, so I nominated it for the DYK. Cheers, 22:47, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Good point. There are two good options: "that the Zappas Olympics (1875 games medal pictured)..." and include the medal picture, or "that the Zappas Olympics, named after Evangelis Zappas (pictured)..." and include Zappas' statue. Personally, I'd prefer the former, but you are the creator. Constantine ✍ 08:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Autonomous Epirus flag

A better (and larger) version of the A.H. flag you uploaded some time ago can be found here (it's my work and it's freeware). Regards. 98.142.208.51 (talk) 00:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Νο Ι am just another sock of Sarandioti badly envying the new one. --Factuarius (talk) 07:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Write Sarandioti. That's the most possible combination. Next write Hitler. Next write Nitze. Next write satan. Next write A.Crowely. Next write Golden Dawn. ..How much money do you have? --Factuarius (talk) 08:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't really have a problem either way. No Saradioti's sock seems to have problem with WP recently. --Factuarius (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup

Wanna help clean this up and improve it?[9]Megistias (talk) 17:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[[10]]

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SoWhy 13:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello Alexi! Can you please join the discussion here, there is a user who insists on a very peculiar definition of "international" for the Zappas Olympics, being intent on designating them as the first truly international Olympics. I admit I am getting very annoyed by him (είναι άσχετος από ελληνική ιστορία και προσπαθεί να μου την πει κι από πάνω). Could you, as the article's creator, take a look and provide a neutral opinion? Thanks, Constantine ✍ 23:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Albanians origin

Ok, I understand you point about Albanian history. I agree with you. However I would remove Albanian nationalism at all, until it gets properly arranged. As in the form it has now, it is a mess, and has allot of material left out. —Anna Comnena (talk) 16:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Great! —Anna Comnena (talk) 16:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

population exchange

hey alex im the epirus-north epirus guy i might bring some sources later since i dont have them here right now but i wanted to talk about the removal...the 1mil figure sounds too high if i remember correctly around 1.1 out of 1.2 mil greek orthodox were exhanged from ASIA MINOR and THRACE...the rest 100,000 came from bulgaria the soviet union etc. and the greek orthodox population of asia minor was about 1.5mil so probably 400,000 greeks or somewhat less if we take other factors into account so perhaps 350-400 were killed before the exchange thats still a really high number but less than half of what the sentence claimed87.202.46.157 (talk) 02:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC) the 200,000 that i said before was ONLY about the pontians these guys did really suffer a lot87.202.46.157 (talk) 02:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC) 4000 years of Greek Epirus by Sakellariou? Are you serious? This is a purely nationalist source.