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Multiple association of converting Simplified Chinese to Traditional Chinese

Severely needs copyediting and referencing. May be of interest to you. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 00:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Collaborate together?

I would like to offer you to collaborate with me in a project (literally a film article improvement in sub-page). I chose you since your Not One Less was damn perfect. I chose a film to be improved, Spirited Away. I looking for a good answer. Sincerely, World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 07:56, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I would love to help out, although I may not be able to do much more than copyediting. I'm leaving in less than 24 hours for a conference and I'll be away for several days, but after that I'll get my hands on a copy of the movie and watch it, and try to take a closer look at the article. Do you have any more information on what specific improvements you plan to make? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 17:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Yup, I do. I'm planning to improve all the sections; Production, Release, Reception, Cast and characters, Plot and all. We can take WP:FA articles as inspiration, like The Simpsons Movie since it's an computer-animated film too. World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 07:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Great, so, we're together now? World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 04:29, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Bot

In my opinion, it's time to ask for a bot trial run. There may be unknown issues, but the template has already been deprecated, and the bot isn't making substantive changes. --69.225.5.183 (talk) 06:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you referring to ZhBot? I've never done an BRFA before and I kind of just assumed I was supposed to wait until someone from BAG responded. If you think it's appropriate, though, I guess I could send a message/nudge to one of them. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 07:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not a BAG member. It's just my opinion that at this point if there are unresolved issues with the bot they will show up through a trial run. The bot doesn't impact existing policy usage with the templates, you discussed the issue with other editors at the template, the bot is dealing with an already deprecated template, you're not wading into the simp/trad issue, although you know it exists, and your request has been posted for a while, so my thinking is it's time to ask for a trial run, post the trial run for evaluation and move on to the bot. Wikipedia gets sloppy with old templates. Bots that clean up this area are, imo, appropriate and useful. --69.225.5.183 (talk) 10:27, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Good luck with your bot, by the way. I think operating bots that do finite, tedious tasks, cleaning up messes lying around, is very useful for the encyclopedia. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 05:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Tedious

This dude is beginning to get on my neves. He's been at it since July and has only one talk page contribution. Does he ever come up with reasons for his reverts and pushing? Somewhere? Could someone at least reprimand him (again) for not marking these major changes as "minor"? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 06:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Star Fox 64

Can you please explain why Star Fox 64 wasn't named Starwing 64 in Europe and Australia please? As I've read on numerous occasions it was due to a request from George Lucas as Starwing sounded like Star Wars.

I'll try and dig out a notable article.--Guru Larry (talk) 02:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

If you can find a source to verify this, you can include it...speculation, however, can't be used in Wikipedia articles. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I know it was written in the Official UK Nintendo Magazine as the reason, BUT they got the whole Star Vox thing wrong, so not 100% if that would count.--Guru Larry (talk) 02:23, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

What's oil spill?什麼是油外洩?

What does oil spill really mean? It must be caused by ships-sinking? and...does the oil mean Petroleum(really does?) here? Please answer in English and Chinese,thanks. I planed to create this article in Chinese.

• 中文：油外泄到底是什麽意思呢？一定是沉船造成的吗？那...这里的油指的是石油吗(真的是吗?)？请用中文跟英文回答，谢谢。我打算创建这文章的中文版。

--俠刀行 (talk) 15:24, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

The dictionary http://www.nciku.com gives "漏油". I'm not sure how to explain it... oil does really refer to petroleum, but it's not necessary when a ship sinks, it's usually just when an oil tanker has a leak and spills lots of oil into the sea. The result of an oil spill is an oil slick (浮油).

中文 （有点难讲）： 网上词典http://www.nciku.com把"oil spill"翻译成“漏油“，不知道这个对不对。 “油”就指石油，可是漏油不必是船下沉的现象，而一般来说可以表示船有种漏洞而把它的石油倒往大海。。。 漏油的后果（在水上漂浮的油）就叫浮油，我觉得。 rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 17:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

• So,I'll name it zh:油外泄 in Chinese,alright? 那，我就取名zh:油外泄，好吗？--俠刀行 (talk) 06:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, I think that should be fine. 感谢你为zh-wiki的贡献！ rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 14:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

• 建立完成，你把英語版連上中文吧。--俠刀行 (talk) 15:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: WikiBirthday

Thanks for the note. I had just realized it myself not too long before you mentioned it. It looks like you just celebrated your first year about two months ago, so belated congratulations to you, too. Here's to many more, for both of us! -- Transity^{(talk • contribs)} 19:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Rjanag, I have reported you at the ANI here based on what I believe was grossly uncivil behavior during the Epeefleche/Shells affair. This is not a personal attack, and I deeply respect your other prolific contributions. But I also detested your behavior in this case, and I'm compelled to act. Regards - Draeco (talk) 06:13, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the WikiBirthday greeting. — ERcheck (talk) 06:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Because I can

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A little insignificant has given you a LOLipop! This horrible pun and delicious candy promotes WikiLove and tells the world how low you will stoop for the sake of humor. Spread WikiLove by giving someone else a lollipop, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the unrelenting joy of lollipops by adding {{subst:Lollipop}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!

^_^ A little insignificant ^{Talk to me!} _{(I have candy!)} 11:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

An idiom?

I'll grant you credit for giving an authentic reply, but you gave no indication of the literal translation (which I added, having checked my French/English dictionary) of the OP's phrase. If your translation is idiomatic, in which part/s of the francophone world is it used? Your answer would be helpful on the RD thread. -- Deborahjay (talk) 09:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

replied there rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 14:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Rjanag Arbitration

You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Rjanag and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Requesting Arbitration;
• Wikipedia:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, --Epeefleche (talk) 21:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rjanag. It seems that you have been helpfully reflecting on the appropriateness of some of your behaviour and been willing to apologise. I would suggest that you consider apologising to others to whom you have been un-civil, and specifically undertaking that you will not use your powers as an Admin either:

1. To delete articles expect in strict conformity to the WP Deletion policies (so no 5-minute deletions, no vote-stacking, and no "delete and salt" when the AfD decision was "delete")
2. To harrass or threaten editors with whom you are in disagreement.

Best wishes NBeale (talk) 08:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I owe you no apology, your participation regarding your article has been entirely inappropriate and you have repeatedly refused to actually learn the rules that you repeatedly cite incorrectly. 5-minute deletions are not a violation of any rule when they follow the criteria for speedy deletion; no "vote-stacking" ever happened and you need to stop making offensive accusations like that with no evidence; "delete and salt" is appropriate for repeatedly and disruptively re-created articles (see WP:SALT) and I had already received requests from two editors in good standing to do so. Editors who care about nothing other than promoting themselves are useless to this project and should not be welcome here. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 22:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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Getting beyond this wikidrama

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Re:一個都不能少

我是看過那部電影，不過你說的en:Not One Less#Themes這東西。我不明白你的意思，什麼地方有問題呢？--俠刀行 (talk) 08:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

是第一个段落的 The version of the film released overseas ends with a series of title cards in English, the last of which reads, "Each year, poverty forces one million children in China to leave school. Through the help of donations, about 15% of these children return to school." （”每年，10万个孩子因为凭琼二离开校园。 亏得人的捐赠， 15%能回学校“）。 好像中国的版本没有这个。 rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

oops

Haven't felt this stupid in a long time now. DGG ( talk ) 02:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

re:RFA

Hi, just replied to you over at my talkpage (in case you miss it and think I am ignoring you!) - Dumelow (talk) 00:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikibirthday

Thanks!Autarch (talk) 13:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

You indicated non-free images were in my user space.

It was my understanding that a sub-page in my user space was only for private editing before it was released to the public. Because of that, rather than try to learn all of the formatting requirements, I copied the text of a book I knew of (Da Vinci Code), so that I could replace the text with text appropriate for my book. The only other images were a photo of the Catacombs of Paris that I submitted as my work and was free to use according to Wiki rules. The other image was the book cover image for which the copyright owner emailed the license to "permissions" earlier today.

Can you tell me which images you are refferring to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsonsol (talk • contribs) 23:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

The saltine cracker DYK

That AfD is a pretty clear snowball keep that's due to be closed in a few hours anyway. Why not just close the AfD? Tim Song (talk) 23:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

It didn't seem clear enough to me, given that it's remained up for 6 days. And regardless, the point is we shouldn't be promoting hooks while they're at AfD—particularly, a user should not be unilaterally "verifying" and promoting a hook while it's the subject of a pages-long discussion. (Keep in mind that Allen3 not just verified the article, but selected one of the four hooks--which already seem to have been subject to disagreement.) As for closing the AfD, no thank you, I've already seen how upset some people get when someone accidentally closes an AfD a couple hours early. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

By the way, the hook is now included in both Template:Did you know/Queue/4 and Template talk:Did you know; I take it that's an oversight? Since the article was kept at DYK, I would suggest removing it from the latter. Cheers, Melchoir (talk) 02:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Nice bot. Benjwong (talk) 01:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! (Since it uses replace.py, the code was actually already written for me, I just run it in the command line.) Let me know if you see it doing anything wrong! Best, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 01:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

You know how to implement bots? Hmm. You think that replace-thingie could run on Navajo-wiki to replace simple apostrophes (') by glottal-stop-signs (ʼ)? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 01:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I think replace.py should work on any wiki. (For what it's worth, I didn't really design this bot; the pywikipedia package is a bunch of functions that other people have already written, so I could just take advantage of them without actually having to know how bots really work behind-the-scenes ;) .) It's relatively easy to use (getting python and pywikipedia installed is probably harder than actually using it), and if you want I could help you get it set up. I think you would have to create a bot account on Navajo-wiki with your N account as the operator...not sure how their BRFA process works over there.

Another good person to talk to would be User:Kwamikagami, who does a lot of these style replacements (IPA fixes, etc.) on en-wiki, although I think he does it using AWB. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 04:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Request some personal opinion before being skinned alive by nationalists...

First of all, I'm extremely suprised that you can promote July 2009 Ürümqi riots into GA status given the controversial nature of the topic, but since you did it, and you are more familiar with the bureaucracy of Wikipedia, I would like some personal opinions on the future prospects of the articles I'm working on. The articles in question are:

• Battle of Chosin Reservoir
• Battle of Unsan
• Battle of Triangle Hill

Given that none of the articles above are suffering from edit wars, I have been pondering for months on whether to promote these three articles to higher status, but I'm concerned about the nature of the topic since they are Korean War topics involving battles between US and China.

My main concerns are:

• Copyediting, since English is not my first language. (but recent edits seems to be working on the problem)
• WP:RS propaganda clause on Chinese sources, even when Chinese sources are referenced in the right context or the Chinese side of the story has been verified on Western sources.
• Unnecessary attentions may bring in edit wars between Chinese ultranationalist, US Army vets and US Marine fans...and it appears I'm the only one monitoring the contents right now.

I was thinking on consulting the US, Korean and Chinese military history task forces, but given the sensitive nature of the topic, I would perfer a neutral outsider opinion first. Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. Jim101 (talk) 03:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey Jim! I think it should definitely be possible, and all these articles look well-developed. The single most important thing, I think, is having a lot of experienced editors paying attention to the article....the main reason the Urumqi riots article worked out, for example, was that there were enough of us there to shout down all the crazies when they tried to mess up the article. If it's just you against a constant stream of POV-pushers, it will be hard to hold them back without violating 3RR and other rules, plus you'll just get tired (like me, I've almost given up on the South Korea article); but if you have support, it's easier to deal with the problem editors.

For experienced editors who are knowledgeable about Korea topics and good at maintaining NPOV in controversial articles, I would suggest Baeksu, Mtd2006, and Caspian blue...if you could get any of them helping out with the articles, that would probably help a lot. For the China side of things, there's all the familiar editors from Urumqi riots... Colipon, Ohconfucius, Benlisquare, etc.

Copyediting shouldn't be a big problem; just once the overall structure of the article is figured out and all the content is ready, you can invite one or two good copyeditors to read through it right before you start the GA review. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 04:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll see what I can do. Jim101 (talk) 04:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

One more thing, how to resolve conflicts involving the WP:RS propaganda clause on Chinese sources? Jim101 (talk) 13:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

CSD F8

I see now that John Anstis' portrait fitted this. However, I use Twinkle, and its wording for F8 is "bit-for-bit identical", which misled me somewhat (I was thinking it might be for people who'd uploaded it to both, for example). I also not that F8 itself just says identical - which I agree is relevant here (clearly the same painting). I don't quite know why I'm telling you this, but hey. - Jarry1250 ^{[Humorous? Discuss.]} 10:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: your latest message

I remain somewhat confused about your message. You continue to suggest that THB300K.jpg is a non-free image. I would agree it was when I first posted it. But as soon as you sent your fist message, I contacted the copyright owner who did submit to license using your own language template to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Now you claim it doesn't exist. The site suggests that if the license is not received within 7 days, it will be deleted. Yet, if it is not in the commons, that would mean it was deleted on the same day it was posted... even though the license was emailed on the same day.

Re: the article being written by me. I am no longer the owner of the book. I was the author, but I am not the owner, so suggesting it as that is not accurate. But I do see validity to the point about writing an article about a book I authored could be taken the wrong way, I will ask someone else to write the article.

You did not respond to my other question. Is a sub-page open for scrutiny by people such as yourself? I mentioned that I thought it was a practice page that was not visible to anyone else (The reason I cut and paste another article to easer the pain of my formatting ignorance. Is it my area or must I be concerned that you are looking at every step I take.

Please answer this question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsonsol (talk • contribs) 15:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

中式英語

我看了文章後，开始乱掉了。"I want a soup(×)" 以及 "There are a lot of shoe(×)."这些句子都是错误的。那正确的说法是什麽？English:I confused after reading this article.I want a soup and There are a lot of shoe are both wrong.So what's the correct sentense?--俠刀行 (talk) 18:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• (Sorry, I am currently on my friend's computer and she doesn't have Chinese installed, so only English for now!)
• "There are a lot of shoe (x)" should be "There are a lot of shoes".
• "I want a soup" is more difficult. Technically, soup is a mass noun and should be "I want some soup". (Just like Chinese, you have to say wo yao yidian shui(我要一点汤) or yi bei shui(一杯水), never yi ge shui(x)一个水(×).) But, the truth is different. In conversation, "a soup" can mean a cup/bowl of soup. For example, in a restaurant you can say "I want a sandwich and a soup" (which literally means, "I want a sandwich and a cup/bowl of soup". So really, "I want a soup" should not be marked incorrect. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)