Talk:Genghis Khan

Please help with Mongol/Tatar invasions articles

Can you please discuss/help, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mongol_Empire#Excellent_article_and_general_mongol_invasion_conquest_articles 97.118.116.250 (talk) 12:22, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

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Found some vandalism:

"Later Mongol chronicles connect Genghis' death with a Tangut princess taken as war booty. One chronicle from the early 17th century even relates that the princess hid a small pair of pliers inside her vagina, and hurt the Great Khan so badly that he died."

It's not vandalism. Look it up in the source. Yaan (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Ha! That's awesome..... Flash man999 talk Not logged in 203.189.4.118 (talk) 02:01, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Martha Stewart had her dog by the name of Genghis Khan blown up by a freak propane/ dogkennel accident on Tuesday, March 10th 2009 in Pennsylvannia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.251.185.178 (talk) 21:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Činggis Qaγan

what is this? An attempt at reconstructing the Middle Mongolian form? A transliteration from the Mongolian script, amounting to the mvf form of the term? Do we have any source for it? --dab (𒁳) 12:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

It is a transcription from the Mongolian script. The original words are shown in the infobox. I think the language code should be mon, not mvf. Yaan (talk) 12:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Origins/Etymology of the name Temujin

There should be a note that the origin/meaning of the name is unclear, and is not definitively linked to the root temür. This is mentioned by Man (2004) p68 (indeed he believes it is unlikely that the name has any relation to this root) and Weatherford (2004) p15 suggests it comes from the Mongolian verb Temul. Both authors (and others) do agree however that Temujin was the name of a recently defeated rival chieftain (possibly taken captive by Yesugei). As a side note, it would be nice to standardize the spelling of "Yesugei". This article has "Yesükhei", with a link to "Yesugay" that redirects to "Yesugui". I have no grounds to prefer one spelling over another, but consistency would be nice. Bclare (talk) 05:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Invasion of Khwarezmia

When Genghis Khan became obssesed with the Khwarezmian Empire. I don't get it. Why will the persians and Khwarezmians destroy genghis khan diplomats. But the invasion was just revenge of avenging his caravan and envoys.

A 200,000 force marched to Modern Uzbekistan and took it. They just marched there and took. Did the Khwarezmians just give it do the Mongols by running south? Then Genghis Khan thinks that Khwarezmia is just giving him their land. But even though he won the march and raid into the land, he was still wrong. Eventually his armies reached Urgench and just ran through it and burned and sacked it to the ground. Then he just fought and wiped out region after region in the Khwarezmian Empire.

The Shah had no matter in the invasion and fled west until his empire was added to the Mongol Empire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esamhk12 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Ogg playback?

The computer I am currently on, a school one, does not have an Ogg Vorbis codec. Would it be possible for Ogg playback function built into Wikipedia to be available on every page? Clicking on the 'listen' link just lets you download the .ogg file, which isn't what 'listen' generally means. Flash man999 Sorry, I'm not logged in... 203.189.4.118 (talk) 01:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

My edit on perceptions section

Some of the sentences in that section is embarrasingly glamorous. I neutralized the section little bit and some of the sentences were duplicate or had no source. I just neutralized some embarrasing glamor from that section. Trueshow111 (talk) 21:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Another thing is the extremely long and (gramatically) incorrect sentance written about the large mongolian population in outer Mongolia. I don't know who wrote it, so no offence to whoever did, but I'd like someone to rewrite it. Plus I don't see any reference there to any information about statues or mongolian populations. Erufailon42 (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Which sentence exactly do yo mean? I think the whole section could be shorter - the main points should be: positive perceptions discouraged during MPR (so much that a general secretary lost his job over it), nowadays very popular with money bills, statues, stuff being renamed and whatnot. I don't really see the source problem. Info on Mongolia's demography can be found in the Mongolia article, the statues mentioned, except the one from 1962, have pictures and you can't really miss or avoid them if you are visiting Mongolia. Yaan (talk) 12:41, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Birth date?

Was he born c.1162 or in 1162? Both dates are mentioned in the article and should be reconciled. Caeruleancentaur (talk) 18:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

It's just not known exactly. Most commonly, 1155, 1162 and 1167 are thought to be possible birth years, with 1162 being the most likely one. Yaan (talk) 13:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Typos - please fix

Hi, I"m sorry if I don't do this correctly - but I saw two typos in the third paragraph: "militay" and "scipt" which should be "military" and "script" respectively. {Beyond his great militay accomplishments, Genghis Khan also advanced the Mongol Empire in other ways. He decreed the adoption of the Uyghur scipt

genghis khan used terror a lot in his times of killing people and he always asked them if they wanted to surrender and if they didnt then he would kill them and take them as slaves he has a very famous catch phrase you would say " surrender or forever hold your peace" another catch phrase that he had was " surrender or be killed" he always asked to surrender. thankyou —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.159.5 (talk) 20:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't think either of these phrases can be found in the Secret History of the Mongols. Where is it from? Yaan (talk) 12:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

DOB

Under "Birth" it says "Temüjin was born in 1162". The footnote indicates that there is doubt about this (as do plenty of other sources). In this case, the phrasing is too definite. The sentence needs changing to read something like "Temüjin was born around 1162", or, better still, let's give a plausible date range. The presence of a footnote that readers may or may not bother to read is not sufficient in itself. If the date of birth is not exactly known then the main text needs to be clear about that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.131.153 (talk) 21:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

There is not really a date range, only three possible birth years. I think the word "probably" is the most appropriate one to use here. Yaan (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Name and spelling variations

This section needs some cleanup and formatting, beyond that can you add Temüjin spelling in Turkic languages as "Temuçin" (this is actually turkish, other turkic languages my have other variations too) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.165.176.130 (talk) 14:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Genghis Khan is not white!

Genghis Khan is 100% Asian