User talk:Moni3

The thing that makes you exceptional, if you are at all, is inevitably that which must also make you lonely.
—Lorraine Hansberry

Anne Lister

Hi Moni; ever heard of Anne Lister? In the UK, we've had two programmes about her life, both broadcast on 1 June on BBC2. I don't know if your TV stations in Fla will show them, but you may be able to view them via BBC iPlayer. One was a 90-minute drama starring Maxine Peake, titled "The Secret Diaries of Miss Anne Lister"; details and iPlayer link here. The other was a 60-min documentary "Revealing Anne Lister", presented by Sue Perkins, details and iPlayer link here. Note how the BBC recommend Wikipedia for further reading! --Redrose64 (talk) 14:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I wrote this section as a part of a mighty behomoth of an article. Yes, I've heard of her. She kept dirty diaries. I was intrigued when I read about her. Trollop. --Moni3 (talk) 14:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Madonna LEAD

Hello Moni, how are you? I used the lead taht you suggested in the article, it looks so much better. Would you take a look? Thank you so much for your comment. One thing I did was, I did not use any number in the X Number of charts thig, I just kept it ambiguous, since most of Madonna's songs have been worldwide hits. Is it fine? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that lead is excellent. I agree with your suggestions. --Moni3 (talk) 11:47, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Singin' and Swingin' and Gettin' Merry Like Christmas

Hey ya, Moni--I think you should take down the tag at the top of your talk page; it seems to me that you're pretty much back. I'm very gratified about that, let me tell you. I have an excellent way you can solidify your return, and that's to copyedit the above Maya Angelou article. It's been through one failed FAC, and it was suggested that I have it copyedited. I'd be very honored if you took a crack at it. Thanks very very much. Christine (talk) 05:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't want to be back. I want to be able to walk out of here whenever I feel like it. This place drives me nuts sometimes and it likes to think it has me by the symbolic balls. And that template really...doesn't...convince it to leave me alone...Hey! I'm complicated!

That doesn't mean I won't look at the article, though. --Moni3 (talk) 11:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Uh huh huh huh. You said balls. APK whisper in my ear 12:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Cornholio. That must be the funniest 23 minutes of television in the history of broadcast media. Are you threatening me? Genius. --Moni3 (talk) 12:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I postponed listening to Jack Johnson for that? Yeesh. Gad, Moni, what you said reminds me of my family; no matter how hard I try, I can't escape 'em. Moving thousands of miles away didn't even help. Hmm, maybe that says something about this place, eh? As my siblings would say, Oh, shut the hell up, Christine! Thanks for looking at the article, I appreciate it, B&B notwithstanding. Christine (talk) 21:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Once More, with Feeling

Hello, I've reviewed Once More, with Feeling (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) and have a couple of comments/queries at the review page. --BelovedFreak 23:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I've passed it—well done! --BelovedFreak 17:09, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

And there was much rejoicing! --Moni3 (talk) 17:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Moni, congratulations. What a marvelous thing to focus on a light, sweet, and full-of-light article, especially after recent experiences. I've never been a big fan of Buffy, but I read the article and truly enjoyed it. Most of the TV my husband and I currently watch is downloaded from the internet, and I think I'm going to suggest that we check it out. I suspect we'll like it, since we both respect Josh Whedon--he adores Firefly and I was sincerely disappointed in the cancellation of Dollhouse. (Did you know that Whedon's dad Tom Whedon was a writer on Sesame Street in its early days?) I'm so happy for you! Christine (talk) 04:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

This is one of those times where I'm surprised everyone on Wikipedia who ever passed by my talk page can't read my mind like my life is as simple as a white plate. I wish I could say I concentrated on this article because it was light and fun, and there were fun parts of this episode, but my emotional spasticity in the past few months was summarized in this episode. All the songs and the storyline were a televised portrayal of the characters hurtling toward an inevitable implosion, kind of like my life was speeding along the tracks with me calling out to the conductor in vain to stop it.

At any rate, I'm very glad you enjoyed it. I'm notoriously late to the parties I carry on. I just started watching Buffy in March, and I think I saw this episode some time in May. All the time I spent on my wikibreak not editing? Buffy. Was good times. I haven't seen Angel, Firefly, or Dollhouse. Are Tara and Willow in these? Hm, well I guess I'll have to struggle through them somehow. --Moni3 (talk) 12:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure that it was horribly presumptuous of me to just assume that's why you tackled this article, but that's me. I'm sure you could make all kinds of assumptions about my pet articles, and why I can go between Sesame Street articles and Maya Angelou. Wee--Elmo to childhood rape and back again! The discussion below makes me think of how I can solve my longstanding problems with images to go with The Wiggles. But alas, The Guys aren't as sexy as Buffy, this hot Anthony Field video notwithstanding, so I probably wouldn't get the assistance I require. No, sorry, T&W aren't in Firefly or Dollhouse, although Whedon uses Jewel Staite and Alan Tudyk, both major players in Firefly, in minor roles in Dollhouse. I have a feeling you'd like Dollhouse. Christine (talk) 20:43, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Childhood rape? What the Jesus? What article are you editing with that in it? --Moni3 (talk) 00:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, silly. Well, I'm not actively editing it currently, but as you know, I'm slowly improving all Maya Angelou-themed articles. Christine (talk) 03:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, I knew that, but somehow your comment translated in my head as that article led you to editing the article on child rape. In literature it's brutal. With statistics and psychology it opens another realm in the brain...one of those I might not be able to find my way back out of. --Moni3 (talk) 11:52, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Sweetie, please do not even go towards the child rape article. I don't think I can handle another Moni3-existential crisis. ;) Christine (talk) 13:22, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

That, sadly, was nothing. --Moni3 (talk) 13:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm supposed to be on a break at the moment, but I just wanted to say what a great job you did with this article, specifically because I'd entertained the notion myself of punching it up—at some vague, undefined point in the future that would probably have never arrived. :-) You did a much better job than I would have. Do you intend to tackle any of the other episodes? One of the most lauded, "The Body", is particularly lacking (if you don't plan to, I'll stick that on my get-around-to-one-day list). One last thing, before you take OMwF to FAC (if that's your intention), it's worth considering whether, as a musical, it’s a better candidate than most other TV episode articles for the inclusion of a fair use video clip. Wikipedia is in a unique position to outstrip the dead tree encyclopaedias by adapting to improving web technology; it would be a shame if our best articles didn't begin to reflect that. I don't have a specific sequence in mind, but one that has commentary about how the music works with the visuals to convey a specific theme is your best bet. For an example of something like that, see what I threw together for American Beauty here. It shouldn't be too difficult to identify something similar for "Once More, with Feeling". All the best, Steve ^T • C 08:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Steve, wow, thank you very much for taking the time to leave your message here. I would very much like to add a fair use image of Hinton Battle in costume, some music snippets, and if at all possible, a video. I'm embarrassingly ignorant of how to accomplish this, however. I have a list of what I might be able to justify in the way of fair use rationales on the talk page of the sandbox I used to write the article. You'll note in the actual sandbox I've moved on to another episode. I intend to take on "The Body" when I've posted that one. Suggestions are always welcome and helpful. I should start writing "The Body" by next week. --Moni3 (talk) 12:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Video clips are still remarkably hard to make (in that you have to rip content, trim it, transcode it, yadda yadda) but Steve and I figured out some effective methods for our film FAs, and Erik wrote up a pretty good page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Multimedia. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 12:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Gah! You guys always make me learn things. That sucks! --Moni3 (talk) 12:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

On the plus side, once you've done it the first time it becomes a lot easier. It took me about a week to get the American Beauty clip right, but now we've written those instructions up it'll be easier the next time. Far harder, I think, will be crafting cast iron fair-use rationales. Looking at the potentials (ha) here, I think several of those images wouldn't get through FAC scrutiny, even with additional commentary, as their full import can be adequately described through words alone. But a good bet would be a headshot of Sweet if detail can be found about the production aspects of his prosthetic make-up, to add to the design requirement that he be a "slick" demon rather than an ugly one. For a music clip, you've wisely highlighted "Something to Sing About"; the "tuneful yet chaotic" nature, the quick changes in key and tempo, and the emotional impact are all aspects that could be difficult to fully grasp from reading the text alone. However, a video clip of "Walk Through the Fire" at the moment the fire engine passes is probably a non-starter. A difficult shot to set up, an emotional high point too, but easily described in text. For videos, maximising their utility is the way to go. You'll want sound to go along with the video, so select one that illustrates several aspects of the production, perhaps something representative of other scenes in the episode; that way, the clip will offer a broader insight than a text description of the scene alone will provide. You can also armour the clip by wrapping it in several rationales, especially ones that illustrate emotional intent. With that in mind, I suggest the bedroom sequence from "Under Your Spell". It highlights aspects of Amber Benson's voice that have been specifically commented upon: her range, the "heavenly and salacious" quality of it, etc. It also helps the reader better understand its reprise later in the episode, where its joyous nature is replaced by a sadder reading, as Tara realises she really has been under Willow's spell (some additional secondary commentary might be needed for that). You also have this as an example of the explicitness of the portrayal of their relationship (as noted, unusual on TV at the time), of Tara's "quieter strength coming out in front of Willow's showy demonstrations of powerful magic" and the comment about "Willow's diminished role [in the song] representing the series' silence about [her] descent into addiction and darkness through the rest of the season." The reason I suggested the bedroom portion of the song is because it highlights each of these aspects and more; its celebrated eroticism during the cunnilingus portion is something that could be key here. How can that be adequately described in words? It can't, so you have yourself a rationale. :-) Steve ^T • C 13:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I think a sound file of Tara's song would be appropriate. I could justify the sound, but I'm not enthusiastic about embedding a video of that scene. Oh! I was actually thinking of replacing the shot at the top of the article to the title card reading "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" in red lettering in front of the full moon, which was done special for this episode, and perhaps the video could be the cast singing "Understand we go hand in hand / But we walk alone in fear / (Tell me) Where do we go from here?" as they hold hands then fling them away. I like that idea better. --Moni3 (talk) 14:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Moni, could we have Steve and you in that clearing with dappled sunlight and deer? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:31, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

That train has left the station, and by station, I mean an attempt to take a ball to the head for the team so Malleus' Xi Xi's page wasn't ickified by a vandal's lurid assertions. However, if Steve looks like Alyson Hannigan or Amber Benson, this could be a possibility. Like a whole goddamn Disney backlot. --Moni3 (talk) 13:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Alas, the closest I get is repeated use of a James Marsters headshot as an forum/messageboard avatar when I was younger. :-) I can do a mean Darla impression though... Steve ^T • C 13:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Haha. Ew. Ok. Looking either like Spike or Darla, I'll take your help in media for the episode article. Copy edits, suggestions, anything. Thanks again. --Moni3 (talk) 13:59, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

In the zone

Can someone tell me how to make a BlackBerry go, in exchange for this? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

BTW, [1] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

If you offered this in exchange, your chances will double. APK whisper in my ear 02:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Put this on him: sold! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:21, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Haha. You crazy kids. I don't ever know what you're talking about with your newfangled rock and roll and 90% naked men. --Moni3 (talk) 12:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Right. And who are you calling a "kid"? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

All the editors making connections between fruit juice and 90% naked men. --Moni3 (talk) 12:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I have nothing to do with the 90% part; I have been known to confiscate and hide the other 10%. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:50, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I bet you have a collection, some abnormally large 4th dimension closet in your house with thousands of pairs of briefs, boxers, thongs, and bananahammocks stapled to the walls. --Moni3 (talk) 12:52, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Good idea (but thongs are passe- now it's boy shorts-- they prevent the mosquitos from biting your ass in the hammock. Not that I've been bitten in years, and my hammock is in storage). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Whatever. I know your museum goes back decades. I bet you have a couple of Mormon undergarments in there too. SandyGeorgia's Incredible Museum of Men's Undergarments You Have To See it to Believe It! --Moni3 (talk) 13:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Seeing is believing. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Look what I found....

Talk:Lady Gaga/GA2... :)

I am not hugely familiar so any other ideas on comprehensiveness grounds? Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Ha. Mrs. Moni and I had to start the "It's Ok to Love Lady Gaga and Still Be Over 30 and a Feminist (Not the Andrea Dworkin Kind)" Club. We have pretty cool meetings. Do you think Legolas needs assistance or do you need another set of eyes for the review? --Moni3 (talk) 11:50, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, well one doesn't have to be strictly on one side or the other. It isn't looking too bad as a GA candidate article goes and Legolas is pretty quick to address concerns (I often copyedit as I go). Whatever takes your fancy really as either apporach would be helpful into giving it a good buff'n' boot polish. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Not far from the mark ...

... but I am what I am. "You have good reasons to make your decision and you've been treated unfairly by admins who have no respect for content or human discourse. But you're also stubborn and I think you've got your feelings very hurt by this system." I'm not going to change to fit wikipedia, and if it can't accommodate me, then I'm sure it will do just fine without me. I think there are tipping points in history, and I think this is one for wikipedia. Malleus Fatuorum 02:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I think your history of being treated poorly by admins makes you see these issues with uncharacteristic rigidity, very black and white. There are not only two answers. I did not suggest you change. I suggested you accept the collateral damage that your autoreviewer rights will be taken away a lot when this system is implemented. A bit of a slap for you each time another admin learns he can't capriciously take away your rights when you disagree. Learning is hard, and if you decide to accept the autoreviewer rights, it won't be pretty on your talk page, but I didn't think you minded that so much. --Moni3 (talk) 03:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

brainwash required

Thanks for the image Moni. Fainites ^barleyscribs 14:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Dude-- talk about bad visuals. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

You know it's true. That shit makes me angry. Let's not mince words. --Moni3 (talk) 14:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Or go to a day spa. [2] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha. I'd never seen that. That was disturbing and hilarious on many levels. --Moni3 (talk) 14:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

You're not suggesting that just a tube of ........ but no. No. Fainites ^barleyscribs 14:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I won't speculate on the reasons for her behavior or what might change it. Simply, harassing other editors to intimidate them into quitting is pure fucking bullshit. --Moni3 (talk) 14:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

With or without the tube, happy vaginas would not be socking on Wiki. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:47, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

They'd be singing trite songs on YouTube instead? Some folks clearly have waaayyy too much time on their hands. --Moni3 (talk) 15:25, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Trust you to open a whole new channel of perversion. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Rights

Thank you for the rights update! I appreciate your trust in me! CTJF83 pride 17:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

I thank you too. Does this mean I have to do more work? GroveGuy (talk) 20:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

This isn't an award and I don't need thanks. The autoreviewer system is going to start soon. I'm just trying to make sure people who need this to maintain articles have it. Work as you wish. --Moni3 (talk) 20:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Plots in novels

Hi, Moni3, it seems we both think a recent plot outline is necessary for an article on a novel. At Talk:Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone/GA2#GA_Review and Talk:Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets/GA1, I convinced 2 different reviewers that we needed a consistent approach to the plot summary, otherwise random editors would add too much and probably not too well written. --Philcha (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Heyyy, Philcha. Can you clarify why you've left me a message? Do you want me to weigh in on the discussions? I haven't worked on Harry Potter articles. Not sure what you're looking for. --Moni3 (talk) 15:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

The Harry Potter articles are fine, thanks. I was about to say there's nothing specific at present, then I remembered Talk:Warcraft II/GA1, where the 1st, 2nd and 3rd reviewers (!) are all members of WP:VG. In VG games IMO the base for the reception, publication, etc. is the gameplay (section "Economy and war"), and the 1st reviewer grumbled "Bad, almost game-guide tone ..", but said no more than I showed a couple of cites.

Which is relevant to the hot issue, the position of the Storyline. IMO the reception and publication must immediately follow the gameplay, otherwise the reader loses the thread. That leaves only 2 places for the Storyline, as first or last. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd reviewers want it first, I want it last. Comment at the GA review or here at you Talk page, whichver you prefer. --Philcha (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Sock?

Should we fill out a sock report on EnochBethany for Brucejenner? CTJF83 pride 17:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I've never encountered Brucejenner, but if anyone is flaming on Talk:Homophobia, it's a troll. You can let him babble on and on and talk to take up space, until he actually tries to edit the article again. Otherwise, Holy Christ. --Moni3 (talk) 17:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Moni, could you work on mincing words now and then? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I think I've been quite patient and show quite a bit of forbearance on that talk page, even though I just got told, despite my crappy and feeble 17 FAs, my opinion and experiences are invalid because I'm a homo. It comes with digging chicks, I guess. --Moni3 (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Such is life I guess...we are bound to be the bigger person I guess... CTJF83 pride 18:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

That's Brucejenner; block and ignore it and wait for the next account to surface in four days. Our Glorious Leaders have ruled that he can't be rangeblocked as his IP is too dynamic. – iridescent 23:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You've managed not to encounter Brucejenner before, Moni? Basically if the article has something to do with LBGT-anything, it's fair game for his infinitely large sock drawer. Apparently gays are repulsive and SSM is an oxymoron and a sin. A quick glance at the SPI archive on him could be useful - I'm sure you'll see him again. LadyofShalott 00:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Another reason for me to be all aglow today. --Moni3 (talk) 00:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Someone should have a word with User:FisherQueen because this was just cruel. APK whisper in my ear 03:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

100% unrelated, but I'm sometimes hesitant to post too many sections on talk pages, but what is the policy for moving someone's work form their user subpage, to an article page? User:Fpigulski/Mike Denklau, the user hasn't edited since March, I left a talk page query, but just in case they don't respond, I'd like to know. CTJF83 pride 02:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

At Talk:Clade/Archive 1 and Talk:Clade/Archive 2 there was Mats, a minor adacemic with a major POV. He was banned and indef blocked but that didn't stop him - I wondered if he had some control of the ISP. Since his posts were long and rambling, I realised I could revert him in much less time and effort. However in on of his posts he described an interesting citation, and I realised that Mats had a little of a point and that gave me some control him. I made him a deal - if he added good citations to one section of the page, that when real, but I'd revert any thing else he did. Unfortunately my buddy is too nice and gave Mat a way in/out/whatever so my system was broken and I walked away.

Brucejenner's posts were long and rambling, so we can revert him in much less time and effort. If I'm around, I'll help. --Philcha (talk) 03:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Because it's 1:00 A.M. and I'm awake...

Hi Moooni. Get it? *crickets*

Thanks folks. I'll be here all week. Try the veal. APK whisper in my ear 05:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It could be bunnies.

They're not cute like everybody supposes, you know. They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses. And...wait a minute...what's with all those carrots? What in the world do they need such good eyesight for anyway?

Bunnies. Bunnies... It must be bunnies...--Moni3 (talk) 13:58, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Sheesh, I paused Sarah McLachlin for that?! Yes, that's right; me, listening to the glorious Sarah, which breaks all the stereotypes people have of me. I even went to the Lilith Fair! My husband tells me that becoming a lesbian would be easy; all my interests are already there anyway. And speaking of bunnies: [3] Christine (talk) 21:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

What, behind the rabbit? It is the rabbit! Hey M3, I don't suppose you feel like having a look at I. M. Pei at FAC, do ya? (The rest of you are welcome to have a look, too.) Run away!! Scartol • Tok 22:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I will look at it, Scartol. Give me a couple days. I'll get there before it goes anywhere. --Moni3 (talk) 19:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

No rush. Thanks in advance. Scartol • Tok 19:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit Summary

You know, sometimes I check your contributions just to laugh at your edit summaries. You really crack me up Tex (talk) 19:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

As ever, I'm here to please, and engage in perlocutionary acts although for the most part, edit summaries and whatnot turn out locutionary, showing off my own specific brand of inane babbling. --Moni3 (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

So...many...big...words. Brain hurts. APK whisper in my ear 20:28, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it took me three readings of that damn article to try to figure out what its locutionary author was trying to say. Blah, blah, Gaia. Blah, blah moon. Menstrual life force linguistic word pretzel game. --Moni3 (talk) 20:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The Body

I've had this article on my watchlist for years. I haven't watched the episode for about three years, and it never seemed to pack the same punch on repeated watches, but what you've written is a wonderful companion to the actual episode. As I was reading it I could feel the same emotion I felt when I watched the episode the first time around and remembering the death of one of my parents. Congrats :) Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:45, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Internet communications suck and this cannot be expressed properly through this medium, but you really have no idea how much I appreciate your comment here. Thank you very, very much for taking the time to read the article and leave your message.

How cold and stark my reply is. Too bad. I hope you get some glimmer of meaning from it. Thank you. --Moni3 (talk) 22:38, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Also wanted to stop by and say what an absolutely stunning job you did on the article, amazing work. "The Body" is probably my favourite episode of television ever. Also noticed you did the same type of vast improvements on the musical episode as well as "Hush", again, amazing work! Do you plan on doing any other Buffy episodes like this, possibly "Restless" (another absolute favourite)? I'll gladly try to help in the future if you plan on doing so. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Drovethrughosts, and thanks for taking the time to leave your message here. Really. I also added material to "Once More, With Feeling". I just got a book in which three chapters discuss the music in that episode, so I have to read that soon and add what's appropriate. I'm taking a bit of a break on episodes, though. I wanted to do "Family" but I don't know if there is enough thematic and critical reception source material to write that one. Maybe that's just as well. I like that one so much I don't want to have to write it and put it up for scrutiny. If source material is the only criteria for writing these, I might be able to do "Innocence", but I don't find that episode very compelling. "Restless" might have some information on it, so I might consider it. We'll see.

At any rate, thanks very much again for your words. They mean a lot. Let me know if you have any suggestions. --Moni3 (talk) 15:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Hemingway

Hi Moni3. Thanks for the comments over atErnest Hemingway. I don't know how to deal with this in terms of Wikipedia, because the biographers are unclear on the cause of his mental illness. From experience, I know I'm depressed when I finish an article here (and God knows I'm not Hemingway!) but that's totally irrelevant, except I appreciate his description of "blackass moods". I'm wary of using forensic diagnosis, because I don't really understand how reliable it is. Also thanks for pointing out he was a writer - people tend to forget that. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Posthumous diagnosis a tricky road to navigate, but I don't think it will be difficult to word the article close to what the sources have to say about him. Just take lots of deep breaths and keep going back to the sources. --Moni3 (talk)

And pass the lithium! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'll add something to the article from the sources. I like the Samuel Johnson article, and might add a section about health. First, am taking a break, and a lot of deep breaths. ... and the lithium - thanks for the laugh! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 22:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

When you look at a "finished" article, like Samuel Johnson, it all looks obvious and easy, but I can promise you that it wasn't. You have to keep plugging away. Can't remember who it was said that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Malleus Fatuorum 22:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Edison – iridescent 22:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

And in the case of Johnson, I've read just about everything written about TS for more than 15 years, and can assure all that no medical article I've ever encountered disputes his diagnosis, and plenty of credible medical researchers endorse it. That's the kind of medical consensus we should have before adding post-humous diagnoses. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

The problem with Hemingway is this: write an article with his name and it'll sell. I've been involved with Am. Lit for more decades than I care to admit - and I think I would have come across this information at some point. Perhaps another century or so, and the material will be available. In my view, it's not yet. But, maybe that editor can make his case. As for pending changes, I haven't a clue how a situation like this would be dealt with - but I guess I should figure it out in case this article lands on the front page sooner rather than later. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Did you miss my edit there? Raul scheduled it for the mainpage on June 23. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

So much for a nice calm discussion about phrasing on the talk page. Can an FA go on the main page while there's an RfC on content? (I guess so...) --Moni3 (talk) 01:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

caps in quotes

I've changed this more than once:

• ... writing "(i)t is simply ...

That format is 'intended' for cases where a quoted phrase is incorporated into a sentence in which the case would be wrong; for example:

• Sherwood said, "Everyone in the neighborhood feels the same way."
• Sherwood attributed the same opinion to everyone in the neighborhood.
• Sherwood attributed the same opinion to "[e]veryone in the neighborhood".

And conversely, for dialogue-style quotations where the beginning of a sentence is clipped:

• Sherwood said, "If you ask me, it's an outrage."
• Sherwood said, "[I]t's an outrage."

It's not necessary (but a comma is) where the quotation is explicitly presented as a quotation. Your sentence could be written as

• ... writing that "[i]t is simply ...

but this is rarely good style. —Tamfang (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

This is one of those ridiculously small details I just don't feel like learning just now. I'm perfectly confident with your parentheses bracket capitalization quote changes. It keeps me from grabbing the gun and shooting the monitor. Although, $10 says someone at FAC complains about it. --Moni3 (talk) 23:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

If I knew what FAC is I might take that bet, broke though I am. —Tamfang (talk) 23:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

FAC=Featured Article Candidate. Or, better known as All The Things You Never Imagined Would Become Monumentally Offensive to All Readers You Giant Idiot Why Did You Ever Think of Nominating This Piece of Crap Article What Kind of Glutton for Punishment Are You Anyways? --Moni3 (talk) 23:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

That acronym is too long for Wikispeak. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, I left out the swearing. What more do you want? --Moni3 (talk) 23:47, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Shorten it, add swearing, define the acronym. Have you seen TFLN today? Was it a full moon last night? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

No full moon last night. Trust me, I would know. Hooooowl!!! APK whisper in my ear 01:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

What were you doing

... in New Jersey? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Thinking of you, as always, Sandy. --Moni3 (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Ceoil is looking for a good video. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Geo-stuff

Question: boring or exciting?

Since you seem to be back around more (and I suddenly freed up some time), I figured I'd ask you what it is that you find so boring about geology sections and (optionally) what could be done to improve them.

It would be really helpful, because as an "expert" (more or less), I lost some of my authority on what a non-geologist reader would want to see. Awickert (talk) 02:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Where would you like to have this discussion? About which article? --Moni3 (talk) 00:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I didn't have anything in mind in particular - I was thinking more in general. We could talk about something that you've written, if you'd like. I'm going to have family in town starting tomorrow though, so my WP activity will be touch-and-go.

Thanks - this should be really helpful! Awickert (talk) 04:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Neigh

I knew there was a reason I hated origami. APK whisper in my ear 19:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm also disturbed by that image. Let's not try to determine what that says about me. --Moni3 (talk) 00:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, this is why I like you. APK whisper in my ear 05:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Would it destroy the illusion of our respective identities if I told you how much I think about you when I post these random tidbits? An awful lot. --Moni3 (talk) 12:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops

Missed that. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Heh. No worries. I saw the edits the guy made and I didn't pay close attention to them at the time to fix them. On to another day... --Moni3 (talk) 00:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

You've been really helpful, and I love the humor! Just wanted to thank you. Clearly I was starting to hyperventilate, but am now back into article writing mode. Haven't a clue why I chose Hemingway to work on other than the article was a mess and I happened to have a biography on my bookshelf. Never expected to see it on the main page (especially with experimental software on a dry run). Anyway, thanks again. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

With main page day comes the realization of just how stupid we really are for trying to improve articles. I spent half the day when To Kill a Mockingbird was on the main page floating on a tube down a river. I let other folks deal with the vandalism, which, apparently was prolific. The uber-vandal 4-chan collective idiot Grawp hit the article, somehow posting a composite image of Goatse.cx in it. Good times.

Anyway, I think you handled it well. It was kind of confusing with the new system, but overall not too terrible. Wait another day for day-late readers to catch up then start cleaning up Hemingway. Let me know if you need any more help. I don't quite know what I can do, but I'll see. --Moni3 (talk) 12:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Between you and Maria, the talkpage is pretty lively, which is a nice change. I'll wait for a little while to let the dust settle. If the biggest problem with the article (after 97,000 views) is the cats, I think the damage is minimal. Funny that, about not liking certain writers. I loathe (loathe!) Faulkner. Tried working on The Sound and the Fury but had to stop. I'm trying to work on Pound now - interesting guy in a weird sort of way. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 22:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Bad Romance

Do you think its time to steam roll this baby through Pr and then through FAC once? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

That song is a tart, a tease. The video is toxically enticing. I am responsible for the majority of hits on YouTube for that video. You are a peddler of opium! Coming here and wafting this article under my nose, like a bottle of Thunderbird to someone who badly needs to get drunk. Have you no shame?

This doesn't mean I won't participate in the PR for it, though. --Moni3 (talk) 12:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I feel the same way watching this scene. APK whisper in my ear 15:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

It was at that point I felt Lady Gaga's direct line to the Vatican was going to start flashing. Taking her cues from "Like a Prayer". Now, this is like reaching the top of a roller coaster and it just shooting right the fuck into awesomeness. Where the lights turn on and the fire and I'm just like that dude. --Moni3 (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

The Political Cesspool

I have responded to your comments on The Political Cesspool's FAC nomination, and have made changes accordingly. Feel free to take another look. Stonemason89 (talk) 15:13, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Will do. Give me a few hours and I'll return. --Moni3 (talk) 15:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Stonemason89 (talk) 15:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Gay

Just a reminder, please don't forget to remove the pending changes protection from a page after you move it back to semi. Thanks. 山本一郎 (会話) 23:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I asked for help on the Talk:Reviewing page. I know I missed something but I don't know what it is. Is there a manual for admins about how to do this? I looked around and couldn't find it. I went to the IRC channel and no one answered me. --Moni3 (talk) 23:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

It's on the same page where you add traditional page protection. It's the third selection box, below the page move selection box when you apply normal page protection, there's a selection box called "Pending Changes", where you can change the page's pending change protection status. Let me know if you still can't find it. 山本一郎 (会話) 23:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Of course it is. That's the place where it would make me feel the most stupid. --Moni3 (talk) 23:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

This is more of a software design issue. Apparently when it comes to humans and computers, hard to understand software designs make people feel stupid, same cannot be said about bad structural design for a building, or a badly designed kitchen appliance. The approve/disapprove button needs work as well, another example of bad design in WP:PCP. 山本一郎 (会話) 23:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Homosexuality

Well after much effort I decided to move the project to the sandbox as you suggested. I'm using the page's Sandbox, and there is project documentation in the Sandbox's talk page.

While I understand that you may not wish to involve yourself into this project, I would certainly appreciate your personal support in this undertaking. You seem to have encountered your share of hardships on Wikipedia, though I would still like it if, in the end, you helped at least to include lesbianism in the article. I strongly feel it's too centered towards male homosexuality and perhaps could use a woman's touch.

I would also appreciate your coaching throughout the project. You have attempted this before and I would be a fool not to want to learn from your experience. I would like it if you looked at the project I've outlined and comment on it.

I've also posted notices in several talk pages alerting other groups of the projects, perhaps I will be able to gather more positive contributors who would be willing to work in a structured manner.

Thanks for your help.

Pdorion (talk) 08:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Your very helpful feedback on the Confirmation bias article is much appreciated. And you made me chuckle, which doesn't often happen in the review process. ;) Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 08:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Can you adopt me Moni3?

Hi there, I'm VERY new to all this but came across you on the Adoption list and you seem cool. Would you mind considering me for adoption? I'm a phd student studying theatre and cultural studies and I have interests in gender and sexuality studies, street theatre and performance theory. I'm taking a crash course on wikipedia this week and could use all the help I can get. warm wishes CG 21:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Californiagrant (talk • contribs)

Heya. What are you looking to accomplish? What kind of advice can I give you? Are there any articles in particular you are hoping to write or improve? --Moni3 (talk) 21:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the response. is there a easier chat function? or is a chat possible through something like msn? or do we just post back and forth on here? (CaliforniaGrant 21:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC))