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Anunnaki

My apologies. I deleted that prematurely without finding the proper sources to refute. NJMauthor (talk)

RE: "were blessed with" crusade

Would you mind taking a look at this, and the few edits preceeding it?

Jabal al-Lawz editors

Hi Doug, I see our Sinai editor is back with a new name: User:Eye2EyeIIIV. Should I log an SPI case or can I just ask you to block him? Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Being cautious, I'd say a new SPI case. Thanks.

I should have remembered the similar name, anyway, that's well done. Dougweller (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Late comment about one recent edit war

Hi Doug, it's probably a bit late now, but I thought you might be interested in this [1] comment I left on a matter you recently handled. Cheers, – Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't really know enough about that issue, but I did think protection was a good idea. Dougweller (talk) 21:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

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Flat Earth: Isaiah 40:22

I recently removed as vandalism the phrase "Niko is very hot and elle smells." from the end of the Isaiah 40:22 section of the Flat Earth article. However, this phrase has now appears to have been restored. Please take another look at this. Thanks. UnpopularTruth (talk) 10:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Nice try. Not only did you not remove it, it's not there now either. What you did do was make a whole bunch of changes, including changing citation styles (which is a no no), throughout the article, and call it reverting vandalism. Not a good idea. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC) (talk page lurker)

An IP added and removed that vandalism on May 30th [2]. Perhaps you can explain the big discrepancy between what you claim to have done and what you actually did. Dougweller (talk) 13:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Layerbit deletion 7-6-2010

Hello Dougweller,

On July 6th, you deleted an article I had written on a marketing firm called Layerbit. I am a marketing student at North Harris College in the Houston area. I would like to write an article about this firm because I met the manager when he came to speak at our school. I would also like to write about other firms that I know about here in Houston. There is a good deal of talent in this city that no one knows about and I am researching some of them for a paper.

Is the best way to go about this to write the article in a sub directory folder and then have you review it before I submit it? (Any details would be appreciated. still a bit confused about protocol) Also, where did the article go? Is it in some wiki purgatory?

Thank you for any help you can offer.

Kevin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinclubman (talk • contribs) 19:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. There are, as I'm sure you know, millions of firms in the world. As an encyclopedia, we don't try to cover everything. We have our own criteria of what we call 'notability', a word that sometimes confuses people as they don't understand (and sometimes don't bother to find out) what me mean by that word. In particular, we have guidelines for the notability of organisations. You need to read WP:Notability (organizations and companies) to see if any of the firms you want to write about meet those criteria. You'll need to read WP:RS also to see more about our criteria for sources. Deleted articles still exist but ordinary editors can't see them. Let me know what you want to do and I'll try to help and show you how to write something in your 'userspace'. But read our guidelines first. Dougweller (talk) 20:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Need some assistance

Hi Doug. I've noticed that you appear on a lot of the articles I've got on my watchlist, taking care of dubious material and editors. I need some help with an article/editor. I don't know exactly how to describe the situation. The article talkpage is a mess, because the editor keeps putting up walls of words that have little to do with questions about the validity of certain sources, and what those sources specifically say. The editor consistently adds information into the article that is not covered in the sources, but I've only been able to double-check a few of these sources. But it goes even further than that. I'm certain that this editor is editing in bad faith, and mainly concerned with advancing his off-wiki aims. I posted a thread concerning some of the issue on on WP:RS/N: [3]; and alluded to it on WP:Village pump (policy): [4]. Please see the last discussion thread on my talkpage, to see how things tie together. What can I do? The article is like a slow edit war now. The editor just reverts me. The heraldry/clan stuff is total misinformation. I don't know how to describe the whole thing, it's a mess.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 05:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello Doug and Brianann, Just weighing in also. Doug, if you look at the thread where Brianann and I are discussing this, I think it's pretty self-evident what's going on here. This appears to be part of an elaborate, on-going ruse by an individual that appears to be, at least in part, a profit-making enterprise. (I assume the other part is sheer grandiosity.) In any case, I would suggest that you look into this situation. Brianann has laid it out pretty well, I think. Best, MarmadukePercy (talk) 05:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Layerbit deletion 7-6-2010

Hey Doug,

Thank you for the resources. I did read over the criteria and believe that you are correct. Many of the firms I was planning on writing about may not be eligible. I do still believe that there are some small boutique firms that do. I did more research on these guys and found a number of awards for design. Community for Entertainment Artists, Flash Forward, Flash Focus are a few. These may not be Emmys but they're pretty big in the design community.

What I was hoping to do was take the original article and just take out everything that sounds promotional or commercial.

Sorry to keep bothering you but thanks for your help Kevin Kevinclubman (talk) 17:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

It's at User:Kevinclubman/Layerbit. I messed up the formatting slightly. Read MOS:LAYOUT and Wikipedia:Your first article. You've got loads of links now to our guidelines, etc on your talk page. Dougweller (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thank you for the warning. For the time being, I will refrain from making further edits to pseudohistory. I would appreciate, however, not being labeled an SPA. I have edited hundreds of articles, including reverting obvious vandalism on scores of articles. It's absolutely true that I have an interest in the Shakespeare Authorship Question, but my recent edits (pseudohistory excepted) have had more to do with restoring content that is being systematically deleted from Wikipedia - basically I am up against 2 editors who are moving from article to article removing any and all mentions of the Authorship question from the site. Is this to be condoned? Smatprt (talk) 20:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I've struck my comment about your being an SPA. The issue you're referring to is a dispute that should be settled without Admin action at least at the moment. Dougweller (talk) 10:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Thank you very much for responding to my request for help on the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard and adding the needed weight at Talk:Debate_on_the_monarchy_in_Canada#Quotation_marks_around_.22British_monarchy.22.3F. On my own, I really wasn't having much success getting them to respect the core content policies. Already the same editors are planning other ways to question or remove the content that doesn't fit their point of view, but I guess that'll be a bridge to cross when we get to it ... 65.92.158.145 (talk) 05:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Doug

Thanks for your assistance.AussieGreen&Gold (talk) 23:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Rak-Tai

You did, in fact, miss the point. List of red-light districts includes historical areas, so removing entries on that basis is not valid. With the wikilink (this one) he could have fixed the link rather than removing material and a ref. I later fixed the wikilink. There are more questionable edits by this user, those were just examples. This editor has been and continues to be a problem; I'm doing my best to believe you're not targeting me and ignoring him because of some personal bias, but reporting him for his 3RR violations and continuing behavior is a necessary step in confirming that. I won't do that, because I prefer to try and work with other editors rather than going straight to admin action, but since you do then not doing the same for him is a double-standard. Thanks. TJ Black (talk) 05:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The list does not say it contains areas whioh are no longer red-light districts (and in my opinion should not contain such districts), so removing entries that are no longer red-light districts is clearly valid. You don't want to report him but you want me to, that's not going to happen. Dougweller (talk) 05:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I quick glance a the list would have confirmed that it does in fact contain historical areas, clearly marked as such, including the ones he removed. Though I agree it could state that clearly in the lede; I'll work on it.

As I said I prefer to work with other editors and only request action as a last resort. I'm merely pointing out the double standard in reporting me and not him - you came to the page, saw a series of reverts by two editors, one of which was trying to engage the other in discussion and one that wasn't - and you chose to report one of them only, the one who was being constructive. If someone wasn't assuming good faith on your part, the conclusion would be that your actions were based on some personal bias related to the edits being made. Since I'm sure you are a fair and impartial editor, this must have just been an oversight on your part. I expect to see your report on Rak-Tai on the 3RR notice board shortly. As I said, I have no desire to do so personally, I just trying to help you avoid appearing to be biased. Best of luck, looking forward to seeing that report. TJ Black (talk) 06:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

You were repeatedly trying to add what others besides me consider a BLP violation, which is why I made the report, I know neither of you. In any case, there's no chance I am submitting a report for edits the last of which occurred over 24 hours ago, it's stale and no action would be taken. That's the way it works. Dougweller (talk) 06:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I've realised that you may not be clear about our blocking policy. You appear to want me to use it to punish another editor. The purpose of blocking someone is to stop them from repeating an undesirable behaviour. You stopped, so you weren't blocked although you'd violated 3RR. That particular dispute is, hopefully, over now that there is a consensus (which you disagree with) that the image is a BLP violation. So again, no one would block Rak Tai, those edits are stale, the issue is resolved, and certainly as you weren't blocked he wouldn't be blocked. Dougweller (talk) 07:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Just pointing out the double standard on your part. I acknowledged my mistake, you ought to acknowledge yours. Obviously I disagree with the view that one of Wikipedia's core polices is arbitrarily not applicable in certain cases, but that's irrelevant to your actions. TJ Black (talk) 07:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I didn't make a mistake, it would however be a mistake if I did what you wished and what you could do yourself if you felt so strongly about it. My concern was in preventing a BLP violation, if that hadn't been the issue for me I would not have reported you. I don't know what core policy you are referring to. Dougweller (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

And I just checked, Rak-Tai did not violate 3RR. Even if he'd been warned, you only report for exceeding 3RR. Dougweller (talk) 08:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

user:Antigrandiose

Related to your post on my talk page - see User talk:Antigrandiose#Inappropriate content and associated MFD. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 01:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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Theodore Kavalliotis

could you please unprotect the article? i want to readd content that was removed. in NO WAY were my edits vandalism...i insulted user sulmues because of his inability to understand a simple matter so he reported me for 'personal attacks' and users with no idea regarding the article kept removing good content because i was a 'vandal'...if you feel unwilling to unprotect (fair) could you ask admin future perfect at sunrise to take a look at it since he knows both my edit history AND the article well? i dont have an account so i cant ask him myself...thanks87.202.23.90 (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

my bad...i just saw future perfects comment towards you in this case sorry i missed it earlier so you can scratch most of my above comment...just to add one more thing so i can make my case i WASNT block-evading i just have a dynamic IP so if i disconnect it changes...at the time it changed i WASNT aware of sulmues report and i kept editing normally. so ill have to only request of you: can you unblock the article so i can edit it?87.202.23.90 (talk) 00:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)