Talk:Lance Armstrong

Doping section given undue weight

The doping section is not written in an encyclopedic manner, is excessively long, and is given undue weight, particularly given that A) Lance Armstrong has never been sanctioned, legally or otherwise, for drug use and B) it is not that notable by comparison to the rest of his career. It should be reformatted into paragraphs and shortened so that it is more reasonable in length and weight. Titanium Dragon (talk) 04:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the doping section has an undue weight problem. Armstrong has the most individual victories in Tour de France history, and yet the drug allegations section has almost three times as many words as the Tour de France success section. (I pasted those sections into a word processing program and used the word count function.) I think the accusations are notable because they've received media coverage, but their weight they are due is limited by the fact that Armstrong hasn't been even indicted, let alone found guilty, of any doping. Certainly, it should received more in-depth coverage than his unprecedented Tour de France performance. --JamesAM (talk) 05:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Detailed coverage is necessary because the matter is controversial and disputed. Much of the current length of the section is down to rebuttals and denials of the allegations, which are difficult to remove without creating NPOV problems. We could always work on expanding on his TdF victories Wulfram (talk) 11:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Agree with JamesAM and Titanium Dragon - way too much weight is given to doping speculation. Expanding TdF coverage is not an easy answer, so we really need to look at trimming the doping section. --hippo43 (talk) 23:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

How about a separate article? --Born2cycle (talk) 01:27, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Just visited this article and noticed how long the section is -- I believe it should be trimmed. It's excessively long. Zodiiak (talk) 17:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The rest of the article should be epanded YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the rest of the article should be expanded. What is there is well documented and gives a complete picture. Just because the rest of the article is lacking doesnt mean you should remove something that is complete. Thaf (talk) 08:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

MOST of the words are "rebuttals" by Armstrong and his minions. Look at the Marion Jones and Barry Bonds, even Alex Rodriguez pages. It is almost eerie that EVERY charge against Armstrong, no matter how trivial or supported by evidence, has to be immediately followed by Armstrong's "side of the story". Imagine if the Hamas or Hezbollah page were written like that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.150.208.195 (talk) 00:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

The entire "Allegations" section needs to be redone. It could basically be brought down to one paragraph that states something like "Allegations of drug use have dogged Armstrong through much of his career. Armstrong has always proclaimed his innocense, and despite accusations has never failed a drug test." That would pretty much settle it. The section is completely ridiculous by any Wiki standard, it is drawn out and sounds like a Sun or National Enquirer article more than an encyclopedic entry. I mean seriously, specific arguments on a hillside? Really? It seriously looks like there are certain people who can't get their heads around Armstrong having never failed a drug test, and therefore they need to blackball the article by putting up every accusation that has ever come up in the press. This article shouldn't have that. It is really spiteful and immature. RTShadow (talk) 06:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I disagree with almost everything you say here, RTShadow. This material needs to stay, and as the crazy editorial fights in WP go, this is actually one of the more settled issues, perhaps demonstrating a slight level of maturity and collegiality among editors. But a one sentence summary of these persistent allegations against Armstrong should be added, at the beginning of the section.Jack B108 (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I am not talking about whether or not editors are civil to one another, I am talking about the section being a collection of tabloid 'he said this, she said that, but later he denied saying it and she said something else'. Much of the 'referenced material' is odd (questionably sourced opinion pieces), some is third and even fourth party 'I heard him say this' rumors that would not stand up to any sort of standard of truth. Wikipedia is supposed to state facts, it is not for anyone here to make the determination of whether or not Armstrong used performance enhancing drugs, yet the whole section plays out like a courtroom, when in the end, Armstrong has never been found guilty of, nor punished, for any of the accusations that have been brought against him. Furthermore, every single accusation has all been discredited or defeated in some way. To address what was said above here: the idea that "the problem with the section is the rebuttals" is absurd, if there is information that refutes specific accusations, it is going to be included. I guess my problem with a lot of this section is this: If the evidence refuting the accusation is stronger than the accusation itself, and has been settled as such by specific governing bodies of athletics and cycling, why is it still included as 'fact'?RTShadow (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I actually think the section is far lighter than it could be regarding various allegations. And RTSShadow, it is a matter of debate over wether lance has ever failed a drug test. Many argue he has, hence why those allegations need to be covered in such depth including all relevant sources etc. Interesting that situations like "lance had 24 tests between fall of 2008 and march 2009" are in fact unverified with no sources outside of lance. Pretty much like the "most tested athlete in the world" claim. The only person to ever say that is Lance or Johann and is wildly innacurate as a statement.90.195.108.38 (talk) 10:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Doping EPO 1999

A 1999 urine sample showed traces of corticosteroid in an amount that was not in the positive range.

OK, but why haven't you mentioned the 6 og 8 positive, POSITIVE, EPO tests in 1999? Those Lance have rejected to be tested once again.

You have even locked the article about Lance, so get in all the facts! Wake up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.166.231.161 (talk) 23:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Status post-2010 Tour

And yes, I'm still pissed off about the teams section

Would it be fair post-Tour to describe Armstrong as "semi-retired?" He's giving up racing in Europe entirely after this Tour. He'll still ride in 2011, but it'll just be races like the Tour of California and the Tour Down Under, and probably never as a squad leader. I'm not sure the phrase "semi-retired" is itself citable, but the rest certainly is. Nosleep (Talk · Contribs) 06:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Doping Section out of Proportion

I have to say that the doping section of this article is out of proportion with articles on other cyclists, including those proven guilty of offenses such as Alexander Vinokourov, Jan Ulrich, Tom Boonen, and even Eddy Merckx. I understand that this has gotten a bit of press recently, but I have to say that there is some Recentism going on here. Allegations of doping surely are not more substantial than proven offenses, and it seems that, given Armstrong's accomplishments on the bike, the doping section of the article should not be the largest part, at least until accusations are proven true. Mrathel (talk) 05:15, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

After reading the assessment summary page, I felt it was justified to move the "Specific Allegations" to a separate page, which I linked to in the article. This will help prevent the article from being weighted down by the controversial allegations. The section on the drug tests is still a bit lengthy, but I feel that it is an actual case, thus not meeting the criteria by which i labeled the others. Mrathel (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not convinced. Allowing for some more time and input on such a big change is probably a good idea. --Born2cycle (talk) 21:21, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure that time is really that necessary. I didn't remove content, I simply moved it to keep the article in proportion. There is no way the article could regain GA status with nearly 1/3 of the text discussing the doping practices of a rider who has yet to be proven to have doped, and the list-style presentation is not in accordance with the style guidlines. If anything, time should be given to allow the section to be cleaned up before it is readded to the main article, should that prove necessary. Mrathel (talk) 21:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, I do think that the Landis info should be put back into the article, but care should be taken to limit the amount of discussion on that subject until more information is available. Current controversies tend to put too much emphasis on small (often juicy) details, but the article should reflect the 20-year career of the subject.If this can be done with admitted and proven cheats, then it should also be possible for suspected ones:) Mrathel (talk) 22:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Not cool to make such a major change to a very high-profile page without giving other editors time to review the proposal. It may or may not improve the page, but I wish Mrathel had at least given 48 hours notice. The doping allegations (and denials, etc.) are a key part of the whole Lance A story. I think Mrathel should now either revert their edit or rewrite what was left in the main article to make it an effective summary, which it isn't, esp. as many of the facts have been whisked away. What is there now has much too much detail about certain things (e.g., Paul K and Dr Ashenden's opine on LNDD urine tests) and effectively leaves out any summary of important allegations, such as those of Walsh, Landis, Lemond, the Andreu's, etc. regarding blood doping & EPO use. Jack B108 (talk) 23:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, because what's left in the main article is incoherent, I think the change should be reverted until we have consensus for what the summary should be. I'd prefer to let Mrathel, or yet another not-yet-involved editor, do the revert, and commence the discussion about the summary section. --Born2cycle (talk) 13:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Mrathel, why do you and many others want to support Lance by spreading wrong rumors? E.g. by comparison - there is much more evidence for the use of doping by Lance than by Jan Ulrich (indeed being widely considered as having used EPO, however never had a positive doping-test on that! - you know that argument ;-))

spinout article nominated for deletion

Well, despite the objections to moving this section out, it has remained as a spinout article, and has now been nominated for deletion. --Born2cycle (talk) 18:03, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I tried to save it, and the votes to keep were in favor, but the article was deleted nonetheless. I filed for a review, but all the votes so far are in support of the decision to delete, though I can't understand the reasoning. So, for now, I've restored the content to this article, at least until we come up with a better solution by consensus.

It should be noted that removing this content (without first putting it in a spinout) is violating WP:CENSOR since WP:BLP#Public figures clearly indicates that "notable, relevant, and well-documented" allegations like this belong in the article:

If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If it is not documented by reliable third-party sources, leave it out.

The "notable, relevant, and well-documented" criteria applies to each and every allegation in this section, though I've been told some of the references are dead links and that needs to be fixed. --Born2cycle (talk) 20:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

History of Specific allegations section

1. Lance Armstrong (oldid) → List of doping allegations against Lance Armstrong
2. List of doping allegations against Lance Armstrong → User talk:Born2cycle/armstrong-allegations (oldid)
3. User talk:Born2cycle/armstrong-allegations (same) → Lance Armstrong (diff)

Reviewing the overall diff, it appears that changes to that section were confined to refs and whitespace. Flatscan (talk) 04:29, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

This history focuses on edits where attribution might have been lost by copying (WP:Copying within Wikipedia), so I did not include earlier history showing the section's development and expansion. Flatscan (talk) 03:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for summarizing the history, Flatscan. Much of the content was removed by User:Tarc in this edit, but I restored it here. The edit summary provided for the removal was this: "Sorry, this is unsuitable for either a separate article or for this article. The description above is sufficient, removing per WP:UNDUE".

WP:UNDUE does not apply to this situation at all, unless it can be shown for each allegation removed that "all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources" are not represented. In fact, there is no minority vs. majority viewpoint issue here at all, which is what UNDUE deals with. It's just content about the topic that from high quality reliable sources, though there are still a few deadlink issues to fix.

See also: WP:CENSOR. --Born2cycle (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Your cries of "censorship!" can get stuffed, honestly. Having such lengthy detail for each and every ALLEGATION (not conviction, not proven) is a serious violation of WP:UNDUE as I noted. Tarc (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Please be WP:CIVIL - your first sentence is not.

I'm not saying the section is perfect, just that imperfection is not justification for removal. Violation of BLP, for example, is justification for removal. Actual violation of WP:UNDUE might be justification for removal, but adding perspective of the missing viewpoint, to make it neutral, is better. In the case of each paragraph about a well-sourced allegation you removed, what is the missing viewpoint? How is it a violation of WP:UNDUE?

Yes, these are allegations. So what? You capitalize ALLEGATIONS and note that they are "not conviction, not proven" as if that clearly indicates including them in the article is not encyclopedic or something. To the contrary, WP:BLP#Public figures explicitly says, "If an allegation ... is notable, relevant, and well-documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it." Removing content about any allegation without showing that it is either not notable, not relevant or not well-documented is removing content that policy explicitly states belongs in the article and so is censorship.

Instead of censoring, how about helping improve it? Thanks. --Born2cycle (talk) 17:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• this comment from User:Jclemens in the deletion review of the allegations spinout is relevant to this discussion because it notes that many who supported deletion of the spinout article did not support deletion of the content entirely from Wikipedia (that is, the problem was not the content per se, but that it was all concentrated in one article rather than in the main article), and many explicitly called for a merge. --Born2cycle (talk) 18:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Born2cycle for restoring the specific allegations, removed by someone w/o consensus or prior notice a few weeks ago. (I asked the person that deleted so much in September to write a proper intro to the doping allegations section, but they did not). The entire section was terrible w/o the removed details or introduction/summary. There is no "serious violation" of WP policy here. Chill... Jack B108 (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• Is there any chance that editing can get us down to a section that is about half this length? I think there is an UNDUE problem, but that it can be addressed with simple editing. I'll try some. Hobit (talk) 23:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

• You guys are using "undue" in a way that I don't understand. Can someone who believes there is an "undue" problem please quote from WP:UNDUE and explain how and why that applies here? Thanks.

  Having said that, I think paring down the wording, if and where possible, without losing important facts and viewpoints, is a good idea. But that seems like an editorial thing, not because of UNDUE. Ironically, we do have to be careful to not pare down so much that we lose a significant viewpoint in the process; that would be an UNDUE problem. --Born2cycle (talk) 23:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

This article is too much arguing Lance's points on the doping (e.g. ahsendend opposition)

He is going down. and this article is POV. you will see... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.158.162 (talk) 22:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Oooh, sccaaary! But you're a week or two early for Halloween. Good timing, anonymous idiot, too, as Oct. 2 was the day Lance A was diagnosed with cancer. And did you just make up a new word of "ahsendend"? BTW, are you the same guy who "brought down" David Letterman, LOL? Jack B108 (talk) 00:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Hahahah "anonymous IP idiot", again the usual Wikipedia "god" who ranks personal self importance and image above someone who has something to say. Remember being an admin et al or a senior editor with all the Wikipedia accoutrements amounts to nothing in the real world. All this is site has become is a game where those with a vested interests fight against those with differing vested interests against those who think both groups are all pretty sad. Doing free work for years and fighting over keeping their chosen viewpoint as the "consensus". My point being the IP poster was correct, it's now January 2011 and no surprises but the man who is now facing potential legal ramifications over being a shameless drug user, here [1], [2] and [3]. But it hurts when you think you are wrong doesn't it? Partiucualry when this article is now going to go up smoke when the case happens. Let the edit battles begin ;-)

Consistency across WP

It says correctly at 2005 Tour de France and List_of_teams_and_cyclists_in_the_2005_Tour_de_France that Lance A on the Discovery Channel team raced and won the 2005 tour, yet if you go to Lance A's WP page here, it now says in the prominent infobox that his 2005 team was the U.S. Postal Service. This is not a good change in my opinion. The U.S. Postal Service did not sponsor their team (read, put up big $$$$) past 2004's end. Discovery Channel put up the money and should get the credit, but one WP editor wants to change those facts on WP because of some twisted "team continuity" logic. I think this is a bad idea in general and a bad precedent for consistency. Jack B108 (talk) 02:27, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I think the two mains points are whether it was the same team (it was) and whether the team had the same name (it didn't). Although the team name derives from the sponsor, I don't think the sponsor is important: we don't give sponsors such prominence in other sports where team name is not derived from the sponsor. Severo^TC 08:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

The sponsor made the team. There wouldnt be anything to discuss about 2004->2005 with Tailwind Sports unless Discovery Comm came in with major sponsorship. Sponsorship means that people on the team can eat: the sponsor buys the fuel fo the bus, pays the top cyclists six or seven figures, pays the mechnanic, take care of the hotel bills, etc. The "team" is a shell, so it is wrong to give priority naming rights to a shell that would collapse w/o major outside help. Jack B108 (talk) 16:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

You've made the point about "who pays the bills" before, but I don't accept it is the job of the athlete's infobox to tell the reader this. It is the job of the prose of the team's article to do this. Severo^TC 09:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I get the idea, but it's an original way of managing team name information, and therefore not allowed. The fact is, if Discovery Channel had not stepped up, there would have been no team. Bottom line: We can't say that the team in 2005 was US Postal because reliable sources don't say that. --Born2cycle (talk) 02:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Question – do you prefer the current state of Mark Cavendish's infobox or the one present in this old revision? Because I think the one in the diff is kind of ridiculous (and keep in mind, it would now have another name in it, and probably yet another later this season), but it's more defensible than separating Armstrong's teams. A reader is unlikely to assume that "Team Columbia-HTC" and "Team HTC-Columbia" are wholly different entities, but I'd say it's quite likely that they'll assume that of names as different as "US Postal" and "Discovery Channel." Putting those two names on separate lines suggests that Armstrong left one team and joined another, which did not happen. Just like the very different sounding "Cofidis" and "US Postal" which do reflect Armstrong leaving one team and joining another. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 05:57, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

However, if we can put aside any misplaced urgency to have total consistency in every article, would it be so hard to have something like

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in the infobox? Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 06:06, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

This situation is essentially that of anyone who has the problem of how to deal with an employer that changed names on one's resume. I suggest a similar solution - use both names - but add some kind of comment/qualifier, like "(title sponsor change)". --Born2cycle (talk) 06:49, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

The biggest inconsistency of all would be to give a sponsor undue weight - as this is inconsistent with nearly every other sport on Wikipedia. We don't mention in an athlete's infobox if they get a new endorsement or if the team's shirt sponsor has changed etc. What matters here is what the team name is - that it derives from a sponsor is of secondary importance. Please note that in this argument I am not suggesting whether writing a separate entry for 2005 in the infobox is right or wrong, I am saying it is wrong based on the premise of what Discovery Channel's paid the bills and "deserve" inclusion in individual athlete's infoboxes.

That said, it's not perfect to just display "1999–2005

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Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 1998 You have called {{Contentious topics}}. You probably meant to call one of these templates instead: Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. 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Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 1999 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2000 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2001 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2002 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2003 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2004 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2005 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2009 You have called {{Contentious topics}}. You probably meant to call one of these templates instead: Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2010 You have called {{Contentious topics}}. You probably meant to call one of these templates instead: Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia.

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It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. 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It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 1999 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2000 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 2001 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. 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Very quick mock-ups, which I did in about five minutes so not stylistically perfect! Severo^TC 09:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Why are both proposal's number "1"? Anyway, I would like to see a blend of the two - essentially the second one but don't put DSC/USPS on the same line - give 2005 DSC a separate line.

As to the issue about undue weight as compared to other sports, I believe the best analogy might be Formula 1 racing teams. Something like this:

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--Born2cycle (talk) 09:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Severo's Proposal 2.5

Professional team(s)1
1992–1996	Motorola Body text line 1 Body text line 2
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1998–2005	US Postal/Discovery 1998 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. It may only be used if the user has previously received any contentious topic alert, and it can be replaced by a custom message that conveys the contentious topic designation. {{alert/DS}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/DS}}) is used to inform editors that the old "discretionary sanctions" system has been replaced by the contentious topics system, and that a specific topic is a contentious topic. {{Contentious topics/aware}} is used to register oneself as already aware that a specific topic is a contentious topic. Editnotices {{Contentious topics/editnotice}} is used to inform editors that a page is covered by the contentious topics system using an editnotice. Use the one below if the page has restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction editnotice}} is used to inform editors that the page they are editing is subject to contentious topics restrictions using an editnotice. Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. Talk page notices {{Contentious topics/talk notice}} is used to provide additional communication, using a talk page messagebox (tmbox), to editors that they are editing a page that is covered by the contentious topics system. The template standardises the format and wording of such notices. Use the below if there are restrictions placed on the page. {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice}} is used to inform editors that page restrictions are active on the page using a talk page messagebox (tmbox). Use the above if there are no restrictions placed on the page. If a user who has been alerted goes on to disruptively edit the affected topic area, they can be reported to the arbitration enforcement (AE) noticeboard, where an administrator will investigate their conduct and issue a sanction if appropriate. {{AE sanction}} is used by administrators to inform a user that they have been sanctioned. Miscellaneous {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. 1999 Alerting users {{alert/first}} ({{Contentious topics/alert/first}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the contentious topics system if they have never received such an alert before. In this case, this template must be used for the notification. {{alert}} ({{Contentious topics/alert}}) is used, on a user's talk page, to "alert", or draw a user's attention, to the fact that a specific topic is a contentious topic. 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Fixed the number issue :) Formula 1 bio articles don't include team information in their infoboxes so unfortunately offer no solutions. Anyway, I think it is very important to ensure that team continuity is treated equally. We are stating that the rider was on the same team for a number of seasons, and I don't think anybody would argue that the team Armstrong, amongst others, rode for in 2005 was different to the team he rode for in 2004. Putting the 2005 team on a separate line gives he impression it was a different team. It gives the 2005 sponsor undue weight and which, in my opinion, doesn't conform to a Neutral Point of View. Severo^TC 10:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Unless you can find a source that presents it that way, you're violating WP:OR and WP:NPOV to do it that way. In fact, your concern about giving sponsors undue weight by presenting information in the same as do reliable sources is arguably pushing a point of view. If the sources don't think presenting it that way gives the wrong impression, then we have no grounds to fret about it. Just randomly looking around, I find that this is typical of how his team history is presented in biographical accounts. Do you know of any sources that present pro cyclist team history in the way you are? --Born2cycle (talk) 18:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

That says at the bottom "Source: Wikipedia" so was probably taken from here at a time when the information on this page was displayed differently. It is not WP:OR to suggest in this case that the 2005 team was the same as the 2004 team. I am somewhat baffled to see such a suggestion, to be honest, and I don't understand how you came to such a conclusion. We don't need to copy sources in their presentation - how facts are presented is an editorial issue. My main point is - we need to balance two things here: 1) the continuous legal entity of the team (in this case, Tailwind Sports) and 2) the team name in each season. In this case, we do not achieve point 1 with your solution: it misleadingly gives a team name the status of a team. Likewise, with [4] we do not achieve point 2. My proposals try to find some middle ground in that but I am sure it's not perfect and there are probably countless other ways to find such a balance. But a solution does need to balance these two things or we (or our successors) will be back here in six months, one year, two years etc. Severo^TC 10:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

How about an additional column for team owner (e.g., Tailwind)? That way you'd show continuity in team ownership along with change in name/sponsor. --Born2cycle (talk) 23:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

How would you do that in the infobox (without making it unduly large)? Also, the name of the holding company can change without a change of legal continuity (for example when Bjarne Riis bought what is now Riis Cycling A/S). Severo^TC 11:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

You then of course get the added confusion that essentially it was the same managment team at Astana and it was Johann Bruyneels Pro Tour Licence being used, along with cars and support registered to Bruyneels company. He then took that licence to Radioshack. So effectively lance has ridden for the one team ever since cofidis. Personally I think postal, disco, astana, shack should all be listed seperately. Its perfectly easy to explain in the main article that Postal changed sponsors, and that Bruyneel held the licence and astana and radioshack.90.195.108.18 (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Except of course that's all not true. Astana have always had a different licence, Bruyneel never "took" it anywhere. Severo^TC 18:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)