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Andrea Moreno

I noticed your edits in List of Ghost Whisperer characters about Andrea Moreno's name. I changed it from Marino to Moreno because I have official source, a book that is published by the Producer of the show (this is why I gave a reference after her full name and explanation to the talk page). I have reverted your edits to Moreno again. w_tanoto (talk) 08:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009

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January 2009

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Halloween template

Please stop removing the sequel link. The reason it was placed there is because there has been a history of anonymous editors creating pages with various titles in reference to the Halloween sequel. The link was placed there to deter them from creating a page by giving them a link to the information.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to The Substitute 4: Failure Is Not An Option, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Triwbe (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maxine Johnson

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Maintenance Templates

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Laura Winslow, Steve Urkel, Carl Winslow, Estelle Winslow, Harriette Winslow, Rachel Crawford, Richie Crawford, and Maxine Johnson without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Ejfetters (talk) 00:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

more March 2009

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Friday the 13th

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Friday the 13th (franchise). When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Friday the 13th (franchise), you will be blocked from editing.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Halloween

Please see the discussion on the 2009 film's talk page. The official websites are listing "Halloween II" and the TV spots are now listing "Halloween II". Unless someone comes out and says "No, this is the real title", then for all intents and purposes "Halloween II" is the official title. If you disagree, please go to the talk page instead of just moving the pages back. Thanks.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Two editors have reverted you now, and 3 editors are in agreement that the page should be "Halloween II" when you include the talk page discussion. Please do not change the page again. This includes moving the 1981 film page title as well. If you continue to refuse to discuss this on the talk pages, and just revert the page titles then I'll be forced to report your edits to an Admin.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Please stop removing "would pick up where Halloween II ends and" and adding "movie" to the Halloween franchise page. The first bit is in the source, it's verified. The second ("movie") is an unprofessional term.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

August 2009

Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to List of iCarly episodes. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Don't change info without changing the reference NrDg 21:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Child's Play remake

In reference to your removal of information from Child's Play (film series): there is a discussion relating to the possible remake on the article talk page – Talk:Child's Play (film series)#Remake. If you believe the information to be incorrect, I invite you to present your reasons there. Thank you. --Dominic Hardstaff (talk) 10:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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Jabrona, I've moved your input to here – Talk:Child's Play (film series) – where it can be read by other editors. If you can remember which publication or website the article was in, that would be of immense help. Thanks. --Dominic Hardstaff (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I would be great to get a citation for this. It may well be that the abandoned plans are notable enough to keep the section but include news of the discontinuation. Note that it is still getting regular edit indicating an imminent release. Thanks. -- ToE^T 00:24, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

re: your message

Hi Jabrona, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 ^talk 05:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

January 2010

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to may be considered vandalism. Further edits of this type may result in you being blocked from editing Wikipedia. --The Taerkasten (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Halloween 6: Director's Cut

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Movie-censorship.com

I have started a larger discussion about movie-censorship.com at WT:FILM. Your thoughts are welcome. The discussion can be found here. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll be looking at it now and will be leaving a response. Jabrona (talk | contribs) - 21:18, 8 Janurary 2011 (UCT)

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Jason

It's original research to say what is and what is not in continuity. The only thing anyone has ever said was that they intentionally put Jason X in the future so that it would not conflict with any other storyline that could come later (even a FvJ one). The writers of FvJ never stated that it takes place in that continuity, or anything. They can point out that clearly Jason X takes place much later, but that's it. You also cannot connect dots and say that it was intended to have Jason be alive with no actual resurrection in Jason X because he would be resurrected in FvJ....that's original research. Cunningham did not have the foresight to see what the story would be for FvJ because he didn't have a hand in writing it. Regardless, it's not relevant to point out where something might fall in "continuity" on these pages because it doesn't matter to the film itself.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

The original research stands to be very well supported though. Clearly Jason X was not intended to be some sort of reboot of the series but the series' 10th film. And true, Sean Cunningham didn't foresee what story Freddy Vs. Jason would turn out to be, but he did know that it was going to be made eventually. He knew it was going to take place after Jason Goes to Hell and knew it was going to feature Jason's resurrection after that movie. Jason X was meant to take place after Freddy Vs. Jason whenever it got made and Freddy Vs. Jason can easily fall in before it, otherwise Cunningham would have went about his own thing and adding in Jason's resurrection. But surprisingly he didn't and left that alone. What else can you build off from that? Jabrona - 01:02, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

The truth is, from the moment they decided to put FREDDY KRUEGER IN JASON GOES TO HELL, PULLING HIS MASK INTO HELL, they were planning a Freddy vs. Jason and knew it would deal with Jason's resurrection somehow. But FvJ was stuck in development hell when the time came to make another film, so they made a film set in the future, either to give us time while we wait for Freddy vs. Jason, or to kill him off for good (like they did with Pinhead in Hellraiser Bloodline). I agree with you completely. Unfortunately I've tried arguing with Bignole before, we had this exact same conversation and when the chief admin thinks something, there's no changing his mind. IMO it's original research to state it's NOT in continuity. At the end of JGtH he was PULLED INTO HELL with NO BODY TO STRIKE WITH LIGHTNING. How else could he have come back if it wasn't someone from the inside? (It used to be worse though... he used to think Jason survived the end of Jason X) Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I wanted to tell Bignole and wait for his response to what I said but then I figured was it really worth it. I tried to explain to him the whole ordeal and I can see your point. But I know Jason X was made to make room for Freddy Vs. Jason to take place before it explaining Jason's resurrection. And about Jason X, though it's not officially said, I think Jason was killed for good because he was disintegrated in the atmosphere and I don't think there was anything left of him but his mask that landed into the sea below on Earth 2. I will convince Bignole otherwise once more and see what happens now. He never did read my response I wrote three weeks ago.Jabrona - 01:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

No argument there. As I tried to explain to Bignole, he is even listed under the "Jump to Death" menu (listing the death scenes in the movie) alongside Brodski with "Atmosphere" as cause of death. Bignole has not responded to that however, which makes me a tad suspicious, but at least he hasn't changed "is incinerated in the atmosphere of Earth 2" back to "landing on Earth 2" as he used to. Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 01:53, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Again, what appears in a special feature is not a reflection of what appears on screen. On screen, you do not see him dead in Jason X. On screen, there is no mention of continuity between Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X, and Freddy vs. Jason. The plot section is a reflection of what happens on the screen itself. Would you feel better if we just removed the "retcon" word from the second film? We can do that. Then there won't be an argument about which films have retcons and which are just continuity errors.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Here is where the original research comes in, there is no indication in FvJ that Jason coming out of the ground is meant to reference him being pulled under in Jason Goes to Hell. If that was the case, then the locations are completely different. The second part of the original research is even assuming that Freddy vs. Jason takes place in the same world. With exception to the basic backstory each character has, there are no references to previous films or storylines. Jason is considered a "legend" in Springwood, yet in Jason Goes to Hell he's clearly so well known by that point that it would be hard to imagine no one knows who he is except one lone cop and it's only been 10 years since he supposedly "disappeared". FvJ "indicates" that Jason's killing spree took place so long before that when he does appear it's assumed it's a "copy cat" and not actually the real person. So, a part from the film falling between Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X on a yearly timeline, there's no mention of any previous film to indicate that it has any relationship with any previous film.

In addition, the scene at the end of Jason Goes to Hell did not spark the creation of Freddy vs. Jason. The discussion of a versus film was being worked on way back when New Blood came out. That was years before Jason Goes to Hell was even a drunk glaze on the film franchise radar. Read Crystal Lake Memories, they were trying to get that versus film going since the late 80s. Once New Line bought the Friday the 13th franchise it was easier, but then they couldn't get a good story. So they made Jason Goes to Hell and Freddy's Dead to keep life in both franchises while they tried to figure a story out. Freddy's arm at the end is intended to be a gag, as stated in Crystal Lake Memories. When they couldn't get a story finished by the end of the 90s, they decided to make Jason X and intentionally pushed it back into the future so that it would not confuse fans in case they ever got FvJ off the ground. Then Jason X sat on the shelf for over a year before they ever released it. By that time, they finally had a story to work with on FvJ and thus it was released in 2003.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Again, you're both using a lot of original research to try and tie films together. If your statement starts with, "it's obvious" then you're already on the path of original research. If you disagree so much, feel free to start a discussion at either WP:HORROR or WP:FILM regarding what you would like the page to say, and why you feel that it is not original research to say such a thing.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:55, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Jabrona, I have started a debate thread under the talk for Jason's article, where people give their views on both sides. You might want to check it out. I'm sure Bignole won't be able to miss it easily. I must say, if it wasn't for you I might've given up but maybe together we can clear this up once and for all. Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 05:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)