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can you just delete everything about the article so I can stop whining? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.24.128.225|174.24.128.225]] ([[User talk:174.24.128.225|talk]]) 23:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
can you just delete everything about the article so I can stop whining? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.24.128.225|174.24.128.225]] ([[User talk:174.24.128.225|talk]]) 23:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

sorry, I still do not understand how this whole wiki works.
What I did mean was that Saaya should sue the magazine.
But should she not also sue the users who post this slander?
She won't, everyone seems to be going after the magazine, and if they have to pay the $150 million,
the magazine will obviously cease to exist.

what can I do to get the wiki page to reflect the trust about Saaya?


== May 2011 ==
== May 2011 ==

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May 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Saaya Irie has been reverted.
Your edit here to Saaya Irie was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=56276385691) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia.
If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 22:41, 15 May 2011 (UTC) you have been reported to Saaya's management! I hope she sues! The info you keep reverting could ruin her career~ You used a known bad publication that has been sued again and again! This needs to stop! She should sue for both harassment and slander@![reply]

The note you are responding to here is a bot. If you are attempting to talk to me, I'm below. If you actually are objecting to the bot's edits, please understand that it is not capable of response. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:08, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for your help... I updated the site again for Saaya. PLease let me know if you see any obvious problems! pedobot reposted all the bad information. I did contact Saaya's management! AKB48 will sue... they are suing for 150 million in damages.

May 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Saaya Irie, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted (undone) by ClueBot NG.

I did what you asked... but it reposted the bad information! Please make this stop!

Hello!

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for your contributions to Saaya Irie. The article can certainly use some improvement. :) However, I did notice that some of the content you've added does not quite conform to our policies and guidelines, particularly those involving living people. Basically, any content you want to add to Wikipedia has to be "verifiable"--that is, we have to be able to prove that it has been previously discussed by a "reliable source". We can't include our own opinions on things, although we can refer to opinions published in reliable sources. Usually these are things like newspaper or magazine articles, books, industry websites. It is especially important that articles on living people use only sourced material and only material taken from high quality sources. A few of the relevant policies to review here include WP:BLP, WP:V and WP:NOR.

We also can't include links to much that comes from Youtube. People who post on Youtube are often not really concerned about the copyright laws behind the content they post. While fans can certainly enjoy making their own tribute covers of professional songs, we can't link to them unless the original artist releases the song for that use. See WP:LINKVIO for more on that.

If you have any questions about any of this, please feel free to stop by my userpage, which you can reach by following the link after my username. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your note

Hi! Most of the stuff on the Sayaa Irie page is false. I am correcting it! They are using bad links to verify incorrect information. I consider some of the information they posted damning! You are posting links to child porn! The elk hart books are now considers child porn in Japan! Please quit reposting it! I am reporting it! Delete all the elk hart stuff!

and the part about Garo Aida needs to be deleted. He is nothing more then a glorified pedophile! None of what is posted about him ever happened!


Sorry about the youtube stuff.

The problem is that wikipedia will not let me post every verifiable source. If the link is in Japanese, it usually does not allow me to post...

The stuff about Sweet Kiss and Chase I posted in correct and was verifiable... wikiepedia blocks the link because some of it is in Japanese!


All of the Chinese links are bad! They post bad information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.253.2 (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contacting me about this, and I'm sorry that I'm late in seeing your note. I'm afraid that enough later messages came in that I overlooked it.
I don't know anything about Sayaa Irie (I have never heard of her before coming to the article), so I'm afraid that I don't have a clue who Garo Aida is or what's going on with the Elk Hart books. While you may be working to address problems in the article, I'm afraid that you do need to do so within policies and guidelines. Commentary such as "great movie, however they should really change the title! Not everything translates directly into English with the same Japanese meaning!" and "hmmm... only listing the Elk Hart stuff? These books are now removed from being legally sold in Japan. Strange that the individual who entered the above did not mention any of her new stuff." are never going to be appropriate on Wikipedia because of the policies I linked to in my first note. Presuming "the Elk Hart stuff" refers to the books "Saaya, Saaya 11 years old Fugue" and "Saaya, Pastel Time", I didn't put them in the article; they are unchanged between your last edits and mine (see [1]).
If you're having trouble posting links to sources, I'll be happy to help you. It seems that you may have been attempting to link to Facebook; if so, this is a problem with Facebook, not with Japanese. Most of the time, Facebook links are not accepted.
I'm watching your talk page now and will be happy to help you work through these issues. Please feel free to give me a nudge at my talk page if you think I have not noticed your reply. Things do get busy sometimes. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:59, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the stuff currently on wikipedia is using a bad news source... which has been sued by countless artist ...most currently AKB48. The information I posted was directly translated from Saaya's personal blog. The information currently on wikipedia is slanderous! It needs to stop! My info was all correct. PS, Sweet Kiss is a sub group of Chase... they have not disbanded, and the events concerning China are all madeup by that same newspaper... they never happened!

Are you referring to Monthly Bunshun? If so, I've tried to read the Japanese Wikipedia article on it using google translate, but I'm afraid that google translate loses a lot of nuance. In the U.S., we have some publications that are what we call "yellow journalism" (or "tabloid journalism"). Is that the kind of thing that Monthly Bunshun publishes, more interested in scandal than in telling the truth? If so, that content should be removed from the article. The best way to handle that is to take it out, explaining why in the edit summary and, if necessary, at the article's talk page. That way people know what you're doing. We don't handle it by commenting about it in the article, but simply by removing it.
(I removed some content from the version of the article that I restored because it did not meet our policy on content on living people: [2]. I didn't remove the rest because I don't know anything at all about the source or Saaya Irie.)
As far as the stuff you add, publishing direct translations from her personal blog is a bit of a problem in itself. :) Wikipdia's copyright policy doesn't let us do that unless we can prove we have permission from her. Too, that's a "self-published source". Most content in articles should be based on other sources, like high quality newspapers or magazines or industry websites that aren't controlled by or connected to her.
If you remove the content that you feel is libelous, explaining why, I should be able to then help you work further on adding material. But do explain in your edit summary what the problem is with the stuff you are pulling out. And if somebody protests the removal, it may be necessary to talk about it with other editors who are familiar with the publications to reach an agreement. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK< I removed the article explaining why. I will try to find not Japanese language sources for my other post. Again, those events in China never happened. This magazine is being sued by AKB48 for $150 million. Also, the info in Sweet Kiss is incorrect. Sweet Kiss is a "sub group" of Chase. They are still putting out music and movies. And the movie "girls no pants" I deleted because this movie was never actually finished. Saaya went on to a better agency, and this movie remains "banned" in Japan.

One more thing... the links to the underage photo books need to remain deleted. It bothers me that wiki seems to only remove her legal photo books. Those other books "Elk Hart Productions" are now banned in Japan.

A four-line window. The top line says "Edit summary (Briefly describe the changes you have made)". The second line is a blank input area. The third is one checkbox for "This is a minor edit" and another for "Watch this page". The last line contains buttons "Save page", "Show preview", "Save Changes", and a non-button "Cancel".
The edit summary field appears above the "Save page" button.
It's because of the way you removed it. You have to explain why in your Help:Edit summary (that colored text leads to a tutorial page), not leave a note in the article. The notes you've left in the article are similar to what I said above--they're personal comments. Wikipedia doesn't ever accept those. I doubt that the editor who reverted you knows much at all about the subject, only that your additions weren't appropriate.
By the way, writing stuff like this anywhere on Wikipedia is a really bad idea:"I am encouraging Saaya to sue for defamation of character! AKB48 is suing!". I assume you mean that you are encouraging her to sue the magazine. But people might think you mean that you are encouraging her to sue Wikipedia. This would probably end up with your account being blocked from contributing at all, since Wikipedia has a policy forbidding legal threats.
Let me know if you're still not clear on how the "edit summary" works. If you use the edit summary and don't add commentary to the article, you should be more successful. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:53, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

akb is suing the magazine... and any internet sites that host the slander.

can you just delete everything about the article so I can stop whining? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.24.128.225 (talk) 23:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, I still do not understand how this whole wiki works. What I did mean was that Saaya should sue the magazine. But should she not also sue the users who post this slander? She won't, everyone seems to be going after the magazine, and if they have to pay the $150 million, the magazine will obviously cease to exist.

what can I do to get the wiki page to reflect the trust about Saaya?

May 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Saaya Irie, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted (undone) by ClueBot NG.

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Saaya Irie with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. My76Strat talk 06:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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