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RE: Conduct of WLRoss

It appears that in the past, you have had some experiences with User:WLRoss (also known as "Wayne") on the 9/11 terrorist attack articles. I have started a Request for Comment on the conduct of WLRoss here and I would appreciate your participation in the discussion, if you can contribute anything regarding your experiences. Thanks. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 22:44, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Bibliographies

Thank you for your reply on my question on page about DRV of List of sources about claims that Vojsava Kastrioti was Slav. Will you please be so kind to inform me if there is a wikipedia policy which says that bibliography articles on wikipedia should be "either lists of books written by famous authors (Charles Dickens bibliography) or lists of books about major topics"?

Thanks in advance.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I respect your administrator status and more important I respect the number of edits you had and many years of wiki experience. That is the reason why I approached to you with my question. I know that page about DRV would be more appropriate place for this discussion, but I would like if you can help me accept the consensus that was basis for deletion of the article, before I take any further action in DRV process.

The first step in accepting the consensus is identifying one. That is why I asked you a simple question "Why was this article deleted?"

Your answer was because there was consensus about it

I asked you please take in consideration that "Consensus is ultimately determined by the quality of the arguments given for and against an issue, as viewed through the lens of Wikipedia policy, not by a simple counted majority."

You answered "this AfD exhibited it"

I asked you two questions:1) what policy this consensus was grounded in and 2) what arguments were brought to explain why that policy was violated

You said: Consensus was grounded in many policies like WP:POVFORK and WP:NOT.

My opinion:

• WP:POVFORK: Nobody mentioned WP:POVFORK during the discussion in AfD process, so it could not be the reason for deleting the article. POVFORK exists if "another version of the article (or another article on the same subject) is created to be developed according to a particular point of view." Deleted article was bibliography, not another version of the biography article Vojsava Kastrioti, so I don't see how can a bibliography list be a POVFORK of biography article, especially taking in consideration that I created two bibliography lists which support both POVs.
• WP:NOT: This policy does not even mention bibliographies, so this article being a bibliography could not be the reason for deleting it. As you said yourself, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works) covers lists of works by an individual. There are only two users that mentioned "bibliography is not article" as reason for deletion. Since that reason is not grounded in wikipedia policy, it can not be part of consensus that was basis for deletion of the article.

I am really more than willing to say, ok, there was consensus based on arguments grounded in wikipeda policies and that consensus was reason for deletion of the article. Till now, I haven't seen such consensus. If you did, please help me identify it.

English is not my native language, so maybe I am missing some point because of that. Therefore please have patience if I failed to understand some arguments.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

BLPs.

Re [1]: BLPs include "information about living persons to any Wikipedia page" per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, so the BLP template is valid for this page, and gets more attention than "unreferenced" templates. -- Jeandré, 2011-04-25t22:04z

Herbert Scoville Jr. Peace Fellowship

Hello,

I've written this article from scratch without copying or rewording anything from the official website. It is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Supertigerman/Herbert_Scoville_Jr._Peace_Fellowship. I was hoping you could give me the thumbs up to create this page again. Thank you! Supertigerman (talk) 00:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I notice that you removed

some text from Jim Gordon (musician). As someone very familiar with Gordon's story I am aware that the material that you removed is mostly, if not all, correct. It seems to me that a "citation needed" tag wold be a better way to deal with this material. I am on the road and not in a position to do much research but the details of Gordon's unfortunate life are pretty well documented. Hopefully you will do a little looking around and then revert your last edit and restore that section of the article. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay. So please take a look at this web site and see if it meets wikipedia's standards. it is the first one I've looked at, but the story will be the same. http://www.jamiethompson.net/jim_gordon.htm

Carptrash (talk) 00:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

More - http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jim_Gordon.html

And more: http://www.spinner.com/2008/07/03/twisted-tales-ace-session-drummer-jim-gordons-crazy-beat/

I'm hoping you'll say that this or that or all the above will suffice.
http://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-7/jim-gordon/

Keith Richards in his autobiography, Life (citation upon request, p. 133) states "and on drums was Jimmy Gordon......Eventually he hacked his mother to death in a schizophrenic rage and was sentenced to life in California. But that's another story."

Thanks, it looks good. I am about to drive a friend who just had brain surgery from Phoenix, Arizona to Dixon, New Mexico and am not in my best wiki mode. I appreciate your picking up my slack. Carptrash (talk) 15:39, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you check this user?

User:HXL49 has made a personal attack on my talk page. He also appears to be arguing in his edit summaries. Finally his user talk page, specifically once you press edit, appears to attack (for lack of better words) all other users. Ryan Vesey (talk) 01:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WU LYF

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WU LYF. Robman94 (talk) 18:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC) (Using {{pls}})

CSD#R3

Well "recently" is expandable ... and if noone noticed that implausible typo, what's the sense in keeping it? It isn't used at all! axp_de^Hello! 21:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

About 2005 US Open – Men's Qualifying Singles

Well, you reverted a tagging of mine on the article claiming that they were inapplicable, but if you looked back on the history, that you probably had gone through when you barred me on my talk page about my incomprehensibly CsD, you'd see that this article already went through a somewhat unresolved CCI case, I'll nominate the article for deletion, because it has many deficits for what it takes to stay on WP. Regards Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 01:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

AfD: Cort Webber and Bobby "Fatboy" Roberts

This is a courtesy notice given your prior involvement with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cort and Fatboy or its deletion review (Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 April 10) that these related articles are currently listed at AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cort Webber. As attribution issues are involved, closure of this current AfD may result in the restoration of the earlier article, as a list of contributors would be necessary if the articles are retained. Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Martin O'Brien

Hi, just a courtesy note that I have declined the Prod on Martin O'Brien because the subject has some clear claims to notability. I agree that it is a very poor page but I am not convinced that it can't be better sourced. TerriersFan (talk) 14:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, I've started an AfD here. Hut 8.5 17:54, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Alan Aranoff article

Hi. I was surprised to see an article about Alan Aranoff deleted. Information about Alan Aranoff is covered in a book about Israeli Architects. You can review a description of some of his work on the summary page at Barnes and Noble - http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Israeli-Architects/Books-LLC/e/9781156508411