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Note that if you want to retrospectively alter your signature, retarget a redirect or other really trivial change I don't really care. --Hut 8.5 17:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


About The decline speedy's: Not only does the author have a long history of copyvio's but everything in that site was posten before it was on WIkipedia. Can you look em over again? Thanks, - Milk's Favorite Cookie 19:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, missed that. It's just when I saw the user's history of copyvio's... - Milk's Favorite Cookie 19:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day of Spring!

George Samuel Newth

Hi - references have now been added - I was still working on the article when you mentioned them. Thanks for the prompt. 1952mgyb (talk) 16:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

FYI (PDF uploads)

List of PDFs, courtesy of MediaWiki's search engine. It peters out at about ~2500 to just images with sources containing ".pdf", but there's enough there to keep us busy for a long time. It's a pity the API search is generally borked, because results can be restricted to titles only. MER-C 13:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome. Zlllll (talk) 19:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi Hut,

Thanks for deleting User:Monsterclean. I wasn't sure if I nominated it for deletion correctly. I am still learning all the rules and processes of Wikipedia. Also, thanks for all your contributions and all your efforts reverting vandalism. Have a great day. Peace and Hugs Eclectic hippie talk to me 17:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again

Hey Hut 8.5,

Thanks for the Wiki Welcome.... I got to admit, I felt kind of bad that I had never received a "Welcome". I do appreciate your gesture!!! In the future I will stick with recent changes and not reccommending articles for deletion. It was a little complicated and a little bit of a pain too. Take care Eclectic hippie talk to me 23:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


Any idea why that didn't go back with the article? I had the move talk page checked. Thanks for deleting the rest. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 21:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

You are probably right as that would involve two page deletions at the same time. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 22:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


You must be really good at plucking vandals, because one of them honored you with a page replace on this very page.

[breaks into monolouge] Heh, this reminds me of the time when this one IP decided to replace my entire user page with... 21655 τalk/ ʃign 20:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Ayyam Pudhur

This was one of several almost identical articles by the same user. I thought the reason I kept seeing the same thing was recreation of a deleted article. Turns out there are lots of small towns with one government library 10km from Gobichettipalayam.Aiden Fisher (talk) 11:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Barneca/Requests for Jimboship/Barneca

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Barneca/Requests for Jimboship/Barneca, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Barneca/Requests for Jimboship/Barneca and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Barneca/Requests for Jimboship/Barneca during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. AzaToth 21:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Awarding Barnstar

Barnstar of Humour3.png The Barnstar of Good Humor
Aprils fools day was a blast. Loads of users lightened up to have good old fashion fun. I want to thank you for taking part in editing this page in particular and even though I may not know you, embrace the same talk pages, or even edit with you in the near future, I'd like to award you this Barnstar for making Wikipedia a fun environment in which to contribute. Until next year. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 13:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Alberti Cipher

I am the person who found, collected, edited, translated and commented all the existing manuscripts of Alberti’s De Cifris. I am obviously considered the undisputed authority on the subject of Alberti’s cipher within the philological and cryptological communities. The Wikipedia page “Alberti Cipher” is crammed with historical and technical blunders, mostly derived from a superficial reading of Simon Singh’s The Code Book. Simon Singh, in turn, is admittedly an ignorant of the art of cryptology, and based his chapters on a bad interpretation of old writings by authors also ignorant of the original text and of the Italian and Latin languages. The page “Alberti Cipher” is a bad product that can only throw discredit upon Wikipedia. Publishing minor corrections is impossible, owing to the false assumption on which the cryptanalytic hypothesis is based. The alternative is canceling the entire page or allowing appropriate comments after each single sentence. Augusto (Gus) Buonafalce

Wiki References: Alberti Cipher Disk (en) Alberti De Componendis Cifris (it). Disco cifrante (it). —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Article "BAL-AMi Jukeboxes" Deleted

Hi, I believe you deleted my BAL-AMi Jukeboxes item.

Please be informed that I am the copyright owner. I own the web site that the Wiki item was sourced from, and I wrote the history of this company.

I now appreciate that the item did not contain a note to document this fact.

Please can you reinstate the Wiki item, and I will do the necessary adjustments.

In order to verify my statement above, you may wish to use the email address contained in the contact section of my website and I will reconfirm to you.

Thanks for your help.

John Johnson Enfield, UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

lies vs vandalism

Maybe you should consider blocking The Cat and the Owl instead? In my view lying in articles is worse than "vandalizing" them, the latter is quite easily identified while the former is not.

Where ?

You've sayed there are not vandalisms. So, where i've to sign personal attacks and lies of user:Bill Thayer ? -- (talk) 16:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Steve Bedrosian

Thank you. These are teenagers, but they will be back. They aren't even very bright,who uses an anonymous ISP, to enter their OWN name? pretty dumb. EraserGirl (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Caledonia fair and wild

What have you been doing with Caledonia? It's not a dab page, it's a brief description of the ancient and modern romantic term for Scotland. Please also note that Caledonia (Roman) is a redirect to Caledonia, which is as it should be as it's a Latin term, not a "Roman" term. Caledonia (disambiguation) includes a lot of things and places named after Caledonia, but the original term is clear enough and a move would be inappropriate. . .. dave souza, talk 17:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, it seems to have been someone else who moved the page and caused the confusion. I think it likely that all of the non-Scottish links were to places named after Scotland, that sort of thing is very common. Some Californians I met on a train once told me of their surprise at finding Linlithgow in Scotland, as a place near their home had the name and they thought it was (American) indian .. dave souza, talk 19:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


For reverting vandalism on my talk page, and for blocking that guy. —BradV 19:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I've deleted his attack page too. Hut 8.5 19:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you think his talk page could be deleted as well? I'm not a big fan of what it says on there... —BradV 20:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I've removed everything except the block notice. It's in Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages so it will get deleted after a month or so anyway unless he requests unblock or starts evading his block. Hut 8.5 20:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. He said he was going to create a thousand new accounts to vandalize my userpage, so I'll keep my eyes open. —BradV 20:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Probably bluffing, but I can sem-protect your userpage to stop new accounts editing it if you like. (I can't do that for your talk page.) Hut 8.5 20:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks but I don't have a userpage. And judging by how quickly it all got reverted last time I'll be okay. —BradV 21:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


Does being a child of famous people assert significance? I thought WP:BIO stated otherwise. Should that have been a PROD and not a speedy as significance and notability are not the same? Beach drifter (talk) 19:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

internal links for Genetics of the Ancient World

thanks for your input on Genetics of the Ancient World...which no longer belongs to me, but I started it so have a sense of responsibility to insure it meets all quality standards. Please detail which internal links are missing to the discussion page and I will add every single one. thanks Hkp-avniel (talk) 14:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, so you can remove the message box about the request for internal links? This was your initial objection wasn't it?
Can you be more specific about manual of style? You have not posted anything on the discussion page. The first section of the article explains what Genetics of the Ancient World refers to and is followed by what is properly understood as an annotated bibliography see: for an explanation of an annotated bibliography. Many wikipedia articles list many journal articles in their bibliography section such as ancient DNA, but in Genetics of the Ancient World of the ancient world in the interest of easy and quick access to the data in the articles they are explained and summarized for easy reference.
If you can give me a point by point explanation with specific references to the wikipedia manual of style I will make the changes. thanks Hkp-avniel (talk) 14:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Phoenicia: I re-wrote that for the Genetics page

Hello, I re-wrote the explanation on Phoenicia from the orignal Phoenican page for the Genectics of the Ancient World page and then re-added it to you deleted my original writing? Can you give me a specific reference in the Manual of Style that says we shouldn't reuse good text? This is the same as reusing good code in HTML or Open Source. Hkp-avniel (talk) 17:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The style of the article Genetics of the Ancient World was intentional

You made major edits to the article Genetics of the Ancient World removing the most important content: the titles indicating which articles they belong to. I am renaming the section to "Annotated Bibliography" to avoid any further confusion following your suggestion to change the style of the article. Hkp-avniel (talk) 17:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

greetings...ok I think the article is more wikiconforming now, right? I'm wondering, there's no rule about creating wikipedia articles about a specific genetics articles that had significant impact in genetics and popular culture is there? For instance, the landmark article about the Cohen Modal Haplotype by Behar, et al, would be an wikiarticle about the Cohen study and its impact traced through various sources. Can I do that? thanks Hkp-avniel (talk) 07:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

ok about the header paragraph...I'll edit it (or someone else) to explain genetics of the ancient world and put the rest under a "history" section or something like that. Hkp-avniel (talk) 11:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Page Protection

Thanks for protecting my page. I'd appreciate it if you would protect my talk page as well.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 21:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Like you did for Jedi Kasra can you protect my user page and my talk page please? The K.O. King (talk) 22:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. God Bless!! The K.O. King (talk) 23:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Speedy delete request for CFL

The request hadn't been closed yet as the move had yet to be completed. The speedy deletion was followed through earlier in the afternoon, with the redirect recreated while I was (ironically) out to lunch. With consensus for the move to take place and, moreover, growing evidence that Canadian Football League is no longer the primary topic, CFL should be a dab page. But, as my request has now been approved once, and then denied twice, I guess there's no point in me arguing the point anymore. JPG-GR (talk) 19:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Request to restore Image:Gayl.pdf

Hi. Writing to request restoration of the cited page, Image:Gayl.pdf. I can provide additional biographical details and significance if you desire. Thank you for your consideration.

link to website

the link to the website I posted is not a spam site, it is relative to all the pages I posted it on. it obtains material relevant to the article on this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shervo (talkcontribs) 06:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

PDF viewer

Thank you for pointing out Image:California_State_Constitution_of_1879.pdf. I am currently converting it to a djvu file so that it can be used on Wikisource. To see how it will look, here is one I set up today: s:Index:Zwei-Plus-Vier-Vertrag.djvu, which is used on s:Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany.

Ideally, I would like to see bugzilla:11215 implemented, so that everyone can see PDFs without having to download it. I expect this will be of use to Wikipedia and Commons, as users will be able to work out which PDFs need to be deleted sooner. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Map pdf

I created File:Map.pdf. First of all it is misnamed, but also the file never really worked out. I was trying to generate a census map. I have no idea how to delete the file, so it sits there taking up space. Kindly remove it if you know how. Or direct me to Wiki help on how to remove the file. Thanks.--Pat (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Minima Moralia

If you have a moment, I would like your opinion on this matter. Reading through the Adorno article, I came across this dab page, the existence of which is nonsensical to me. There are currently no articles for either the "Romanian book" nor for the piece of musci---both of which entries connect to their respective articles---so, why do we need a dab page? Minima Moralia should go directly to the Adorno book, since this is the most widely-known usage. Given that there are no other relevant entries, the dab page should be removed altogether, methinks. What do you think? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 20:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I will do just as you recommend. Minima Moralia will be the Adorno book (which will require sorting out some redirects) and I will move the current page to Minima Moralia (disambiguation). I will get on that right now. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 20:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Done and done! Thanks for your advice. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 21:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for deleting the page I accidently made.    Juthani1    20:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


sorry that i tagged the page incorrectly i am new to wikipedia and have just heard that is what you do. can you give me any advice on where i can find the correct tags so i know in the future many thanks Christopher140691 (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Jamie walker

Hi - I see you reverted/declined my db-vandalism tag on Jamie walker (kayaker). I wonder why? It's obvious vandalism by a habitual vandal. Camillus 17:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 04:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Note re: Image CSD

Sorry for the spam, but seeing that you regularly list useless media files on Ifd I was wondering whether you could have a look at this proposal for a new CSD criterion which would make the job 200% easier. Thanks! RichardΩ612 Ɣ |ɸ 17:40, May 4, 2008 (UTC)

Change Of Image And Info

I hope that you can change the logo of Witton Albion F.C. by using this webpage logo.

It looks nicer than the old one.

I really really hope that u can change it. Ty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arteyu (talkcontribs) 17:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your deletions, which I requested.

Vitruvian Barnstar.png The da Vinci Barnstar
I, SimsFan, herby award you the Da Vinci Barnstar because of the task you did, involving the deletions I requested. Thanks. SimsFanTalk to MeCommons 20:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I will be recreating these pages, where apporpriate, but thanks again. SimsFanTalk to MeCommons 20:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

No. I sort of wanted a fresh user page. I also didn't really want anyone seeing the info until I get it fully published. Thanks for offering though. Thanks Again, you're a great user. SimsFanTalk to MeCommons 21:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Mitch Albom

Nice work reverting the massive vandalism on the Mitch Albom article. There was so much of it that I didn't even know where to begin to salvage the article. Well done! --Gundersen53 (talk) 19:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Defeasance definition

Hi. I undid your recent changes to the definition of "defeasance" on the assumption it was vandalism-- and then saw that you are not a vandal. So, I apologize for the false accusation. However, I noted that the material you deleted that you said was copyrighted did not appear at either of the links referenced, or if it did I didn't see it. Please note that I did not add this material in the first place, but it provides a much better definition of the current usage of the term and I'm just not sure that it appears at those links. I can rewrite this section if it is indeed copyrighted material.

Again, sorry to have labeled your changes as vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I did some further searching. It appears the material on was taken from Wikipedia, and not the other way around. The part of the definition including that material predates the original registration of the domain on 7/12/2007: —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


stop vandalizing good articles or ill report u to wikipedia.-- (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Global Alliance Insurace

Please do not delete this page.

We are the copyright holder and I am an employee of Global Alliance Holdings.

This company is listed as one of the top 100 Companies in Mozambique as rated by KPMG and that makes it a notable feat to be listed on Wikipedia.

Please kindly restore the page that was deleted.

Kind Regards

Frikkie Botha IT Manager Global Alliance Group —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbotha (talkcontribs) 15:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia as Sentient Organism

Hi. I've got this thesis banging around in my head that Wikipedia is alive - alive, conscious, and very, very smart. Vandalism is disease and the efforts against vandalism are an immune system. I'm looking for a place where a conversation like this might be going on - love to read it, maybe contribute. Do you know anywhere? Joesydney (talk) 18:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Rumsfeld letter to Clinton re Pollard.jpg

Please read my response to your challenge to the use of the above image. If you agree, please let me know which tag I should use instead of GFDL. Thanks Sh76us (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I changed the licensing on my page. Unless you object, I would like to delete the tag from the page. Sh76us (talk) 02:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

MfD - image

Thanks for the deletion of an image talk page, however I was confused because when I originally did a CSD G8, a warning came up that it was not appropriate for image pages. hmmm, so that I why I reverted back to a MfD, however you mentioned G8, so was I correct in the first place and simply should have ignored the warning? I'd reference the diff, but now that its been deleted, I can't. :) Tiggerjay (talk) 15:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Image talk:Fastpass availability icon.svg as speedy delete, deleted the page, but then restored it. If you are not deleting it would you reopen the MFD, or redelete the page. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 23:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Afds of Xgmx

Hi, Xgmx dontworry imgoodnow created several afds, two of them have been arranged and are now transcluded. But Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Image:Governor Kathleen Sebelius Official 2008 Photo.jpg and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Image:Billy Dee.jpg maybe should be deleted. Cenarium (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

It's okay, they have been deleted by User:David Eppstein. Cenarium (talk) 00:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you rename a page?

Would you be able to rename the page Coldspring Lane Light Rail Stop to Coldspring Lane (Baltimore Light Rail station) in order to keep up with naming conventions (and keep the current title as a redirect)?Sebwite (talk) 20:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. Hut 8.5 20:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

ThanksSebwite (talk) 20:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Moving pages

I noticed that you moved the temporary article of Hans Götz. Could you please do the same for the following articles.

Thanks. MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Shared accounts

I was going to post this at ANI, but since the thread is kind of old, I thought it might be better just to post it to your talkpage.

What's wrong with shared accounts? As long as all of its users understand that they only have one collective voice in what happens at articles and discussions, then I don't see what could possibly be wrong with it. As a group of tightly knit individuals who share common interests and edit similar articles, if they had individual accounts, they would have been banned several times over for meatpuppetry. Celarnor Talk to me 17:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for the thoughtful suggestion! It's nice to encounter a kind-hearted person such as you, in response to the ugly-hearted person vandalizing my user pages. Deli nk (talk) 19:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


How come you undid the revisions to my comments on the Michelle Rodriguez talk archive page? Those are my comments. I want them gone. The other user won't agree to removal of our past petty interactions, so I want my parts at least gone. I am removing them and they insist on restoring them. That's not their right to do so. Please allow me to remove my own words. Due to the fact that they are not within any article itself, it does not belong to Wiki and therefore is it is not against Wiki rules. Sure, it's claimed to be "highly disruptive" but according to whom? One other user who wants to dictate? Not right. Please just allow my past comments on the talk page to stay gone. Thank you for your time. LBear08 (talk) 17:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the revert on my userpage.diff It's nice to know someone's looking out for me. -Noca2plus (talk) 21:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Nothing 444's block

Why the heck did you block him? I didn't see him do anything wrong!-- Barkjo 14:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah...I see.-- Barkjo 15:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Alfred Heckmann

You are correct, response on my talk. Jeepday (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


What can I do to get user Mdsummermsw to stop following me around and trying to falsely attach me to other accounts, IPs, etc? It's getting really old that this person undoes every edit I do, constantly makes accusations, and when I try to resolve the issue peacefully on their talk page, disemvowel my words, leaving only their own. They're behavior of psychotic research trying to prove some point that I am various others is disturbing and dirsuptive and I'm tired of it. At this point it's stalking, harassment, and slander. I just want to edit articles accurately, I don't want to be stalked and harassed 24/7 by someone who lives on Wikipedia every second of every day and makes it their goal to declare withchunts for no other reason than ego boosting or lack of anything better to do. Hope you can help. Thanks. LBear08 (talk) 18:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


Thank you very much for deleting the vandalism by the person from IP (Sock puppet above). As you can see from the history on my page this person has made continued attacks to my page and other pages. Again Thanks and see you around on Wiki.--Sikh-history (talk) 08:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, if you could semi-protect my page I would be grateful.--Sikh-history (talk) 09:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Kari Havsland Jørgensen

You deleted the article after a mere 12 hours of it being tagged for speedy delition. Thus giving me no chance to counter what is obviously a wrong decision. Please restore the article and I can in 30 minutes put a number of references and sources in it. --Law Lord (talk) 13:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Kari Havsland Jørgensen

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kari Havsland Jørgensen. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Law Lord (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)