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☆ Congratulations! ☆

	☆ New Administrator ☆
	Congratulations I hereby award you, Worm, for successfully becoming a new Wikipedia Administartor! With over 120 supporters, you have got to be proud! Keep up the excellent work! You will do great as an administrator, as you have always done as an editor. -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 12:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Blimey that was fast. Did you have your finger on the trigger there? Thank you :D Worm^TT · (talk) 12:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I had the Successful request for Admin. page under my watchlist + with the new WikiLove, I decided "hey, why not?" =) Can't believe you're administrator! I mean I can...but I can't...if that makes any sense. Again Congratulations! New privileges and a mop, will do you good. PS. If you're not too busy, can I make a big start on my User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/MelbourneStar1? Thank You -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 12:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Of course you can, it's there, ready for you the moment you are ready for it :) Worm^TT · (talk) 12:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Congrats, sounds like a fine addition to the admin corp--SPhilbrickT 13:14, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

My very best congratulations. It proves that RfA is not broken when it concerns truly deserving candidates :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:05, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad your candidacy succeeded, welcome to the corps. I hope you have fun. -- Atama頭 17:40, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Slightly late congrats from me too. Just think, now you can do all your great adoption work with new users - and then block them! Hahahahah! -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Congrats from me too. –BuickCenturyDriver 02:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yay! VERY well deserved! Cind.amuse 03:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yaaay! Whoop, whoop! I'm so pleased about that! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 05:49, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you all, it's an amazing feeling when so many editor that I hold in high regard not only come out to agree that I am trustworthy enough to hold the mop, but also come to my talk page to congratulate me. Now, a few individual messages!

• @Sphilbrick, I meant to say, thanks for your comments at Sandy's page, I'm sure they'll help me with building any future articles.
• @Kudpung, I really appreciate your comment at the RfA, and will be writing a little at RfA reform about my experiences (did that questionnaire thing ever go ahead?)
• @Atama, I really appreciate you showing up, since I don't edit much in the same areas as you, but whereever I've read your comments (especially at the "drama boards") I've always noted them as some of the most clueful on the encyclopedia. So, your comments really do mean a lot to me.
• @Boing, thank you especially, your comments regarding my mentoring a few months ago (when I took on a couple of editors you were involved with) really confirmed to me that I was doing the right thing, so I really apppreciate that!
• @Cindamuse, all the help you've given with a certain user really does show, he's made significant improvements and I appreciate it. I also see you were quite perceptive on me not wanting to put myself forward!
• @Pesky, thank you very much, I hope I can be the admin you thought I already was!

Again, thank you all. I'm made up, I really am. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Great Worm. :) I would also strongly suggest that you be open to recall. -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 09:37, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Dya know, you're the first person to mention recall to me, which I find quite surprising due to my lack of experience. As it happens, I like the idea of recall, and will be open to it, once I choose which version. What's more, I'll go further and say that I will be willing for any future changes to the adminship role to be applied to me also, even if it does not automatically apply to current admins. (For example, if admins term length comes in for new admins but not existing admins, I will happily take on a term length) Worm^TT · (talk) 09:44, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations - to you and to Wikipedia :-) I'm very pleased to see you adminified. --bonadea contributions talk 09:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much Bonadea. I really appreciate your comment at the RfA, the skills you've mentioned are ones I've always aspired to have, though I don't remember doing them! Worm^TT · (talk) 10:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Hehehe, "administartor"... --Σ ^talk_contribs 22:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Damn and blast! If I'd seen you were up for it it would have been 121! Congratulations! Can I have a massive banhammer? I will abuse it. Pleeease? Benny Digital ^{Speak Your Brains} 12:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

LOL, thanks. :) I've not used my banhammer as yet, it's sitting there in the corner... I'll have to consider when to bring it out for it's maiden voyage. Worm^TT · (talk) 12:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Copyright question

If I take a picture of the cover of a book, can I upload it to commons as a free use file or is it still not considered my own work? Ryan Vesey contribs 04:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Not free unless it's a book you wrote. And maybe not even then. 28bytes (talk) 04:47, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. So it would be better to use a professional image I find on line under a fair use rationale and only upload to Wikipedia, right? Ryan Vesey contribs 05:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep. 28bytes (talk) 05:25, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Unsurprisingly, 28bytes is right on the matter of copyright. If you take a photo of a copyrighted item, the copyright remains with the original copyright holder. Glad that's all sorted :) Worm^TT · (talk) 17:21, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I thought it was still copyrighted, but I decided to ask because I hoped it wouldn't be. Ryan Vesey contribs 22:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Help Needed

Hi,WTT Could you help in re-promoting Delhi as a featured article. how can i improve that article? Regard's.. Roh^G ??· 10:20, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Mentor/adoption

Hi. I know you run an adoption school and there is a user that in my opinion could really use it. They appear to want to edit but are having trouble with Wiki-spam issues. Could you take a look and maybe offer to help them? User_talk:Since_10.28.2010. This will not be an easy one in my opinion, but if you do take it on then good luck.--v/r - TP 19:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm a little nuts, but I'm giving it a go ;) Worm^TT · (talk) 09:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Hello. I see your userbox says you are open for mentorship? Yes, I am User:Since 10.28.2010. A user who has been editing Wikipedia since Thursday, October 28, 2010. 00:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm looking into this. I'm busy today, but will reply tomorrow :) Worm^TT · (talk) 08:55, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Thanks a lot. I would give you a barnstar, but I prefer not to get reblocked for the same reasons. Thanks again, A user who has been editing Wikipedia since Thursday, October 28, 2010. 23:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks like I'll be taking you on Since 10.28.2010. Will leave a message at your talk page. Worm^TT · (talk) 09:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you An editor since 10.28.2010. 14:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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Ryan Vesey contribs 01:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

RcsprinterBot

I am trying to start a bot. I have read the bot policy, and the box at WP:Bots/Requests for approval/Instructions for bot operators, and made an unblock request at its talk page (where you can see what it'll do), but I can't really write Perl or anything. You may not be the botty person either, but I'd thought I'd ask as you're my mentor. And admin, who I look up to. Rcsprinter (talk) 17:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, well, let's take this bit by bit.

1. What do you want the bot to do?
2. Can it be done by something like WP:AWB?
3. Could someone else do it? Wikipedia:Bot requests

Depending on your answers, I'll see what we can do. (Am capable of running a bot, I'm a computer programmer, but I don't specialize in Perl and I don't see anything that needs a bot at the moment...) Worm^TT · (talk) 17:26, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Ze bot shall do:

1. Updating articles related to buses (my speciality); such as updating the lists of routes and formatting pages and things;
2. Help me with my projects, which will need lots of repetitive edits too tedious to do manually to pages, which will include: adding symbols to UK stations, disambiguating links and correcting grammar;
3. General bot work such as dating tags and stuff.

I know Smackbot is run by AWB, but I tried downloading AWB and it doesn't work on my computer. Also, I have no idea how to write Perl or any other script. Wikicode and HTML is about my limit. If you're a computer programmer though, I'm sure you can help. Maybe we could name it WormBot, after you. :-)

I'd like to do the bot myself. Be an honour. Do my duty to the encyclopedia. But I need the code writing first before I put it to Bot Requests for a trial, so... Help. PS: Sorry for always seeming to come on a Friday night, when you come off, but I tend to have most time at the weekends, so I do it then. If we didn't have that inconvenience, we'd be able to work together quicker. We also seem to clash on weekdays; I come on around four, when you come off. Oh well. Rcsprinter (talk) 19:52, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, but I generally try to avoid computer programming when I don't have to ;) If you'd like to try doing the bot yourself, it's going to be a case of sitting down and learning Perl - which is something I'd have to do too, if I were to. I'm sure I could debug code and possibly learn it a little faster than you, but it's not a code that I'm familiar with. Imagine you could speak English, French, German and Spanish. This would be Italian... so yeah, you might be able to see similarities, but you'd still have some learning to do before getting anywhere.

I'm quite happy not having a bot, it's not a road I'm currently interested in going down, too much work :P AWB wouldn't work on your computer if you haven't had a request accepted. Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. Assuming you have Windows, it is without a doubt the simplest way for average joe to get a bot up and running...

Don't worry about the whole ships passing in the night thing, it does happen and it could be worse! Worm^TT · (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Er... should I just learn Perl then? Or is there an easier language I can try? Rcsprinter (talk) 20:20, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm working with The Earwig to help me write a bot now, thanks for your help. Rcsprinter (talk) 19:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Email

Please disregard the commitment I made in the email. When I wrote it, I had forgotten the reason I had not made the commitment earlier, I will be gone for 2 weeks and will rarely be on Wikipedia in that time period. Ryan Vesey contribs 06:13, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

thanks Ryan. I'll keep that in consideration Worm^TT · (talk) 06:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

One question. Just so I can get used to the adoption process, when I am online can I help out some? I will continue my normal habit of helping and correcting the user but I was also wondering if I could respond to a test if you are offline. Since 10.28.2010 and I are in similar time zones so that would help as well. Ryan Vesey contribs 13:56, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Please do. If I feel you've missed anything then I'd add it and I'd appreciate it if you do the same for me. I've no problem with this being a "joint" adoption/mentoring, though I think it's probably a little tough for your first adoption so your time away is a convenient happenstance. But you're welcome to run through the course, as the similar time zones will help. Worm^TT · (talk) 14:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Delhi

Hello,WTT Could you help in re-promoting Delhi as a featured article. how can i improve that article? Regard's.. Roh^G ??· 11:46, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi rohith goura. Sorry if it appeared I was ignoring you, Iv'e just been snowed under for the past few days and I have been working through my walk page bit by bit. I'm afraid this isn't really something I can help you with, I've not managed to create a featured article as yet, so I'm not someone who would be able to give you good advice on how to improve it. What I would suggest is a possible peer review, where someone more silled in writing articles could give you more helpful suggestions. Worm^TT · (talk) 11:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Admins are getting lazy again

So, articles are not being speedy deleted. Do you want to take a look at my CSD log or wherever you go to see the articles that are tagged for speedy deletion and delete some of them? Ryan Vesey contribs 14:15, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, yes, I COULD do the deleting, but I got into this admin business to help with what I do, rather than to start clearing all the backlogs. There's only 52 there, and yours haven't been there too long, I'm sure an admin more familiar with the area will get to it presently :) Worm^TT · (talk) 14:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice one

...for this. I think you've got a promising candidate there - well meaning and enthusiastic, and just needs a little guidance -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Cheers BsZ!, 3 seperate editors asked me to, I could hardly say no! Worm^TT · (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Test done

I'm finish with my first adoption test Worm! 17:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by The computer rocks! (talk • contribs)

AWB

Hey Worm,

I just applied for AWB, thought I'd try it out. Could you help to explain it a bit more?  Adam mugliston  Talk  21:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Anything particular you were thinking of using it for? Worm^TT · (talk) 07:48, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Not really anything particular. I was just thinking it might help with the lists of bus routes, as it's fairly repetitive. I just wanted to try it out really.  Adam mugliston  Talk  19:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Template

Thanks for teaching me about templates. I just created this one and I could never have done it without you. Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Glad I could help! one idea would be to set up a "current issue" so that it automatically populates, sort of like the Signpost. What do you think? Worm^TT · (talk) 07:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Care to clarify? I am not sure what you mean by automatically populating. Ryan Vesey Review me! 12:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, my thinking is that there's always a "current" issue of the Wikifier, even if it's only released each quarter. If someone could transclue the "current issue" to somewhere like Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/News/Current, you could default your sidebar to that page. That would mean you could keep the sidebar on your page permenantly and it would update when a new issue is released - similar to {{Signpost-subscription}}. Does that make sense? Worm^TT · (talk) 12:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yes that makes sense; although I'm not sure how well it would work for our purposes. There are 5 subpages used for each article so unless we created Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/News/Members/Current etc. it would be hard to get to work. In addition, (this is all to the extent of my knowledge) in order to archive we would need to create new pages for the archived versions anyways. What I think I might do is to create a base template for the other pages in the project which can be substituted each time a new article is written. Ryan Vesey Review me! 12:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Just realised the sidebar isn't for users pages, but for the news letter! Silly me! Worm^TT · (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Quoting from books

If I plan to be quoting fairly extensively from a book, should I cite the exact page number for each quote in the references? I would like to group the references by chapter to work down the number of them considerably, i.e. quotation 1 would come from chapter one which would be cited as pages 1-27, all citations from chapter one would receive that citation. I know I can't just cite the entire book. Ryan Vesey Review me! 12:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this is where I fall down. If you're quoting, it'd make much more sense for you to have the page that your quoting from, but I understand you wanting to group references. I think the best solution is something like the solution used on Winter Palace, using a combination of notes and references. Have a look and let me know what you think - otherwise we'll have to think up a better solution. I might even suggest asking someone like User:SandyGeorgia what's the best solution. Worm^TT · (talk) 12:38, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

☆ Motivation Award ☆

		Wikipedia Motivation Award
		At times of stress, breaking point etc. you've been there to help me out, calm me down, and point me back into the right direction. You've motivated me to continue on with the project, which I ultimately thank you for. So, Thank You Worm! -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 13:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Date formatting

If I am writing an article about a British ship, should I automatically use the format Day Month Year or should I just write however I normally would? Ryan Vesey Review me! 01:53, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

There's an argument that you should use a British format but if you are writing the article from scratch, write however you like. Consistency is the most important thing - if someone objects in the future, they can change it all then. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Commitment to real life identity

How do I do it? Ryan Vesey Review me! 01:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

MiszaBot III

Hi Worm,

MiszaBot III seems to have stopped archiving my talk page, have you got any ideas to why that might be?  Adam mugliston  Talk  19:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The bot won't archive anything that doesn't have a specific date field on it... so the cookies and YGM will stay around until you delete them manually. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 07:12, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Didn't think of that, thanks!  Adam mugliston  Talk  07:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I thought that might be the case, but wanted to confirm this morning. You could also reply with thanks and a timestamp ;) Worm^TT · (talk) 07:41, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the Word to the wise on my RFA

Thanks for the word to the wise -- the process was actually quite enlightening! I learned a lot from all the comments and will keep in mind how much more there is to Wikipedia. ch (talk) 05:51, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit summary

Since 10.28.2010 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• Worm, as his mentor you really need to teach this guy to use the edit summary more often so that we know what he is doing exactly and won't be looking over our shoulders more often than we should have. Thank you for your understanding, best. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 06:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Dave, thanks for the suggestion, I'll ensure it's something we cover. Since 10.28.2010 has only just returned from a short wikibreak, so I haven't really had a change to work with him at all yet - but I'm sure you'll see a marked improvement over the next few months. Worm^TT · (talk) 06:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

• IMO, after removing his nonsense from my page, I sincerely think that there's room for improvement. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 06:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I can understand that point of view. Give us a couple of months, and we'll see how he's doing. Worm^TT · (talk) 07:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

• This could take a while, see his shite on my talk page. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 06:30, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you kindly

	Thank you for your support
	Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I shall endeavor to meet your and the community's expectations as an admin. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Yay Thankspam! You'll make a great admin. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Ambassador Program: assessment drive

Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.

In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.

Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:31, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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Since 10.28.2010

Look at this page. No this one. No, sorry, the article got deleted.

Here is some evidence of valuable contributions. Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:53, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep, that's me! (Got the word “insurance” stuck in my head now.) Thanks again, An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

It was a contested PROD, so I don't think it should have been speedy deleted. Ryan Vesey Review me! 22:37, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks speediable to me. As a dab page, it's not, but as a "list of insurance topics" it is as a new page duplicating existing information... which is what it was delete for. And don't get me wrong, it would have been deleted as a dab page too, but not speedily. Worm^TT · (talk) 03:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

“Distinguish” hatnote template

Hey, if you don't mind, I placed this. Thanks again, An editor since 10.28.2010. 04:36, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's likely it's going to be a mix up, but I'd recommend you leave a note here. Worm^TT · (talk) 21:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I would've, but he appears to be a retired user (last edit ever 2010, last edit on talk page 2007, you can check for yourself if you want). I took great care to check his history log. An editor since 10.28.2010. 22:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey, if you don't mind, I moved the barnstar to my page. View it here. An editor since 10.28.2010. 20:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome to, but that barnstar is going going to grow ;) Worm^TT · (talk) 21:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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IRC

Well, I'm back. You still fancy a chat at IRC? Ryan Vesey Review me! 22:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Need a question answered (again)

Hello Worm. I just discovered that someone having some sort of hissy fit deleted a whole article. See here: Rorschach Test. I reverted it, of course, and restored the article, but does one then do something about the editor? His fit is on the Talk Page, by the way. I've never seen anyone do this. Advice? (And how are you, by the way?)--TEHodson 05:51, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I left a warning on his talk page. In addition your wording was confusing. Deleting an article is an action that can only be performed by admins. What the user did was blank the page. Ryan Vesey Review me! 05:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry; I hadn't ever encountered this before, so didn't know the term "blanking." Thank you. Obviously I knew it wasn't truly deleted. He did it again right away, but someone else got there before I did and again reverted it. Can one get into trouble for "edit warring" when one has to do this multiple times??!!!--TEHodson 06:39, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

barnstar

Hey, another barnstar, eh? Or did I fail :O --Since 10.28.2010 06:58, 31 July 2011 (UTC)