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I think that the order in which Roberts' post-nominals is stated is incorrect. My understanding is that KG takes precedence over all others. Also, at some point he is referred to as "Lord Frederick," which he was not -- surprising to see here ignorance about the difference between a courtesy title and the title of a peer. [[Special:Contributions/71.146.92.124|71.146.92.124]] ([[User talk:71.146.92.124|talk]]) 19:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC) |
I think that the order in which Roberts' post-nominals is stated is incorrect. My understanding is that KG takes precedence over all others. Also, at some point he is referred to as "Lord Frederick," which he was not -- surprising to see here ignorance about the difference between a courtesy title and the title of a peer. [[Special:Contributions/71.146.92.124|71.146.92.124]] ([[User talk:71.146.92.124|talk]]) 19:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:VC takes precedence over all others, it is the highest honour/award/decoration in the British system. I don't think Baronet (Bt) should be before them both though. [[User:Woody|Woody]] ([[User talk:Woody|talk]]) 22:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC) |
:VC takes precedence over all others, it is the highest honour/award/decoration in the British system. I don't think Baronet (Bt) should be before them both though. [[User:Woody|Woody]] ([[User talk:Woody|talk]]) 22:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Stature == |
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mention could, I suggest, be made of Lord Roberts' diminutive stature [As I Understand]/ |
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.Nurse Eleonora Pemberton apparently saw his 'little coffin' brought down to the quay at Boulogne. |
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Autochthony wrote - 2255z 18 December 2011. |
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Post-nominals
Charles Hardinge also had eight. William Avery 21:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Lord Kitchener has 9 according to his article. He was as "royal" as Roberts. Peter1968 22:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- Lord Mountbatten of Burma also had eight (though he could possibly be considered royalty, having been born as a German noble but relinquishing his titles as a teenager), and I'm sure there are others who have as many; the factoid should really be removed from the article. By the way, Peter1968, you should really pipe your links on talk pages; Lord Kitchener takes you to a dab page. TysK 20:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Recently the file File:Frederick Sleigh Roberts, 1st Earl Roberts by George Frederic Watts.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 07:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Robertsganj
I presume Robertsganj in India is named after him. If so, this should be noted. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 01:13, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
WP:SAFRICA assessment
As a broad outline this article is an excellent introduction, but much is left out that could be included in a biography. Not everything need be left to the article on the South African War. The death of his son trying to rescue British guns from capture at Colenso was an important part of his motivation in travelling to South Africa and deeply affected him. Captain Congreve reported him bursting into tears -- which field marshals did not do in those days, if ever -- when Congreve described his son's heroic death. South African historians, Nasson, Scholtz and especially Wessels have written of his brilliant strategy of deception at the outset of his campaign in February, 1900. The capture of 4000 Boers under Cronje at Paardeberg, nearly a tenth of Boer strength then mobilised, was the major turning point of the war. On the relief of Kimberley the Daily Mail crowed, 'There is no one like Bobs!' [Roberts was known as Bobs throughout his career.] I hope it might be possible for the editors to include some of this detail to bring Roberts to life. ----
Assessed as C-Class. Just weak referencing letting it down. Ron2K (talk) 14:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Roberts' titles and post-nomnals
I think that the order in which Roberts' post-nominals is stated is incorrect. My understanding is that KG takes precedence over all others. Also, at some point he is referred to as "Lord Frederick," which he was not -- surprising to see here ignorance about the difference between a courtesy title and the title of a peer. 71.146.92.124 (talk) 19:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- VC takes precedence over all others, it is the highest honour/award/decoration in the British system. I don't think Baronet (Bt) should be before them both though. Woody (talk) 22:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Stature
mention could, I suggest, be made of Lord Roberts' diminutive stature [As I Understand]/ .Nurse Eleonora Pemberton apparently saw his 'little coffin' brought down to the quay at Boulogne. Autochthony wrote - 2255z 18 December 2011.
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