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Gledhill Mullen Item

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Model United Nations resolution

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Anstey Nomads F.C.

Why the revert? The edits by User:Leicestershire.co seemed a distinct improvement to me.--Michig (talk) 21:31, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

"Our first season 2009/2010 in the East Midlands Counties League saw us finish last but our good reputation helped us to not get relegated and we were to compete in the East Midlands Counties League for the 2010-11 season. Andy Miller joined us and brought new players with him and in his first season finished a respectable 12th position.... This season Andy has registered all of his players from last season and Nomads are in the F.A Cup for the first time in their history." Clear NPOV violation. I regret the possibility that I removed some good stuff in that edit; footy is completely alien to me, and I was mostly concerned with getting rid of the first-person fanboy rah-rah. Thanks for raising the issue. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Geoffrey Keezer

Need an Admin! I noticed a biography here about Geoffrey Keezer, but it had no infobox, which I added. I noticed it had WP:COI issues from it's inception and POV problems, too. Today when I had a look at it, I checked out the subject's website, and found every single word in the text verbatim. Given that this article was begun by Geoffrey Keezer, and stands as a sore copyright violation, I'm hoping you can resolve the problem. Thanks. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 02:01, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Your block of Petertriplett

I'd like you to at a look at [this thread and to consider the wisdom of your block of Petertriplett, on the very dubious ground of "legal threats". If you are going to act when people make such outbursts, you need to carefully investigate the reasons for the threat, ensure that any libels are removed, make sure the user knows we treat defamation really seriously, and feels free to communicate any further concerns. You also need to ensure that the user properly understands that the block is not a punishment for threats, or an attempt to gag them, but necessary if they genuinely want to pursue the matter legally off-wiki. Our priority has to be to act on any well-founded concerns about slander, not least because to do so reduces the risk of legal issues.--Scott Mac 16:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I've attempted to address your concerns with my post at User talk:Petertriplett. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Peaking Lights

Hi-You may want to look at the new Peaking Lights article. Also I expanded the article about Tamara Grigsby about her career before she was elected to the Wisconsin Assembly. Thank you-RFD (talk) 17:46, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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This was not about myself. Its an article about about a fiction writer.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buckinkb (talk • contribs) 01:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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Scdnr

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Hi Orangemike. I've looked over the situation regarding this user. There were obviously numerous problems with their additions, but I think this is a good faith editor who has simply never been informed of our policies. Yes, there's a potential COI here, but I really don't think they're here for promotional purposes (and let's face it, as long as they can edit within our policies, that article is in severe need of someone willing to improve it). Anyway, would you have any objection to me unblocking them so that I can work with them (explain how things here work, what is and isn't allowed, help them pursue DR if need be, keep an eye on them, etc.)? Thanks, Swarm ^X 21:49, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

They've been warned since September, and seem to have a severe WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT problem. From the spamusername to their attitude as shown in their edit summaries, I'm reluctant as all get-out to support an unblock without some serious evidence that they get it and will comply with our COI rules. It's not like there's a language problem: I'm a native speaker of Bubba my own self! --Orange Mike | Talk 21:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

They've contacted the unblock mailing list, to express concern that the article is "utterly incorrect" and that they were blocked rather than helpfully critiqued (they don't actually request an unblock). I happen to agree that no one made a meaningful attempt to communicate what exactly was wrong with their edits, and that is probably the main cause of their problematic editing rather than IDHT (templated warnings are utterly useless for new users). They're clearly an employee with the SCDNR, but bottom line, I don't find their edits intentionally promotional, I believe they're here in good faith, and I'm willing to mentor them, keep an eye on their edits, and reblock if they prove unable to appropriately. I hope this assurance is enough for you— worst case, it's a WP:ROPE scenario. Swarm ^X 22:17, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

That's good enough for this former employee of the Tennessee Department of Employment Security (which doesn't even exist any more). --Orange Mike | Talk 22:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

MegMaker

Hi Mike, MegMaker (talk · contribs) is asking for the block you imposed on her to be lifted. Her explanation looks reasonable to me. Would you mind if I lifted the block? Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

User talk:MegMaker

Hi, I've unblocked her - it's her real name and she was just updating links to her personal site added by someone else. Since you weren't online, I didn't ask you first - hope it's not a problem because her explanations made everything pretty clear. Max Semenik (talk) 06:25, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Oops, looks like I've beat Nick-D to unblocking and posting on her page, but he beat me here:P Max Semenik (talk) 07:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I have no complaints. I had not caught on that "Maker" was an actual name; I thought it was more a title, like "Wordsmith" or the like. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

thanks

That IP170 seems a tad clueless -- see also his "edits" at Talk:Boris Berezovsky (businessman) recently as well. Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Legal threat block of Petertriplett

I'm late to the party, but please see my comment at User talk:Petertriplett (and especially my request that you unblock the account). Thanks, AGK [•] 02:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike. I've looked at the comment that Petertriplett made, and I can see how you feel "I have reported this to the police" is a legal threat. However, given the circumstances - that the user was removing unpleasant WP:BLP material, that the user was directly related to the subject, that the user had twice asked for help, and had revealed that there was a history of harassment - a block may not be the best way of handling this. Our policy is that "Rather than blocking immediately, administrators should seek to clarify the user's meaning and make sure that a mere misunderstanding is not involved." It is quite possible that the comment "I have reported this to the police" is a rephrasing of the earlier comment "We do gave [sic] a problem with someone harassing Paula and it has been reported to the police in London." Given that it is possible that the user was referring to a police report that has nothing to do with Wikipedia or any of our users, a discussion with the user to clarify the matter, and to allow refactoring of the statement for clarity, would be more in line with our normal procedures. I am leaving a copy of this on Petertriplett's talkpage. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Unblocked based on this discussion and an effort to be fair to all. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:28, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Unblock

Hi Orangemike, I've unblocked User:Jmuenzing as they claim to understand the reason why they were blocked and have made an undertaking to not make promotional edits again. —Tom Morris (talk) 14:54, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Bit of help needed.

Hi Orangemike, I was interested in reading and perhaps editing Thomas L. Rhodes article. He is on the board (was on the board?) of Mlwaukee's Bradley Foundation. The article has a block on it from July 2011 that I have never seen before. It requires some sort of admin attention. Could you take a look? Also, go packers! Capitalismojo (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, apparently the previous version of this article consisted of multiple copyright violations, taking swaths of material from copyrighted sources such as his biography at the National Review. We need a new bio that takes information from more reliable sources, and of course respects copyrights. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Fan (person) article problems

Hi OrangeMike (Love that shirt!)

Please cast a critical eye over the article Fan (person). In many of its numerous sections it has few citations, and reads like original research or a personal essay. (Own emotional response: The worst aspect of an article like this, I feel, is that it seems so plausible. Part of its plausibility lies in that it's grammatical English, correctly spelled - normally Good Things.)

Since I have no expertise whatever on fandom, and no access to suitable references, unfortunately I wouldn't know how to begin improving it. Is there a suitable template I could place at the top of the article to request more in-line citations?

Thanks — for reading this! yoyo (talk) 06:28, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

At WP:TEMP you will find an exhaustive list of our template messages for improvement. For your current purposes, I particularly recommend the section to be found at Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles. Please go through those carefully, though, to pick the most specific and precise criticism of the current content. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Cracker Barrel again

Hi there, Mike. I noticed that you've re-tagged the Cracker Barrel article, although nothing has changed since it was agreed that there was consensus to remove it. Of course the article is "prettier" than it was before—but it was also quite ugly prior to my involvement. If you have content changes to suggest, that's one thing, but I thought this issue was previously resolved. I hope you'll reconsider it. WWB Too (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

As long as the Tom DeLay stuff remains censored, I want it made clear who is to blame for it, and what your motivation was. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:08, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Care.com article

Dear Orange Mike, when you have a chance can you please look over my Care.com article and let me know if it's ready for the mainspace? By the way, thank you very much for helping me develop and improve it.Braedon Farr (talk) 13:01, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to bother you, but if this article looks okay to you now, can you please un-protect it? I will then move it to the mainspace. Thanks!Braedon Farr (talk) 16:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Done and moved. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:10, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool 5

Hey, Orangemike! We'll be holding an IRC office hours session on Friday for AFT5 in which we'll discuss (amongst other things) the work we're putting into predicting and dealing with issues like defamation and BLP problems. If you could attend and provide feedback, I'd be very grateful; it's from 19:00 UTC until 23:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. If you can't attend, I'll be posting the logs and summarising what we discussed so other people can contribute ideas :). Thanks! Ironholds (talk) 16:36, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha; okay, I'll drop you an update when we have some concrete results, and you can comment as to whether the ideas are good, bad or need working on and I just noticed I'd been posting from my personal account. Whoops. Ironholds (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

"not the good one"?

An English officer and foe of the Fenians is "the good one"? We clearly have different worldviews. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:22, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but WTF ?

If you're talking about this diff, yes, the link was linking to John Michel, when the text is talking about a member of a science-fiction club. So, yes, the link was bad, and I changed it. To link to the right person: John B. Michel. So, yes, John Michel was "not the good one".

Try and think next time.

Pleclown (talk) 20:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you meant the link was bad; not that the left-wing fan Michel was less good than the Englishman. Sorry I misunderstood you. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Thinking of doing something potentially monumentally stupid.

Hi, I was hoping you could provide some advice on something that I’m toying with. Quite a while ago I was looking at the Babylon 5 article and noticed it was rather long while, a little surprisingly, at the same time didn’t really include any information on various production elements such as the costume, music, special effects etc. But did include a fascinating piece on what accents the actors used. ; ) I also noticed that at one point it was proposed as a possible featured article!? I spend quite a bit of time on the computer due to work, but there’s also periods when I’m sitting playing Tetris waiting for print jobs to finish. So a while back I started looking at essentially rewriting the article from the bottom up.

I’m no editor and can’t write for toffee (obviously), I also don’t have access to any of the print publications which could provide useful information. Could you take a look at the Costume and Music sections that I’ve typed up in this sandbox. There rough (and incomplete) but should give an idea of the direction I’m taking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Minsk59/sandbox

Ignore everything else. ; ) the other content is more for giving me an idea of formatting and a place to hold some rough notes, bits of information and ideas. Basically, am I going off on a tangent, and the content is not suitable for a wiki article. If so that’s fine, and I’ll start playing Solitaire as I’m getting sick of Tetris. If the general idea is sound then I have no problems in spending a bit more time attempting to put more content together, with the hope that more experienced editors will then duly rip it apart in order to bring it up to Wikipedia standards, and perhaps add further information, before even considering the remote possibility of replacing the existing article. Basically I’m not so arrogant as to attempt this alone. ; )

BTW. I realise interest in the B5 article is low, for various reasons. I’ve approached yourself (and two others) as I noticed you’ve edited the thing a number of times over the last year or so, and appear to know what the hell your doing. ; ) But if I’m barking up the wrong barge poll, please let me know. If you know of anyone else who may be interested in passing an eye over what is being put together, or who may have access to printed reference material, that would be most appreciated as well. Cheers.Minsk59 (talk) 01:48, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction

Good to know the quote is from Bloch. Sadly, if you type in your Google main page "heart small boy", Google's first suggested completion is "Stephen King". I should have looked further.--WickerGuy (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

The quote was also attributed to Stephen King in a New York Times crossword puzzle just this past spring.--WickerGuy (talk) 18:20, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Vicki Breazeale

I don't understand why you deleted my Wikipedia page. I am a scientist and a science educator. I was the first person to describe the key regulatory (allosteric) enzyme in the Calvin Cycle for my MS work at UC Berkeley: Sedoheptulose 1,7 Bisphosphatase.

I am one of the founders of Great Wilderness, a nonprofit, that is devoted to saving rainforests in Ecuador. I wrote an article for a law school in Washington DC on the future of Biodiversity on Earth. They found me on the Internet and asked me to write the article.

A colleague at Cornell wants me to help develop at curriculum for a solar village project in Ethiopia.

Please re-install my page for the future of biodiversity on Earth.

Regards,

Vicki Breazeale — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicki breazeale (talk • contribs) 20:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page, which is yours (mostly), unlike any pages in Wikipedia about you, which are Wikipedia's. Also: please note that Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Inspiration

Your comments on Jimmy Wales' talk page the other day, which I just notice, inspired me.[1]. Cheers, ScottyBerg (talk) 21:25, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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Relocated user message from your Userpage

apologies orange mike, but i have no idea about how to use wiki or how it's run. the offensive material has been removed for the page now so i'm very happy. have a wonderful and prosperous 2012! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieldb13 (talk • contribs)

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Article Feedback Tool

Hey, Orangemike. We've opened up Wikipedia_talk:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5#Request_for_Commentan RfC which, amongst other things, deals with who should have access to the hide tool; should we give it to rollbackers to expand the pool, or should we leave admins as the only people with access? As someone concerned about BLP issues with this tool, I thought you'd be interested in participating :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Removal External links

Hi there, I am editing the Clignett article, and was removing most of the links, can't you just give a person a chance to change it them selves? But you did remove some links that where allowed to use! You need to read this: Official links

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An official link is a link to a website or other Internet service that meets both of the following:

1.The linked content is controlled by the subject (organization or individual person) of the Wikipedia article.
2.The linked content primarily covers the area for which the subject of the article is notable.

Official links (if any) are provided to give the reader the opportunity to see what the subject says about itself. These links are exempt from the links normally to be avoided, but they are not exempt from the restrictions on linking. For example, although links to websites that require readers to register or pay to view content are normally not acceptable in the External links section, such a link may be included when it is an official website for the subject.

Official links are still subject to standard formatting requirements, such as rich media labeling and not placing links in the text of the article. When an official website is used as a source to verify a self-published statement in the article text, it should be formatted like any other reference used in the article.[5] Official websites may be included in some infoboxes, and by convention are listed first in the External links section. Use of the template is optional.

No official link exists for many articles. "Fansites", including everything from websites run by fans of a musician to a charitable organization supporting patients with a disease, even if they are endorsed or authorized by the subject, are not considered official websites because the subject of the article is unable to control the information being presented. Links to websites that are not considered official websites may still be justifiable under other sections of this guideline, e.g., Links to consider #4.

I'm fully aware of that passage. None of the removed links was to an "official link", since this family/lineage does not have such a thing as an "official link" or "official website". --Orange Mike | Talk 19:16, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, some notable people who were listed do have their own official wegsite and you did remove those, sir. The Clignett article is not done yet. I'm in the progress to make an article on some of the notable people who were on the list, and why did you have to remove the part of the coat of arms. The other admins did not remove that, it is suitable for the article. That's is part of the familyname. There was also a ref you deleted that was considered valid. --Clignett73 (talk) 16:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

1. The "official site" exemption is for an official site of the subject matter, which is a name and a family. There is no official site for a name or a family.

2. If and when there are articles about these people, they can be added to the article (if it survives the current AfD discussion).

3. The coat of arms did not have any kind of reliable source.

4. If there is a reference that you feel qualifies as both reliable and relevant to the article, then re-introduce that specific individual source; don't dump in links to every Google Books result for every book in their database that mentions somebody named Clignett. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

First of all, i didn't start this article. I didn't put all the external links in there, but the person who started this article. At the time you apparently deleted the whole section, i was looking at the links that could be of any use.

1. But for example, Robine Clignett [[2]], who was listed under notable people has her own website, you did delete that. There also is an article on wiki with her name listed Windward Passages under personnel, witch you deleted.

2. Well, you didn't even give it a chance to be sorted.

3. In the Netherlands, EVERYTHING pictures, data, etc. (of deceased familymembers) even the coat of arms. That is stored/ archived at Genealogy Centers, museums, any data base I am free to use, because it concerns my familyname, but i do have to publish the source which i have . (And i even have that in writing) The picture of the coat of arms didn't need any other source than myself, because it didn't come out of a book. I asked the employee of the Genealogy Center (CBG) in The Hague yesterday if i need to add a source to that picture and she said no, because i took it myself of the original which has been in my family for a decades.

4. I will, but i have a 2 year old that also needs my attention. Now, it will only take longer to finish the article, because you took most of the usable stuff out, and i have to re-introduce it again. Please, give me time to re-do what i had planned to add in the first place and then judge what ever isn't suitable. Thank you --Clignett73 (talk) 18:38, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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feedback on draft article requested & full disclosure of affiliation

I have posted a draft of an article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ELH7897/ELH7897/sandbox.

I have a professional affiliation with this organization, however I hope and believe that this article can stand on its own merits.

I'm posting this on Orangemike's user talk page because he deleted a page someone else created on this organization. I want to be perfectly clear that this is a different article and I'm a different person, however both the previous author and I were/are affiliated with the organization.

I understand that Orangemike is in high demand and that others help field inquiries posted on this talk page. I would be very grateful for any feedback or advice on this draft. Thank you!

ELH7897 (talk) 16:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)ELH7897

I will take a look and make some changes per WP:MOS. – ukexpat (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done and I will leave some additional comments on your talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 18:38, 10 January 2012 (UTC)