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{{unblock|reason=I admit to combative editing, and I would like to 2nd chance. [[User:Distributor108|Distributor108]] ([[User talk:Distributor108#top|talk]]) 03:51, 25 April 2012 (UTC)}}
{{unblock|reason=I admit to combative editing, and I would like to 2nd chance. [[User:Distributor108|Distributor108]] ([[User talk:Distributor108#top|talk]]) 03:51, 25 April 2012 (UTC)}}
:Can you explain what was wrong before and how are you going to avoid such problems in the future? I see 2 days ago you didn't understand it. [[User:MaxSem|Max Semenik]] ([[User talk:MaxSem|talk]]) 21:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
:Can you explain what was wrong before and how are you going to avoid such problems in the future? I see 2 days ago you didn't understand it. [[User:MaxSem|Max Semenik]] ([[User talk:MaxSem|talk]]) 21:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
::Mainly my combative attitude and tendentious editing style. I will avoid such problems in the future not engaging in edit wars, even If i believe the other party to be in wrong, instead making discussion on the talk page, and if the other editor is wrong, to pursue appropriate dispute resolution process without getting engaged in an edit war.[[User:Distributor108|Distributor108]] ([[User talk:Distributor108#top|talk]]) 11:10, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
::Mainly my combative attitude and tendentious editing style. I will avoid such problems in the future by not engaging in edit wars, even If i believe the other party to be in wrong, instead making discussion on the talk page, and if the other editor is wrong, to pursue appropriate dispute resolution process without getting engaged in an edit war.[[User:Distributor108|Distributor108]] ([[User talk:Distributor108#top|talk]]) 11:10, 27 April 2012 (UTC)


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Request for arbitration

Please edit in only your section and not in Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter section. I have moved your comment. If you continue to place comments there they will be removed or moved. As an Arbitration Committee Clerk, --Guerillero | My Talk 16:32, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your RFA

It appears someone has closed your RFA per WP:NOTNOW;. While this might be disappointing, please take a look at the comments in the oppose section, and read the guideline at that link, as it has some good advice for the future. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

April 2012

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for blatant vandalism and combative approach to edting, as you did at Sri Lanka. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:29, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Distributor108 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

What vandalism? user Boing! said Zebedee can consider DRN being filed on him Distributor108 (talk) 03:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The threatening, accusatory and combative tone of your unblock request indicate that you likely do not understand the reasons you were blocked and will continue the behavior that has resulted in multiple blocks. --Trödel 13:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Actually, the vandalism claim is a mistake; a different user, User:Joelcres, added your name all over the article. I have since blocked that account indefinitely for vandalism. However, in the meantime, the issue has been raised at WP:ANI, and a number of editors are worried more generally about your battleground mentality, your inappropriate use of dispute resolution, your edit warring, and, most recently, your attempt to run for administrator status, apparently thinking falsely this would give you an edge in your editing of Sri Lanka. As I said on the articles talk page in response to your response to my full protection of that article, I seriously considered blocking you rather than fully protecting the article, as your edit warring was the main cause of the problem.
Given the concerns that others have expressed, and the fact that only 1/2 of Boing!'s block notice is wrong, I'm not comfortable unblocking you at the moment. I am going to ask for Boing!'s input given the error; I've also raised the point at the ANI discussion. You can read that discussion at WP:ANI#Sri Lanka; if you have anything you wish to contribute to that discussion, you can do so here and I or another editor will copy it over for you.
In the meantime, I think that many people might be more willing to consider an unblock if you would address the non-vandalism concerns above. If you are unblocked, will you stop your disruptive editing? Will you slow down your editing, consider sourcing more carefully, stop being combative, etc.? Qwyrxian (talk) 07:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was having technical problems with that article, and every time I tried to do a diff or look at a previous revision, I got a server timeout. So I apologise for misidentifying the author of that specific vandalism. But I did also look back at Distributor108's history, and I saw evidence of a long-standing battleground approach, and so I think some sort of block was warranted, even if I got the immediate event wrong. Anyway, I'm happy for any admin to unblock without consulting me, if they feel they have enough of a commitment to approach editing in a more constructive and collegial manner. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Boing! said Zebedee claim that I have a 'combat attitude' is debatable, I don't believe I do. And given the Admin Boing! said Zebedee carelessness I should be unblocked immediately. Also I didn't see the vandalism earlier, but this constitutes defamation, I want a global announcement on the ANI informing all other admins that may have seen this ANI that I was not responsible for the blatant vandalism and it was due to Admin false accusation Boing! said Zebedee. I don't appreciate any of the comments from Dennis Brown and Ravensfire I would like an apology from both of them for their offensive and degrading comments directed towards me. Also comment 10 [here] was added after the RfA was closed at 14:39, 16 April 2012‎, disobeying clear warnings at the top and buttom of the paged " The above adminship discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it.Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page. "Distributor108 (talk) 12:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not to put too fine a point on it, but when your response to what appears to be an honest mistake is to angrily demand that every user be directed to an ANI announcement of your innocence... well, it's hard to disagree about what Boing termed as your combative attitude. I do concur, however, that you did not vandalize the article as such - and I have changed the settings on your block to reflect this. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Boing! said Zebedee has admitted to the mistake on ANI, which you can see by reading the thread I linked to above. The comments from Dennis Brown and Ravensfire are perfectly appropriate comments for ANI--they attempt to substantiate the claims regarding more general problems with your editing, and no apologies are are owed to you. I have reverted the additional comment on the RfA; it doesn't really matter, since it's not like it's a page others will see, but, on principle, removing it is correct.

Now, onto the bigger issue: finding out whether you can be unblocked. Ultraexactzz has modified the block rationale, and thus it is clear in the logs that you are no longer blocked for vandalism. However, the consensus at ANI, currently, is that the block for disruptive editing is appropriate. So, the question is, are you willing to do what is necessary to be unblocked? I am willing to work with you to see if we can develop conditions under which you can be unblocked, but before we can do that, you're going to need to start to give some indication that you understand why you were blocked in the first place. I'm not asking you to grovel, or to apologize just for the sake of apologizing. But I am asking you to take a look at what I said above, what I said on Talk:Sri Lanka, and what other editors said on WP:ANI#Sri Lanka. If you're absolutely certain that you are 100% right and every other editor commenting is wrong...well, then you'll probably not be editing here anymore. So take some time. You're probably pretty upset right now, so this may even be something that you want to think about for a while. Once you want to start to address some of the underlying problems, we can see if there is a way to proceed. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I fully endorse Qwyrxian, especially regarding taking some time to reflect. I hope that you will be able to be unblocked in the future. --Trödel 15:00, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I need some time for myself to cool off at the moment, when I'm ready I'll take you up on your offer to work together to develop condition for my unblock also I would like a develop a policy to which Sri_lanka page will be edited in the future. In the mean time, could you revert the Sri_lanka article to the revision which had the dispute notices, and add the line "however Buddhism is placed at the foremost place, and it is also a constitutional obligation of the state to protect the Buddha Sasana doctrine, all other religions and faiths have the right to practice under the purview of Buddhism.", It would be most appreciated if you could discuss context of the constitutional paragraph with the inclusion of 'under the purview of Buddhism.' with the other editors. Thats all for now Thanks Distributor108 (talk) 15:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, for 3 reasons: First, I cannot both edit the article and act as a neutral admin on it. Second, you cannot edit by proxy while blocked. Third, there is no consensus on the article talk page for your position. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There not consensus for the part of the line 'under the purview of Buddhism.', for the rest of it there is consensus, if you read the constitution it says it there perfectly word for word. I was asking you to discuss the line 'under the purview of Buddhism.' with the context of the constitution with the other editors. And there dispute warning is pretty resonable considering there are multply sources to indicate the content is at dispute, and the dispute warnings also having been endorsed by Ravensfire. Distributor108 (talk) 03:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Even if you are correct on that point, the first two points still stand. At this point, you are not editing the article, and cannot use me or any other editor as a vessel to do that. If other editors still believe there is a consensus for those tags (or the other changes), then they are free to add them back to the article. But it will be up to them, not due to your request while you remain blocked. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:08, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Distributor108 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

OK, I accept your offer, I'm willing to work with you to develop a condition for my unblock. First I'm still confused as what my 'combative attitude' is, could you show me examples of diffs, of where i displayed such 'combative attitude' and show me the correct way of responding. Distributor108 (talk) 08:52, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

If you honestly can't see that your attitude is combative, then I doubt that you have the competence to overcome the problems your editing has displayed. You don't need diffs to show your combative attitude: just look at your posts to this page since your block. Add that to all the past problems with your editing, including blatantly trying to become an admin so that you can abuse admin tools to your advantage in a dispute, numerous copyright infringements, persistent edit warring, etc etc etc, and I see no reason to suppose that unblocking you is likely to be a net positive for the project. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Distributor108, I'll respond in more detail later with steps forward. In the meantime, is there any chance that you could archive some of the stuff on this talk page? Especially all of the no-longer relevant deletion notices; it would make it easier to see what info is current. This is not at all a requirement, just something that I think makes it easier to handle user's talk pages. However, if you do remove some of the info, do be sure to keep this section (you have to maintain the block notice and all unblock requests until such time as you are unblocked). Qwyrxian (talk) 03:03, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK done, please move the archived content to the archive page, as I cannot do that due to the false block issued by talk. Distributor108 (talk) 13:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for mediation rejected

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Unblock discussion

(Regarding the archiving, I can turn on autoarchiving if you like, via a bot that just archives things after a certain amount of time; I set my page to about 8-10 days, but you can probably set yours longer since your talk is not as active).

So I think there's an way to start and see if an unblock is possible: what was wrong with your last edit ([1])? How was that tone inappropriate? Qwyrxian (talk) 13:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Thank you, Please set it to 4 months please.

I would prefer if we start with evidence which is from prior to my block. However with this diff, everything was true expect for the word 'false', however I see that you have removed the Admin names that blocked me instead of the word 'false', can you tell me why you did this? Also with regards to the use of the word false, I belive that is correct, because the post is signed by me, and It is a true reflection of my opinion. Distributor108 (talk) 16:10, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Distributor108 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I'm requesting temporary unblock to allow me to more effectively communicate with necessary admins on their talk pages et.c in order to formulate a condition for my unblock. I promise not to edit any Wikipedia article pages if and until those condition are met.

Decline reason:

RIGHT HERE on your talkpage is where the conditions for unblock will be discussed; period. First: read WP:GAB. Follow the steps. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Distributor, I don't know what you're talking about when you say "you have removed the Admin names that blocked me". I didn't change anything about your statement. The reason Boing's name doesn't show up is that you didn't format the pipe correctly (possibly just a typo, something erased on mistake).
But, assuming that was just a typo, I'll move on. I recommend you not make any more unblock requests; since I think the odds are very very unlikely that anyone is going to block you before this discussion reaches fruition, making more unblock requests will only aggravate other admins, and may even lead to your talk page privileges being revoked. If at any point you think that this conversation is pointless, then you can just decide to stop it and make whatever unblock requests you like and take the relevant consequences. Note that the same goes for me as well: if I don't think you're heading in the right direction, I'll also let this go.
Now, back to the discussion. I'm willing to, as you propose, "start with the evidence from prior to my block rather than my initial question. Generally speaking (we don't need to worry about specific diffs yet), what type of "evidence from prior to your block" do you want to examine? Are there some actions which you took that you think were particularly problematic? Are there specific things you did that you now think you should have done differently? Qwyrxian (talk) 13:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thats exactly what I am after, show some specific diffs that lead to my block. Then show me how I could have otherwise responded differently the correct way. I'm trying as best as I can to understand what you are telling me, but you have to first show me what I did wrong specifically. Distributor108 (talk) 13:23, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look at the number of reverts you made on Sri Lanka on April 15 and 16. Look also at your edit summaries. Please review WP:EW and WP:VANDAL, and let me know what you see as being wrong there. We'll deal with talk page issues later. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:10, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I never committed WP:VANDAL on the Sri lanka article, the changes I made were what I believed were legitimate changed back up by verifiable sources. I may along with some other editors violated the 3RR, however this does not justify the handed sentence. Distributor108 (talk) 12:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct that you did not commit vandalism...but you called two good faith edits vandalism (see edit summaries on [2] and [3]). That's a problem. Regarding reverts, SriSuren hit 4 reverts, but you hit 6 reverts, and no one else crossed three. This is just after, the day before, when you had edit warred against a well-established consensus (that I had to revert you on). Basically, every single time you make a change to the article, before you discuss it, you start edit warring. Then, either simultaneous with that discussion or after it, you finally get around to discussing, but you keep reverting at the same time. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:03, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Are you aware that Wikipedia policy requires facts to be verified before they are added, hence having Tamil as an official language is an 'addition', We have a reliable source to prove that Tamil is not an official language, we also have a source to prove that it is. Hence whether Tamil is an official language is at dispute, then the most appropriate action would be to leave it out until the dispute is settled. do you agree? Distributor108 (talk) 13:10, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, I do not. The correct choice is to not edit war. The default state should always be the article prior to the dispute (except in cases of vandalism or potential BLP violations or other extreme POV concerns), which here would be "Tamil" being included (it had been in the article for what looks like a long time, not a recent addition). So, you haven't addressed the use of the word "vandal" yet, and you haven't addressed the edit warring. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have address the word of vandal in my previous edit, if this not what you are after what exactly do you want me to address? Can you define what is a long time? would a few months be considered a long time? I admit that I and another editor had violated the 3RR, and we were both subsequently issued warnings, to which I adhered. Distributor108 (talk) 07:24, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You have not explained why you called two good faith edits vandalism (see links above). And while you followed the 3RR warning, your message on 13:10 22 April shows that you have not understood the underlying message about edit warring. You seem to still be insisting that as long as you hadn't broken 3RR, your edit warring was acceptable. In fact, what I see here is that your only goal is to return to editing, while admitting to as little as possible. It doesn't feel to me like you have any interest in improving your behavior, or even attempting to figure out what you did wrong. And we haven't even got to the bigger issues of your tendentiousness on talk pages. Frankly, I'm not sure that this is worth the effort on my part, because if you are unwilling to consider that you may have been profoundly wrong (such that a clear consensus emerged on ANI that your behavior was disruptive) I don't see a clear path forward. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am willing to find what I actually did wrong, otherwise I would not be talking to you, would I? Regarding those to edits, the reason I marked them as vandalism was because I had provided a legitimate source to dispute its inclusion, and I previously removed the content in accordance to Wikipedia policy, if the inclusion of some content is at dispute then the content should be excluded until the dispute is resolved. I had explained that the inclusion of Tamil as an official language is contested, and therefore it has been removed and to not include it until the matter is discussed. As the other editor refused to participate in any discussion and continuously kept adding Tamil as an official language, i had presumed it to be an attempt at vanderlism. If this presumption is not true, then I admit that my allegation was unfounded. Distributor108 (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You don't seem to understand what vandalism is - please read WP:VANDAL. What you were involved in was a content dispute.

Examples of typical vandalism are adding irrelevant obscenities and crude humor to a page, illegitimately blanking pages, and inserting obvious nonsense into a page.

A disagreement about what the content of a page should be for which their are conflicting sources is NEVER vandalism. In the example you give, if there is conflicting authority their should be 3rd party sources that document that conflict. The disagreement (if it is notable) should be included in the text of the article. However, the danger I see here is that there is a possibility of original research since all I've seen is that source A says this and source B says this and your efforts to remove Tamil appear to be a synthesis of primary material. If Tamil was the official language and now it is not, the change should be documented (by news coverage of the event). A government produced document that leaves Tamil off the list of official languages may not meet the reliable sources standard. It appears from my brief review, that there is sufficient 3rd party sources that Tamil is an official language including independent coverage of the decision to include Tamil. If it has been removed, I would expect there to be similar reliable sources documenting the change. The way Wikipedia works, if there isn't 3rd party sources that document the change/fact, then it doesn't matter if it is true. In other words, even if it is true that Tamil is no longer an official language, if it can't be independently verified and documented (and not by a primary source that is biased and disputed by independent sources), then it will be difficult to reach consensus to include the material (at best the dispute could be noted in the text but not removed from the infobox - but even noting it in the text could have WP:OR and WP:SYNTH issues as described above). --Trödel 12:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am the one providing an independent 3rd party source, it is the other editor who seems to rely on a government sourceDistributor108 (talk) 12:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And with your 08:38 edit, you have just demonstrated complete WP:IDHT behavior. Despite the fact that I've already linked to WP:VANDAL and already told you it was wrong, you're still calling the edits vandalism. Despite the fact that I already told you that the idea that "if the inclusion of some content is at dispute then the content should be excluded until the dispute is resolved" is not policy, you're still saying it's appropriate Wikipedia behavior. You're exhibiting all of the same problems that got you blocked. And we haven't even got to the bigger problems yet. I don't think there's anything I can do here. Feel free to request another unblock, though you really out to read WP:GAB first along with the policies that lead to the block. But I sincerely doubt that anyone will be willing to unblock you, so you're probably better off trying to take advantage of our WP:STANDARDOFFER--go contribute on some other Wikimedia project for several months, prove you actually know how to follow the rules, and come back here in 6 months before asking for an unblock. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:11, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Does this line If this presumption is not true, then I admit that my allegation was unfounded. mean nothing to you? Distributor108 (talk) 13:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This last comment is unhelpful - as to your comment to my remarks - try scanning through this all I see is evidence that Tamil is an official language with some accusations that it is in name only. --Trödel 13:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Trödel I suggest your read up on WP Verifiability and reliable source policy. As you seem to be misguided as you attempting to associate blogs and forums as reliable source. Distributor108 (talk) 13:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Try this link & this one for full archives inlcuding articles by Bloomberg, etc. I apologize that when I pasted the link above, it didn't keep the restrictions to news sources only. --Trödel 14:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your link, here are some quotes from the sources your link provides. "that formally enshrined Buddhism as the state religion and Sinhala as the only official language." "changing the official language from English to Sinhala and alienating the Tamil" and only once source seems to claim tamil as a national language, "National Languages of Sri Lanka shall be Sinhala and Tamil. A Member of Parliament or a member of a Provincial Council or a local authority" which is also supported by the independent source I provided. [The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)] I quote Sinhala (official and national language) 74%, Tamil (national language) 18%, other 8% Distributor108 (talk) 14:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Trödel, if you wish to discuss the content issue, please do so at Talk:Sri Lanka--Distributor108 is blocked, and can not be participating in content discussions. At this point, Distributor108, you can use this page to request an unblock, and that's about it. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:26, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you explain what was wrong before and how are you going to avoid such problems in the future? I see 2 days ago you didn't understand it. Max Semenik (talk) 21:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Mainly my combative attitude and tendentious editing style. I will avoid such problems in the future by not engaging in edit wars, even If i believe the other party to be in wrong, instead making discussion on the talk page, and if the other editor is wrong, to pursue appropriate dispute resolution process without getting engaged in an edit war.Distributor108 (talk) 11:10, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving

Forgive the brief interjection ... Distributor108, I'm working on setting up your archiving for you using MiszaBot. Should be setup shortly and will run at some point later today, but usually not immediately (or soon). Ravensfire (talk) 16:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the archiving is setup to grab anything that's older than 120 days and archive it. I went ahead and marked your Welcome message with a Do Not Archive template in case you want to keep that one around as a nice marker, but just revert that edit to archive it if you want. If there are any problems, or the archive doesn't get as much as you'd like, just post here and I'll move it over for you. Ravensfire (talk) 16:36, 19 April 2012 (UTC) [reply]
Thanks for that Ravensfire Distributor108 (talk) 16:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just one more thing, as I was trying to archive, I must have did something to cause me not be able to edit individual sections on my talk page. How can I fix this?Distributor108 (talk) 16:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I saw that too. I'm not totally sure. It may be from the hatting, but it looks like you did that right. I'm hoping that the archiving will fix it. I did a WP search on help pages and there was something from 2010 that mentioned transcluded templates that used the no edit section magic word (not reproducing it here, obviously!). That might be the issue as well. There was also a section that started with a colon which is unusual, so I removed that, just in case. I'll check on it tomorrow after the archiving. Ravensfire (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Bah - the no edit section magic word was the problem. Noticed it was I was looking through the page - you had added the talk page archive template which is normally only used for archives, where you don't want the new section or edit section links. I've removed that with this edit and things should be back to normal. Ravensfire (talk) 22:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Except that didn't do it. Grrr. Okay, I'll look at it tomorrow, hoping that the archiving helps. I'm assuming that everything currently hatted you'd like archived, even if the bot doesn't grab it? Any other sections? Ravensfire (talk) 22:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think if you moved that collapsed section into an archive it help the clarity of the talk page, I cant do this due to my block. And thanks for your assistance with my talk page. Distributor108 (talk) 04:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the problem was the {{talk archive}} template. That made the system think this was itself an archive, which is what was suppressing the section editing. Miszabot will automatically archive the old stuff (you can set the time to whatever you like). Qwyrxian (talk) 13:06, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nuts - I thought I'd removed that. Sorry 'bout that, didn't have the time to really check into that, but glad it got taken care of. I've gone ahead and manually archived everything that was hatted to the Archive 1 talk page. Take a look at {{Archive box}} for some templates you can add to this page to make navigating to your archives easy.
Where is my Archive? Distributor108 (talk) 11:28, 22 April 2012 (UTC)][reply]
It's at User talk:Distributor108/Archive 1. I've tweaked the archive box to UserTalkArchiveBox and set the auto=yes parameters so it will show the archive links. If you don't like the collapsed look, just change the template to ArchiveBox. Ravensfire (talk) 23:18, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thanks for your contribution Distributor108 (talk) 13:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are the exact opposite of teamwork, and you go ahead and grant yourself a teamwork award? You don't give yourself an award - they're earned (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:30, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Sri Lanka Demographics" arbitration case declined

Please be advised that the "Sri Lanka Demographics" arbitration case, to which you were named as a party, has been declined. On behalf of the arbitration committee, Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:55, 22 April 2012 (UTC).[reply]