Talk:Paul Lynde

Gay

Okay, so Paul Lynde was gay. It doesn't need to be in the article twice, as in, "Paul Lynde was a gay American actor and comedian" and again at the end, "Paul Lynde was gay." That's just poor writing/editing, any gay pride considerations aside. And, he does belong in the category "Gay people" if Wikipeida is going to have such a category, and it seems to be decided that it will (even though I tend to agree with the comment that is something like having a category "white people"). A better question: Does it belong in the article that he generally played sterotypical gay characters who were flamboyant and somewhat "swishy", even where the characters' sexualities were never referred to or at issue? Rlquall 17:29, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Twice? I count 15 uses of 'gay' in five short paragraphs. Someone's being a big silly. :) Cheers, Madmagic 04:55, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

He actually played all straight characters. I know that in his television show, they made a point for him to have a wife and daughter. Mike H 07:51, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

I have repaired this page, making use of a thesarus and putting more emphasis on Paul Lynde as an actor rather than Paul Lynde the Gay Guy who happened to be an actor. Remember, being gay makes you just as special as being straight...it's what you do with it that ccounts. If there are any issues with this edit, please feel free to e-mail me at stowsux@hotmail.com. Guest User: PsychoDale 14:54 May 5, 2005 (EST)

Rumor

Whoever wrote, "A story that Lynde died while using poppers during sex with a male prostitute, who left and did not call the police, has no basis in truth." I would be very interested in seeing a source. Sarcasticus 13:31, Nov 15 2005 (EST)

Still no source - I'm excising it. When a source comes along, someone can put it back in. Fishhead64 05:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Rotten.com's library, which is surprisingly accurate, states the claim, sans prostitute. The same applies for NNDB. Here's an excerpt from the former: "One night in January of 1982, Paul missed a dinner appointment with a group of long-time friends. Concerned, they rushed to his home on North Palm Drive in Beverly Hills. He was found naked and dead, surrounded by amyl-nitrate poppers, an inhalant used primarily by gay men to enhance sex. His death was ruled a heart attack." --AWF

It was mentioned on the E! True Hollywood Story "Hollywood Squares". They mentioned that the rumor was false on the show.--67.85.214.140 23:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Gay icons

In order for this person to remain in Category:Gay icons, the article needs to mention this "fact" in the body and cite reliable sources to support it. The fact the man is gay and matched gay stereo-types, doesn't make him a gay icon. We need a notable source, to actual use the term "gay icon" when referring to him. --Rob 17:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed material

I removed the "Hollywood Squares quips" section from the page. If you feel that this was in error, you're welcome to put it back on the page. As it stands, however, the section was not encyclopedic, and there already is a link to it on the Rotten page in the external links section (from where, without citation, it was taken.) Contrary to what the overeager Ryulong says, my removal of it was not vandalism and does not "compromise the integrity of [the] page." Quite the contrary, including a list of quips on an encyclopedia page compromises the integrity of the article: if one of them is deemed particularly amusing, however, they can be placed in a "Quotes" section. 66.229.160.94 01:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking of removing the Samurai Pizza Cats and Talking Mirror trivia bits. I don't know the talking mirror but the Big Cheese is obvously a Lynde imitation. But just cause the characters have squawky, nasal effeminate voices doesn't mean they should be listed without reference. 68.166.66.164 13:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I must agree with 66.229.160.94 01 how can we get this section removed permanantly ( it has been tagged since August) 68.48.57.3 (talk) 20:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Lynde.jpg

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His comments on Hollywood Squares are what made him most famous. It showcased his timing and wit. It should remain. gschlinkert 2/18/2007

Hollywood Squares was taped at NBC in Burbank, never at Universal Studios. Camop-7/9/2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.230.144.240 (talk) 23:11, 9 July 2009 (UTC) 

Emmy Awards

I switched the infobox over to the actor version, which has a field for Emmy Awards. I see lots of notes in various biographies that Lynde won two Emmy Awards for his work on Hollywood Squares, but I'd like to put the details (year and specific award) into the infobox. I haven't had any luck finding the specifics though; if anybody has them, it'd be great if you could add it to the infobox. Brad E. Williams 15:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

i removed the text regarding the emmy awards altogether. all 'reliable' sources on the matter including the emmys site , the envelope please, imdb, and amg have no record whatsoever of lynde ever receiving an emmy.--emerson7 16:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Where is the source that he was gay

It should be insulting to any gay person, that because he acted like the stereotipical image of the 'gay queen' that he must be gay. I'm not saying he's not gay, but I know men who talk like and have the same mannerisms that aren't gay. Please site sources. J. D. Hunt (talk) 00:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

He was outed by Boze Hadleigh in his 1996 book Hollywood Gays: Conversations with Cary Grant, Liberace, Tony Perkins, Paul Lynde, Cesar Romero, Brad Davis, Randolph Scott, James Coco, William Haine. Lynde's homosexuality isn't in any sort of dispute, but if you'd like a source, that's a starting point. --Jere7my (talk) 06:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, then Liberace should be labelled as such but there's a huge debate on his discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.27.204 (talk) 04:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

BetacommandBot (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Longtime Companion

"The two had been drinking for hours before 24-year old Bing Davidson either jumped or fell eight stories."

"Lynde is interred next to his brother Johnny and long-term companion, Bing Davidson..."

Um. Bing Davidson was 24 years old when he died. Longterm companion here implies that Paul started dating him when the guy was like 3 years old.

Randal Oulton (talk) 11:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

"Um"? You don't sound very certain. — Walloon (talk) 02:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I notice that a photo of Lynde's grave shows the names of Johnny and Helen on it (two of Lynde's siblings), not Davidson. Is Davidson really buried next to Lynde? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.189.169.190 (talk) 19:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Davidson was buried next to the Lynde plot. See this link: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=17104026 Clockster (talk) 01:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, now that I see this has been removed, I'll add the part about Bing's grave back in along with the source. Clockster (talk) 01:54, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The article is correct in that Paul Lynde is buried in Amity, Ohio; however. clicking the Amity, Ohio link goes to the wrong Amity, Ohio. He is buried in Amity Cemetery (Amity, Ohio) in Knox County, north of Mt. Vernon. The cemetery is off Rt. 3, and his gravestone can be seen from the short road going past the cemetery. I believe (but I'm not certain, it having been years since I've been there) that he is buried near his parents, in addition to siblings. Paul Lynde and my stepfather were in the same class at Mt. Vernon Senior High School, and Paul'ts brother-in-law, Ralph Rice, was one of my high school history teachers. I would change the Amity, Ohio link, but don't know how to do so. 24.140.146.16 (talk) 00:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

What kind of drug abuse?

What drugs did he abuse? (Schweinkenstein (talk) 13:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC))

Donnie & Marie

Shouldn't the Television section include references to his frequent guest appearances on the Donnie & Marie show as "Carroll Crump," an author-explorer who would do a monologue that inevitably ended with him in some dangerous yet hilarious predicament? 76.21.8.213 (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Age at death

If he was born in '26 and died in '82 I doubt he was 54. Is it the years or age that's wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.212.241 (talk) 05:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

DOB

According to findagrave.com his year of birth is 1927 not 1926Benjito (talk) 18:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Northwestern U racism incident

Not sure if this is significant enough to go in the article, but I've seen a few references (in interviews and such) to Paul Lynde getting in trouble late in his career due to an incident where he made racist remarks to a black professor from Northwestern at a Burger King. The details were always vague, so I thought maybe it was an urban legend, but I've found a contemporary source for the incident. It's a November 1977 copy of Jet magazine on Google books. Paul Lynde had led a Homecoming parade at Northwestern earlier that day, and made the offensive remarks to sociology professor James P. Pitts, who happened to be in line at Burger King behind him. --99.165.91.202 (talk) 01:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Queer Duck: Is It Notable?

Queer Duck is a three-minute TV short, of which 20 episodes were ever made, 20 years after Paul Lynde's death, plus a "feature film" that appeared on the LOGO channel...? Why is this show notable, as opposed to, say, episodes of Bewitched, Hollywood Squares, and cartoons using Lynde's voice work that are still airing today? Jessemckay (talk) 22:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Paul Lynde & Alice Ghostley

I have watched and been a fan of Bewitched since early childhood. I remember being told or reading somewhere that Lynde and Ghostley were in fact brother & sister. But neither is mentioned under the sub-headings "Personal Life". Can someone verify this please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.128.6.161 (talk) 06:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How did he pronounce his name? Was the y long (as in "line") or short (as in "linear")? Was it one or two syllables ("Lin-dee"?) Thanks, 207.237.243.185 (talk) 05:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

It's pronounced with a short I sound, as in "linear" --- like the woman's name "Linda," without the A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.115.185.13 (talk) 18:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC) A. One syllable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.71.233 (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Partner

I removed the "partner" reference from the info box. The source did not support it--it only calls Bing his "companion". I don't dispute that they had a sexual relationship (though that source doesn't say so), but since Bing died when he was 24 it seems suspect to list him as Lynde's "partner", especially when the source doesn't agree. Perhaps it can be re-added, or perhaps Lynde had a more significant relationship later in life that would be more appropriate to list there. Bing was apparently buried near the Lynde family plot, for what that's worth. 75.76.162.89 (talk) 06:54, 8 June 2012 (UTC)