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How is a direct link to Ann Coulter saying these things not sufficient to satisfy the policy? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LeeroyJ|LeeroyJ]] ([[User talk:LeeroyJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LeeroyJ|contribs]]) 14:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
How is a direct link to Ann Coulter saying these things not sufficient to satisfy the policy? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LeeroyJ|LeeroyJ]] ([[User talk:LeeroyJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LeeroyJ|contribs]]) 14:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::{{ESp|n}} Sources from blogs are not satisfactory - anyone can pretend to be someone else on the internet. [[User:Mdann52|Mdann52]] ([[User talk:Mdann52|talk]]) 13:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
::{{ESp|n}} Sources from blogs are not satisfactory - anyone can pretend to be someone else on the internet. [[User:Mdann52|Mdann52]] ([[User talk:Mdann52|talk]]) 13:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Ok, but those direct links are to Ann Coulter's twitter account. I don't see how your comment is relevant. The only link that is not a direct connection to Coulter saying it is the comment contained in an article on politicker. Once again, your comment doesn't really apply here. |
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sexual identity
There has been a lot of talk on the internet over the years of her being a transexual. Has she addressed this issue? If anyone has any information on this topic, please post it. Thank you. 180.180.166.193 (talk) 12:41, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Feel free to research the discussions of this issue in the talk archives on this article; it is a dead horse that has been flogged beyond all resemblance to horseflesh. --Naaman Brown (talk) 02:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
"Talk over the internet" is insufficient as grounds for inclusion in this article. If you can find a reliable source, then it can be added. WTF? (talk) 20:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
If you look at her body it is very unlikely she is a transsexual. These are rather fantasies of males who think that a tough woman with an oppinion (like it or not) can't be a "real" woman. In short: This is bullshit. (And I strongly dislike Coulter, but hate sexist remarks about woman who act in puclic in general). --94.223.9.134 (talk) 21:37, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
− She may not be a dude but she is a Nazi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.184.42 (talk) 16:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
University of Ottawa controversy
I'd argue the sentence, "liberal protestors conspired to stop Coulter's speech," is value-laden and biased. Perhaps, "protests influenced Coulter to cancel her event in spite of..." and leave the rest as it. The presence of liberal is questionable, and the verb 'conspired' has too much of a negative connotation to make this a properly neutral description. Eastwood414 (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC) Eastwood414, Aug. 9 2012— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eastwood414 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
I would agree that this is strongly biased, especially because there have been several public remarks made by fellow republicans / Conservatives that they dislike her, too and don't want to be identified with her. And to say "conspire" it takes evidence to say so. --94.223.9.134 (talk) 21:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
It seems that certain financial concerns over the much larger than normal number of police and other government employees required to assist with security at the private event played a significant role in the decision to cancel. Ms. Coulter and her security detail were advised that they would be responsible for paying the costs of providing additional security and any damages related to her appearance. The decision was made to cancel the event immediately upon being advised of this development. Cite error: A <ref>
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Extending lede as requested
Bit of a contradiction here. You've asked us to extend the lede to make a fuller summary of the article - but the article is locked!
May I suggest adding the following 3 paras to the existing lede?
From 1998, Coulter published a series of eight books, most of them with one-word titles that focus on specific areas of liberal hypocrisy. These have sold over 3 million copies. The first book concerned the Bill Clinton impeachment, a cause which first brought her to public notice when she wrote a column about the Paula Jones case, as well as writing legal briefs for Jones's attorneys. Others dealt with Cold War liberal treason, racial demagoguery, and victim culture.
At the same time, Coulter's syndicated column for Universal Press Syndicate began appearing, and featured on major conservative websites. She also worked as a regular columnist for George magazine. It is a measure of her potency that the Augusta Chronicle reluctantly dropped her column because "she was the issue rather than what she was writing about."
Coulter has successfully established a niche for vitriolic attacks on liberal values that many hold deeply sacred. For example, when Muslims wanted to boycott US Airways because of the ejection of six imams from a plane, Coulter wrote 'If only we could get Muslims to boycott all airlines, we could dispense with airport security altogether.' On the prospect of whites becoming a minority in the US, she wrote 'One may assume the new majority will not be such compassionate overlords as the white majority has been.' 109.154.5.166 (talk) 00:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 24 October 2012
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This should be added to the last section regarding the 2012 election:
When asked about the offensive nature of her use of the word "retard," Coulter doubled down and responded “The only people who will be offended are too retarded to understand it[.]” source-http://politicker.com/2012/10/ann-coulter-calls-obama-the-retard/
The next day, she also tweeted "If [Obama]'s 'the smartest guy in the room' it must be one retarded room." source-http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/ann-coulter-retard-jokesgood-cancer-jokesbad-61891. direct source--https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/260795637874954240
This was not the first time that Coulter had been criticized for her derogatory use of the word, so it is unlikely that she was unaware of its offensive nature in the mentally handicapped community. In late September of 2012 Coulter tweeted “I had no idea how crucial the retarded vote is in this election.” source-http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2012/10/24/ann-coulter-r-word/16727/ direct source-https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/250847072335585280
She also tweeted "Retard Chris Matthews interrupts Condi interview to ask about ... BIRTHERS!!" in late August of 2012. source-http://twitchy.com/2012/10/23/groan-ann-coulter-calls-president-obama-a-retard/ direct source--https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/241013218737258497
Each of these instances has met with strong criticism.
I support this edit request, I also think we should add a reference to this response written by this Special Olympian:
http://specialolympicsblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/an-open-letter-to-ann-coulter/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by CHollman82 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
This is no longer a one-off incident, but we need more major media, secondary sources, to satisfy WP:BLP and WP:RS. Ronabop (talk) 04:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Robanop, I have added direct sources, is this sufficient? 206.18.112.127 (talk) 20:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Not done Sources provided are not sufficient to satisfy the WP:BLP policy. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 04:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
How is a direct link to Ann Coulter saying these things not sufficient to satisfy the policy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeroyJ (talk • contribs) 14:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: Sources from blogs are not satisfactory - anyone can pretend to be someone else on the internet. Mdann52 (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Ok, but those direct links are to Ann Coulter's twitter account. I don't see how your comment is relevant. The only link that is not a direct connection to Coulter saying it is the comment contained in an article on politicker. Once again, your comment doesn't really apply here.
Edit request on 25 October 2012
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In the 2012 presidential election portion of the Wikipedia entry, there is a typo that states "incombant President". It should say "incumbent" Hadskunwar (talk) 02:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently done by someone else. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 04:10, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
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Please add the following text to the '2012 presidential election' section:
"The tweet prompted John Franklin Stephens, a Special Olympics athlete, to write an open letter to Coulter, asking her why she calls people 'retarded.'
Stephens' letter read in part: "After I saw your tweet, I realized you just wanted to belittle the President by linking him to people like me. You assumed that people would understand and accept that being linked to someone like me is an insult and you assumed you could get away with it...Well, Ms. Coulter, you, and society, need to learn that being compared to people like me should be considered a badge of honor...No one overcomes more than we do and still loves life so much." [1]
Thank you! Freshnrg (talk) 04:57, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- Opposition to the use of the word is political. It's quite obvious Coulter's use of it was intentional. We cannot address every prvocation of hers and every response to her provocations by non-notable parties. If this becomes the subject of hard copy, we can revisit it. Until then it's webfluff. μηδείς (talk) 05:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
--Medeis|μηδείς, Please support your characterization that opposition to use of the word is political. The word has been removed from the federal vocabulary==http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:5:./temp/~c1116EqxLc::, and many states have done this as well. The federal law was passed more than two years prior to these events, and the vast majority of states have followed suit. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/intellectual-disability-bill-replace-retarded_n_1837476.html. The intellectually-handicapped community has voiced its opposition to use of the word, particularly in the way it was used here, for a long time now. I am not sure what your definition of "non-notable parties" is, but this goes along with your broad painting of the issue as political in a conclusory fashion, which minimize its significance without any clear justification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.18.112.127 (talk) 14:11, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Defining it as purely political is also puzzling because it would seem to imply that conservatives have some sort of animosity or at least indifference to disabled people. Several notable conservatives, such as Michelle Malkin, have voiced strong displeasure with Coulter's actions here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeroyJ (talk • contribs) 15:05, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Not done Proposed edit challenged which is the equivalent of being reverted. See WP:BRD. The thing to do now is discuss here on the talk page. :) -Nathan Johnson (talk) 04:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
Once again, why is this being challenged when there have been no reasons given for the challenge? Medeis did not offer anything that resembles a substantive criticism or reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeroyJ (talk • contribs) 14:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
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