Talk:Rihanna

unclear passage Rihanna page

I have included the following excerpt to illustrate some parts of this page that i find difficult to understand.

"...he felt "Pon de Replay" was too big for her, saying "when a song is that big, it's hard [for a new artist] to come back from. I don't sign songs, I sign artists".[23] The audition resulted in Rihanna signing a six-album record deal with Def Jam Recordings in February 2005, on the same day of the audition, with Jay-Z saying "There's only two ways out. Out the door after you sign this deal. Or through this window ...",[21] meaning that he was not going to let her leave with signing a record deal.[21] After signing to Def Jam Recordings, Rihanna cancelled other meetings with record labels and relocated from Barbados to New York to live with Rogers' and his wife.[24] Rihanna explained the concept behind the title of the album to Kidzworld, saying that the sun is representative of native Caribbean culture, as well as herself, and that the album consists of music from her heritage.[25]..."

This passage seems like a mish-mash of opinions and loose facts and some of it is not clear at all. The part where it starts with the Jay-Z quote, "There's only two ways out..." The author attemts to explain what they thought Jay-z was saying "meaning he was not going to let her leave with signing a record deal..." This explanation provided by the author does not clear things up and I wonder if this clarification should not be attempted at all because the quote seems to be self explanatory in that Jay-Z seems to be saying to Rihanna that the contract she has just signed with him is serious and she needs to deliver the six albums or jump out the window, figuritively.

the passage that starts "Rihanna explained the concept behind the title of the album to Kidzworld..." Not only does this sentence just hang out by itself, It needs to explain who or what "kidsworld" is and what album rihanna is speaking about.

'Personal' section?

Why is there no 'Personal' section as commonly found on other biographical pages? Was there one? Was it removed? Why?

I'm sure there is plenty of info that could fill out such a section and I'm equally sure there would be plenty of interest as well, making such a section quite appropriate.

Thought anyone?

I think matt kemp should be added as him and rih dated for over a year. Why no mention of him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yolochri (talk • contribs) 09:19, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

108.162.189.236 (talk) 20:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

As well as a personal section, why isn't there a 'Legacy' section? I'm not a massive Rihanna fan, but I'm aware of her major commercial accomplishments. She's the biggest global star in the world right now who has been extremely controversial and had a major influence on numerous other artists and society in general. I think using the numerous statistics and achievements listed throughout this article, a Legacy section could easily be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.117.6 (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2013 (UTC) I wouldn't say legacy, as she hasn't lived that long to leave one behind yet. A Personal life section is necessary, to discuss that incident with Chris Brown, as well as her 2005 arrest in Berlin [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.192.145 (talk) 16:40, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Adam Selman

I'd like to propose a small change from "She teamed up with her ​​personal stylist Adam Selman" "She teamed up with her costume designer ​Adam Selman." http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/rihanna-steals-the-attention-at-london-fashion-week/?ref=style --Matipop (talk) 23:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to follow up on this. This article clearly states that Adam Selman is her costume designer and not her stylist. Can I request that an editor make the changes? The reference is above. Thanks.Matipop (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Grammy Awards

I think there is some confusing amongst sources/verification concerning how many Grammy Awards she has won; her awards page asserts she has won six, and I can find evidence for this, but I can't find evidence that accounts for another. Could someone check this? Otherwise the verifiability of the source should be questioned and subsequently removed. —Jennie | ☎ 20:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Looking through the internet, there is a majority of media sources saying she has won 7, with some saying 6, I used the Grammy's history search that returned 4 (so it isn't up to date or inclusive of all awards), I'll have to dig deeper... —Jennie | ☎ 21:02, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

This is a large debate. The conflict started last year when there was a twitter message she had won 2. The thing is Rihanna was on the red carpet for those awards. The same thing happened to Kelly Rowland a few years ago when she wasn't even at the show and was texted that she had won when actually it was the remixer for her song that one. According to Grammy.com Rihanna has 6. The 2013 results aren't in the search engine yet but can be found on the site itself. One award she is credited by her real name, Robyn Fenty. The Best Rap Song award from 2012 is a songwriters only award and Rihanna only sang on the track. Many people are confused on this. But only the writers are given a "Best Song" award, that is the point of it since many times those who write the songs don't perform on them and lose out on winning a Grammy when there is one for the performance. Here are all the references. http://www.grammy.com/nominees/search?artist=rihanna&field_nominee_work_value=&year=All&genre=All, http://www.grammy.com/nominees/search?artist=%22robyn+fenty%22&field_nominee_work_value=&year=All&genre=All, http://www.grammy.com/nominees?genre=18 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xffactor (talk • contribs) 19:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 March 2013

71.119.126.108 (talk) 05:42, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Rihanna did not die on march 15th she's still alive

 Already done. The addition has already been reverted.  — daranz [ t ] 20:05, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Role model

Why is there no information on Rihanna being accused of being a bad role model for young girls? 12 Portillo (talk) 05:15, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Because that's irrelevant shit invented by the media. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 08:34, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Not sure about the swearword, but thanks for replying! Portillo (talk) 01:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Infobox picture

In the First picture Her face is not clear, The Second picture is better to put them in Infobox. The difference is clear. And First picture also been put in the List of awards and nominations received by Rihanna.

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  Second picture

I see the first picture place is not in the Infobox. It is also best to put a picture close to her face. And not to her body and also the colors in the first picture is not Original. This is the opinion. --Oz Steps (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• Second picture - much better for the first pic.Moxy (talk) 00:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Of course Moxy, I see the first picture also been put in the List of awards and nominations received by Rihanna. And The version of First picture the colors is not Original. Will wait for a better picture of it in 2013. Thanks. --Oz Steps (talk) 00:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment. None of them. I think it's better to upload and use another new photo of her. The first is good for Rihanna discography article and the second is not much better than the first and it's old. But for now (until the new photo), the second. Zheek (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment. To see the second picture, was approved in other languages, Such: Greek, French, Portuguese, Arabic and other. --Oz Steps (talk) 01:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I see now the First picture best in the section: 2012–present: Battleship and Unapologetic. --Oz Steps (talk) 01:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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  Fifth picture

What about this picture? Ilikeriri (talk) 19:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• I agree with you Ilikeriri, this picture is the best for the infobox. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 20:40, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• Not good in the Infobox. Current picture is clearer. This is it blurry. And also the colors is not Original. --Oz Steps (talk) 21:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• The current picture in the infobox is older! We need newer one, you understand that? And is nothing wrong with the one that Ilikeriri proposed, it's a little bit low quality but it can pass for a certain time until a beter pic from the DWT is uploaded. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 21:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Horrible blurry image - do not replace the current one with this one - has anyone look at what flicker has for free see here?Moxy (talk) 21:37, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

All the existing pictures from the Diamonds World Tour that are present on Flickr were posted here on Wiki. There are some pictures at the Grammys red carpet on Flickr, however, I doubt they have a free license. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 21:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

These images are blurry. Will wait for the better pictures in the coming months. --Oz Steps (talk) 01:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Oz Steps, it doesn't matter if the photos are in original colours. It's not like her face was turned blue or something. It's called editing. But yes, the photos are awfully blurry and a mess. Zach 02:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 April 2013

Robyn Rihanna Fenty xxx (talk) 14:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC) 2007 album 'A Girl Like Me'.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Controversy

Hi I have also been discussing the Chris Brown article too by the way but about this Rihanna article, for the sake of education, could a controversy section be added then allowed to stay particularly detailing the 2009 fight between the two recording personalities? I see that event has not been detailed in the article at all and furthermore, I'm left scratching my head as to the "legacy" section, I understand Wikipedia to take a neutral point of view at all times.