Talk:Subway (restaurant)

Wrong number of countries/territories

Cuba was not included, its the 92th country/territory. But Hong Kong and Macau should be removed, as they are not territories, but integral parts of China. So the real figure is 90.

Edit request on 31 July 2012

On the Subway (restaurant) page, under the Doctor's Associates section, please change PhD to LHD since on Peter Buck's Wikipedia page, it clearly states that he earned LHD, not PhD.

This raises questions about why he named the organization Doctor's Associates Inc. As of now, the Suybway (restaurant) page states that because Peter Buck received a PhD, he named the organization Doctor's Associates. However, since this is incorrect as per Peter Buck's Wikipedia page, and since neither co-founders, nor the Subway restaurant chain have anything to do with the medical and or doctoral field, I believe there should be more discussion to this point. A case may be made for the fact that naming it this was causes unsuspecting customers to ascribe a higher value to the nutritional value of Subway restaurant food, but that is mere speculation and is not verifiable. The best person to speak to would be Peter Buck or Fred DeLuca, which I strongly encourage.

192.132.229.1 (talk) 17:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The article at Peter Buck (restaurateur) clearly states he earned both an L.H.D. (from Bowdoin College) and a Ph.D. (from Columbia University). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done Clearly states it, but it's unsourced. The footnote for the Columbia Ph.D points to the page for the Bowdoin LHD. We can't take Wikipedia at face value. I've made the change here, but someone else can fix the Buck article. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:47, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Undone ... the existing Bowdoin source supports the statement of a Doctorate from Columbia University, as it states: "Peter Buck of the Bowdoin Class of 1952 is a nuclear physicist and philanthropist who is perhaps best known as the co-founder of the Subway franchise restaurant chain. A native of South Portland, Maine, he earned master’s and doctoral degrees in physics at Columbia University. From 1957 to 1978 he held positions as a nuclear physicist with several companies."[1]. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 02:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I did a quick Google search, and found several additional sources. I've added two of those as additional refs for the statement in the Peter Buck article. Although I think it may be appropriate to rephrase this article to specify that he holds a doctoral degree in physics, which would clarify part of the point that the IP was making - that the degree is not a medical doctorate. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 03:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Guess I should have read that a bit closer. I see it a lot where links are reused like that to sneak something in, and this looked like one of those. Good job finding more references, though. Better to avoid confusion. Sorry for any annoyance, honest mistake. I also agree with the IP's point, and support rephrasing. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:46, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 Dec 2012

Requesting to add link to Subway page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77eBQwPGgUA&feature=share This tells the story of Subway and will be useful for readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kla2300 (talk • contribs) 21:22, 11 December 2012‎

Not done; highly promotional video that adds nothing not already covered in the article using reliable sources. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Sandwhich photograph

This photo is not an accurate representation pf the companies products. Instead it appears to be a staged marketing photograph. My though it it should be removed and replaced with a photo which accurately depicts the companies products. Wikipedia is not for advertising 108.172.115.8 (talk) 03:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

The sandwich photo is amateurish and low quality, so it is definitely not a "staged marketing photograph". The sandwich looks to me like what I get at Subway. I think the image should stay unless there is a higher quality image to replace it with. Deli nk (talk) 11:03, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

it is not made based on the restraunts own process. Meat should be flat, not folded. Bread should have a flat cut, not a dip in the centre. Just use google image search and look at what comes up (non-professional marketing photos) none of them look anything like that. This is a high volume fast food chain. They just dont produce that kind of food quality unless it is being staged. 108.172.115.8 (talk) 15:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

studying the photo more closely it is definately staged by a Subway store as the sandwhich is photographed in front of subway branded cellophane wrap box which is kept in the food prep area at the back of the store. The sandwhich also has not been wrapped, which all subways are (even dine-in orders). I agree the quality of the photo is amateur but the sandwhich has definately been staged by someone with a POV. 108.172.115.8 (talk) 16:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

It is possible it was a staged photo, but unless anyone has a licence free image of better quality to replace it I don't see the harm in it. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 17:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I just checked it out, and now I want a sub. Without a car, that's a three hour walk. Quite hungry, thanks to this promotion. Can't concentrate, and Wikipedia suffers a bit. No policy against making Hulk hungry, though. For what it's worth, I've also never seen sandwich meat folded like that. Imagine the wait! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:25, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Well from the photo's metadata, that's how they serve them in Dawson, TX. Start walking. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 22:20, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

No thanks. I doubt folded meat tastes any better, and I've found cereal for now. Just agreeing with Mr. 108.172; it definitely seems like it wants to look tastier. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:27, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Student meal deal

Before offering the SubCard, restaurants in Glasgow, Scotland offered a student meal deal where you could get any sub, drink and cookie or crisps for £2.99. Was this a national thing or just regional? If it was available elsewhere then it might be worth adding to the article. ColinCameron (talk) 14:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

If a secondary source (not Subway) for this is available, it might be worth adding. Seems a bit promotional to discuss menu prices in an encyclopedia. But I'll have to see the source and the proposed edit before I can give my full two cents. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:19, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Controversy off-topic?

A new addition to the controversy section states:

According to a recent study conducted by the Palo Alto Medical Foundation Research Institute, "Adolescents who went to McDonald’s and Subway in Los Angeles bought about the same number of calories at each, despite Subway's reputation as a healthier place to eat." Despite Subway's claims it offers healthier fast food, "[Subway's] menus are not the point. [the] study was not based on what people have the ability to pick, [it was] based on what adolescents actually selected in a real-world setting."

Ref used: "Teens ate 'too many calories' at Subway and McDonald's, study says". Los Angeles Times. May 8, 2013.

To me, this reads more as a criticism about adolescent dietary choices; and while Subway was one of the locations used for the study, the controversy isn't specifically about Subway. How is a dietary decision of the customer a controversy about the company selling it? Unless the claim is that Subway should change their menu to exclusively carry healthy options instead of both healthy and higher-calorie options (not stated in the article, so would be original research). Opinions? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't even seem like a controversy, let alone one about Subway. A study finds that kids buy calories, nobody disputes it, and there are no repercussions. Even if a restaurant just sold sprouts, a person could buy a million calories worth of sprouts. Not that there's anything unhealthy about 955 calories for lunch. You want energy or not? I've removed it. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:11, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

The main USP of Subway's marketing campaigns is that Subway's menu contains lesser calories than that offered by other fast-food chains, including McDonalds. The above-mentioned source refutes this notion, and thus, is relevant to the customers of Subway. Also, Barek's concern as to whether the claim is that Subway should change their menu to carry exclusively healthy options, the researchers of the above-metioned study claim exactly that by stating :'“The Subway chain claims it offers healthy fast food and helps its customers lose weight,” the researchers wrote. But they said the proof should be based on what people buy, not by what’s offered.' This may not qualify as a controversy, so I've moved the information to the 'Nutritional content' section of the wiki. Amitbalani (talk) 15:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)