User talk:Arjayay

A Gnome Explains

It's a silly WikiGnome story:-
I found that I had misspelt retrieved, as retreived (ei), three times in one article (one mistake, copied & pasted).
I set myself a "penance" (nothing like a bit of masochism) of correcting the "ei" versions in Wikipedia articles.
I only intended to do the 100 or so misspellings there were at the time, but I then adopted "retrieved" (retreived, retrived, retreved)
I then added "rhythm” (rhythem, rhythim, rhythym, rhytm, rythem, rythim, rythm & rythym)

I have since got carried away, and adopted the Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/R - all of it.
Don’t do it, it's bad for your health

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Thanks

|Thanks for going way above and beyond your normal contributions in your reviewing and monitoring of a rather long and active article. Your participation (both past and future) is very much appreciated by myself and the encyclopedia. Cheers!!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem - as you say it was "a long and active article", which made following the changes rather difficult; especially when, halfway through re-reading it, it was changed again - but as the changes were heading in the right direction, I was happy to let them run their course. As stated on the talk page, I was impressed by you and your fellow editors' ability to view the article from a NPoV.
Arjayay (talk) 19:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

PSB

Hello, Arjayay. Earlier this week you removed some promotional language from the Penn Schoen Berland article, specifically trimming a section called Penn Schoen Berland South Asia, which was added by an IP editor earlier in the week.

I'd actually like to suggest that the section be removed entirely, and I'm asking if you'll do so. It's not supported by any third-party sources, there's no indication that the South Asia office is noteworthy enough to deserve a top-level heading, and per WP:EL external links don't belong in the body of articles. Lastly, the Delhi office is already mentioned in Corporate overview.

Relevant background: I worked with PSB's New York office to update this article earlier in the year (See that discussion here.). Then as now, I'd like to avoid direct edits to the page. Would you be willing to make this change? Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:03, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Done - Thanks for the request and the explanation - I've also added the page to my watchlist.
Please feel free to remove this section from my talk page if you so wish.
Arjayay (talk) 15:25, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Much better now. I try to be transparent about asking for help on things like this, so it's fine by me if this stays—but it's your Talk page, so please do as you like. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

No worries - It'll get archived in due course. Arjayay (talk) 16:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks Zhankus (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Clan Menzies

Of course I made a spelling mistake, it was a typo error rather than my bad spelling skills. As for using copyright text I can assure you that my edits are not in copyright violation of the book I have quoted as a source. But I have made sure that my contributions reflect what is said in the source.QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:55, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Fine - I was just concerned why you were reverting my spelling correction - no worries - Arjayay (talk) 17:24, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The purpose of my edit was to change the prose, not to revert the spelling error - that was a mistake.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Search index not being updated

I dropped a note on Tim Starling's talk page, but it is late evening in New South Wales, so I won't expect much action until tomorrow. Happy editing! Chris the speller ^yack 13:34, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Chris - thanks - I share your frustrations that no-one seems interested in ensuring that the basics are working - I also despaired when User:AKlapper (WMF) (WMF's bug wrangler) asked "Any testcase or way to see output to prove the statement?" - Arjayay (talk) 14:06, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Spelling it out

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For your fortitude in cleaning up and correcting spelling errors (especially mine). — Keithbob • Talk • 20:03, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar - Like most WikiGnomes I just beaver away in the background - which makes it doubly nice when our work is not only noticed, but appreciated. - Arjayay (talk) 09:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Reply: "Sp"

Thanks for always looking out for my spell errors. Just wondering, but why do you always end up at articles I created? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 21:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your appreciation.
You ask "why do you always end up at articles I created?" - It's just that you keep using words beginning with R.
As explained above, I have adopted the Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/R. So, to keep me away, just avoid words beginning with R ;-) - Arjayay (talk) 09:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, on the Eduard Hambardzumyan and David Ayrapetyan‎ articles, you are correnting a refernece's spelling from "Rusian" to "Russian", but that is how the actual source spells it. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:35, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, I usually check the original, but I obviously missed these. The question is what to do about it?
WP:COPYEDIT allows the correction of "trivial spelling and typographic errors" in quotations, but is silent about correcting references.
Personally, I think the incorrect spelling should be kept, as it will help the reference to be found by storage software, such as the "Wayback machine", if the link is broken in the future.
However, I also think it should be noted as a misspelling by the addition of (sic) otherwise Wikipedia looks sloppy, and/or other editors will come along and change it.
Any opinions? - Arjayay (talk) 12:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

As you may have noted. I have added (sic) to acknowlege the misspelling - Arjayay (talk) 17:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Adrianus Johannes lemmens

Hello Arjayay, I wanted to thank you for helping with the spelling on the page of Adrianus Johannes Lemmens. Great help and many thanks ! Glemmens1940 (talk) 13:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome - it's what we WikiGnomes do, but it is nice to be appreciated. - Arjayay (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Deaths in 2013

oh right, one thing that would help would be removing all the see alsos that are in the template at the bottom of the article, the see alsos aren't mean to repeat anything else Tom B (talk) 18:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Old newspapers

RJJ, do you not have a library card? I note you are in East Anglia so you should be able to access the British Library's online newspapers with a library card. Name is as spelled in the paper quoted, I'm careful over not modernising spellings in these cases. Mjroots (talk) 17:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - as we know, the standardisation of spelling is relatively recent - as you obviously had access to the cited source, I just wanted to be sure it wasn't an accidental typo. Arjayay (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Europa 2 Maiden voyage dates.

Hi Arjayay,

I recently created the page about Hapag Lloyds new ship MS Europa 2. I don't mean to sound rude but I noticed that you changed the date of the maiden voyage from 11th May 2013 to the 11th June 2013. According to the Hapag Lloyd website (link below), the maiden voyage is on the 11/05/13 and lasts until the 25/05/13, which is May, not June.

http://www.hl-cruises.com/finder/eux1300/itineraries/

I just thought I would bring this to your attention.

Cheers, (pleae reply using my talk page) MrDerails (talk) 10:52, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Arjayay,

No worries. I often have that problem too.

I have just changed the launch date as after looking into it it turns out the ship was actually launched last year (as said here), and I think where they put on their website 'Launching' it means when the ship begins with the company. I thought the same as you when I first saw it - 'How are the going to fit that out in 11 days!'.

All the best, MrDerails (talk) 14:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Orphans

The_Maitre_de_Chaource

As you are being so helpful I would like you to just look at the above which I published at the same time as the piece on Ligier Richier. I am sure that you would also classify this as an "essay" which is fair comment.

This was also tagged as an "orphan" and today I have been adding ... to many parts of the article.

However this does not seem remedy the absence of a link to the "Maitre de Chaource" and I would really value your help.

Weglinde (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I noticed you have been adding outward links to The works of Ligier Richier, which it certainly needed, but had not added any incoming links. I hoped you had not misunderstood my comment about links, and added one from Ligier Richier

As stated in WP:ORPHAN

"Although a single, relevant incoming link is sufficient, .... three or more is ideal"

Can you think of other articles that can/should link to "The works of Ligier Richier"? Even if there is no article on the church or museum in which the sculptures are, presumably there are articles on some of the towns in which his work features. Such an article can be altered to say that the church contains a sculpture by Ligier Richier enabling you to add a link.

As for The_Maitre_de_Chaource, yes it is another academic essay.

I am increasingly concerned why you are writing in this style - are these essays you wrote as part of a course? If so, even though you wrote them, the copyright probably belongs to the academic institute to which you submitted them. This usually holds true, even if you have translated them - translation does not overcome copyright.

As with Ligier Richier, presumably there are articles on some of the towns in which these works feature, which can be amended to mention the sculpture enabling you to add a link.

Hope this helps - Arjayay (talk) 17:52, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for this. I shall try to follow your advice on "incoming links".

Concerning the style of writing, the pieces on Ligier Richier and the Maitre de Chaource were not written as part of a course and I have written several articles for Wikipedia which, in the absence of any comment, were I guess in the correct encyclopedic form and I did not set out to write these two pieces in a different form. It just happened.

Not sure if there is another wiki "vehicle" to which the two pieces could be transferred? If not I hope they will be allowed to stand.

Again thanks for your help.

Weglinde (talk) 06:40, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Wikignome, but Shock Horror :)

Thanks for your Wikignomic contribution to an article on which I was working. But When I Went Looking For Your User Page To Thank You I Was SHOCKED And HORRIFIED to espy the following description of one of your likes: More Capital Letters Than Wikipedia Approves Of, for this made it quite clear that nobody had told you that a preposition is something not to end a sentence with. And that is something up with which I am often told I should not put :) It also seemed mildly unexpected in a Wikignome, though this doubtless just proves the foolishness of my prejudices in such matters :) Anyway, thanks for all the good work, and please keep it up :) Tlhslobus (talk) 15:13, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

You are, of course, quite correct.

It is a great failing of mine, but I'm not (quite) that pedantic.

Misspellings and "real" grammar errors - yes, but I just can't get worked up about certain grammar rules, such as prepositions at the end of sentences and/or split infinitives - and this is not due to a misplaced loyalty to Star Trek - I can't stand the programme (cue the trashing of my pages by enraged Trekkies).

Grammar changes over the years and I'm sure some rules, such as the split infinitive, are almost dead. Other parts of grammar, such as the serial comma, or whether a collective noun is singular or plural, engender lengthy, fruitless discussions.

Similarly I don't see the point in spending hours changing one short horizontal line for another - be it a hyphen, a minus sign, a em-dash or an en-dash - and god-forbid that anyone should ever confuse them, or use them in the wrong place. IMHO there are enough major problems to be tidied up before worrying about this - but if it brings enjoyment to others - well, at least it is the privacy of their own home.

Enjoy - Arjayay (talk) 15:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Without my typos you'd be out of a job, right? Sentryward (talk) 11:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think you can claim all the credit ;-) - Arjayay (talk) 11:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks to the edits on the page of Ram Gabale --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 05:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Page

Do you still want to do anything with this userpage or not? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd completely forgotten that I'd even started it.
There was a quite a lot of work in reducing their list to those artists with their own WP page. I seem to remember I didn't move it to article space, as the only sources I had at the time were Primary. A WP search for "BGO Records" has over 200 matches - plus those under "Beat Goes On Records" and some of the entries under "BGO", so it would be far from an orphan.
Not sure from your question if you want to complete it and move it to article space? (please do), or delete it? (please don't) - Arjayay (talk) 08:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

For you corrections at Occupation of Araucanía. Dentren | ^Talk 23:15, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thanks for cleaning up my spelling errors. I was cutting and pasting that cite and accidentally carried forward the errors but the original has been corrected now. Thanks again. — Keithbob • Talk • 15:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

When God Writes Your Love Story

Hi RJA,

Thank you for your edits on the When God Writes Your Love Story article. The article is a current featured article candidate. If you would be willing to review the article and provide your feedback, your comments at the discussion would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 18:01, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	I, The Witty Warrior, hereby award you this barnstar for correcting the spelling errors in tons of different articles. Do you ever get tired??? Anyway, keep up the excellent work. Cheers!! The Witty Warrior (talk) 19:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Pop Up Ads

Thank you for your help. I found out what the problem was. The ads no longer appear on Wikipedia articles.24.209.194.7 (talk) 23:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Awesome! FeerTheDeer (talk) 06:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Some falafel for you...

...for helping me with my grammar mistakes on the Grigore Vasiliu-Birlic article. Rares2cristea (talk) 10:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - I've just changed a couple of dates as WP:DATEFORMAT and translated "comerciant". Wiktionary translates this as 1.dealer, tradesman, trader, shopkeeper 2.businessman - I chose businessman as it covers the other meanings.
You might find en.wiktionary useful as it translates words from many different languages into English - you don't even have to know which language the word you want translating is in.
Best wishes Arjayay (talk) 11:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Dr.K.

Looks like your edits on Tahiti got quickly reverted by the infamous Dr.K. https://sites.google.com/site/tetraenoic/home — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fk4kws3 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Mmmm - nice try - but since I've never edited Tahiti that would be extremely difficult. Arjayay (talk) 07:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Broadcasted

Hi Arjayjay. With regard to this edit, in case you weren't aware, "broadcasted" is acceptable as the past tense of "broadcast" - see http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/broadcasted (I used to change it to "broadcast" too until someone made me aware). Regards DH85868993 (talk) 01:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

As the Wiktionary definition states, the use is proscribed. The word also appears on Wikipedia:Lists_of_common_misspellings/B and the first page of a search for broadcasted comprises almost entirely of redirects from Broadcasted to Broadcast. Arjayay (talk) 12:45, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Your edits (Graham Bean and your fixes of broadcast/ed)

(1) The edit you reverted at Graham Bean had BLP issues (the IP was indeed blocked, but that isn't grounds for revert, especially when BLP requires verifiable information) and was reversed by Drmies. (2) Your spelling fixes are too rapid; are you using a BOT or a script to fix it? - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 00:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC)