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The link above can be expanded as soon as enough information exists for the album's second single. --<font color="navy">[[User:Another Believer|Another Believer]]</font> <sub>(<font color="cc6600">[[User talk:Another Believer|Talk]]</font>)</sub> 16:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
The link above can be expanded as soon as enough information exists for the album's second single. --<font color="navy">[[User:Another Believer|Another Believer]]</font> <sub>(<font color="cc6600">[[User talk:Another Believer|Talk]]</font>)</sub> 16:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

== Gypsy ==

'''GYPSY'''
Gaga Said it was produced by Madeon '''''AND''''' Redone.

'''VENUS PRODUCER'''
There is no confirmed producer for this. Why on earth would you list the rumoured female producer

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Confirmed Songs

There are songs that are confirmed by Gaga herself. These songs have been confirmed recently, confirming that these are indeed songs on the record, not songs that have been scrapped in earlier recordings, including:

ARTPOP, Applause, Gypsy, G.U.Y (Guy Under You), Sex Dreams, Mary Jane Holland, Swine, Donatella

These songs have been confirmed in either radio interviews done by Gaga herself or tweets by the singer. She confirmed in an interview with MTV on the VMA red carpet that she collaborated with rapper Too $hort on the album. She also confirmed that the collaborations with Azealia Banks are not on the record. Please add these to a confirmed songs section, as well as adding the information above.

Yesterday evening, September 1, 2013, Lady Gaga debuted 7 new songs from ARTPOP, including the titular ARTPOP, Sex Dreams, Jewels & Drugs, Swine, MANiCURE, Aura, and I Wanna Be with You. These are now officially confirmed tracks by several news organizations: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/02/lady-gaga-itunes-festival-review-artpop-new-songs_n_3854641.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23925003 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lady-gaga-debuts-new-artpop-songs-at-itunes-festival-20130902 While there is still no official track listing, these songs are now confirmed for the album, and should be mentioned in the article. Thechungling (talk) 20:42, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gaga herself TWEETED that these songs are on the album, i don't know what more confirmation wikipedia needs to add them. Katy Perry's PRISM article has a confirmed songs section. why not ARTPOP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.176.80.255 (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gaga herself has confirmed names of songs to be included on the album OR ON THE APP. The app will feature other songs that aren't on youtube. Gaga herself has confirmed this in various tweets. She has confirmed the songs (to be included in the ARTPOP experience in some way, not necessarily on the album) to be;
Applause
Aura
ARTPOP
I Wanna Be With You
Swine
Jewels & Drugs (feat. T.I, Twista, and Too $hort)
Sex Dreams
MANiCURE
Brooklyn Nights
Do What You Want (With My Body)
Temple
Donatella
G.U.Y (Girl Under You)
Gypsy
Mary Jane Holland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.99.177 (talk) 18:25, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization of title

MOS:CAPS says to reduce all-caps writings to mixed case. However, does that apply to the title of the article as well? Should this be moved to Artpop? Again, we're talking about complying with Wikipedia's Manual of Style and not with pronouncements by Gaga. —C.Fred (talk) 23:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It also applies to the title of the article (see Janet (album)). The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 05:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I say we should keep it "Artpop" as it is only stylized by Lady Gaga as "ARTPOP", if she stylized it as @RtP0P we wouldn't create an article called @RtP0P. 41.141.131.152 (talk)

I'm under the impression that stylization involves alternative symbols, not capitalization. If the entire title of the album is capitalized, I believe it should be on here as well. Ke$ha is an example of stylization; ARTPOP is not. However, if the rule is to reduce all-caps writing to mixed case, then I suppose it should stay the way it is.

68.69.54.232 (talk) 19:01, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Gaga specifically tweeted (see below) that, for grammatical purposes, ARTPOP should be capitalized. As the creator of this content, she should have the final say over how it's spelled. I understand that Wikipedia has stylistic rules, but it would be inaccurate to write the title in a way that Gaga has stated is wrong. Furthermore, she probably knows something we don't. It could be an acronym. https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/232114376067403776 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thechungling (talk • contribs) 07:13, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

Many trusted sources including Lady Gaga (the concerned artist), Reuters and MTV.com have confirmed the release of this album, there is no reason to delete this. 41.141.131.152 (talk)

This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (your reason here it is a cool album) --76.186.2.168 (talk) 06:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Reuters, a very reliable source, has just confirmed that the album will be called ARTPOP. Therefore there is no real reason to remove this page. As far as most people are concerned, ARTPOP is lady gaga's next album and this is a page with as much information about it so far. Lady gaga has confirmed that more details will be announced next month, in September 2012, to accompany the launch of her fragrance, FAME. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.10.28 (talk) 01:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed^. Check out LittleMonsters.com for more details about ARTPOP spilled by Gaga herself. And she will be also announcing more details about the next album on VOGUE Magazine next month. (09/12) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.25.111.243 (talk) 13:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A link for the Reuters story would help to evaluate the situation. —C.Fred (talk) 00:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 CSD DB-MOVE

{{holdon}} This is the result of an AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ARTPOP ; the page history should be displaced to elsewhere, if this is to be reused by the incubator article. Content from the toosoon version might be relevant to the new version. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 02:51, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This Artpop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is related also to Artpop (Lady Gaga album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and ARTPOP (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Artpop (2013 Lady Gaga album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) so lots of parallel histories? -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

Artpop (2013 Lady Gaga album) → Artpop (2013 album) –

Move?: Discussion 1 moved here from Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

Move?: continued discussion 1

Nothing else, DAvid Bowie created this word during his "Space oddity" era by blending the art form with pop music, somethign Gaga draws from still today. So this can very well be moved to Artpop I think. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:55, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It actually derives from pop art. Randomuser112 (talk) 07:10, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • There likely were several whole and partial cut-and-pastes and copy-and-pastes between these 4 pages. Trying to stick bits of history together here would create more mess than it would clean up. Best put in Talk:Artpop (album) a history section explaining what happened. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • And just leave the history at /2/3/4? I am showing the following edits:
      • Artpop (album) - 3 August 2012 - 14:05 28 October 2012‎, 22:18 28 October 2012‎ - 1 November 2012‎, 3 December 2012‎ - 1 January 2013‎, 4 January 2013‎ - 15 January 2013, 26 January 2013 - 27 February 2013, 26 March 2013 - 31 May 2013‎, 8 June 2013‎ - 3 July 2013
      • Artpop (album)/version 2 - 30 November 2012‎
      • Artpop (album)/version 3 - 3 January 2013, 19 January 2013, 25 March 2013, 1 June 2013
      • Artpop (album)/version 4 - 14:06 28 October 2012 - 19:25 28 October 2012
--Apteva (talk) 21:39, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move?: Discussion 2 moved here from Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

Move?: continued discussion 2

Thanks Anthony for your tireless efforts in merging and moving all the pages. Really appreciated. :) —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 07:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, there are two more versions of this article (versions 6 and 7) ARTPOP (2013 Album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and ARTPOP (2013 album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move?: Discussion 3

Wikipedia:Article Incubator:Artpop → Artpop – The article was not moved originally because it did not have a release date. It now does. Please move it. Thank you. ARTPOPist (talk) 10:52, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did try it, however, the original article Artpop is still there as a redirect, hence it moved to this name and I'm sorry for ARTPOPist coz I yelled at him for no reason. :( —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 10:59, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Use {{db-move}} on the redirect to ask it to be deleted. Requested move discussions are only for deciding if an article in article space should have a different title, and are not for deciding if or assisting with the move of an article out of incubator space. Apteva (talk) 17:12, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Errr...it's been moved (twice) today already (✉→BWilkins←✎) 17:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
While I completely give up with you people, it still doesn't have a confirmed tracklist, and thus should not have a standalone article. Why the impatience? Why have an article when it clearly doesn't meet the criteria for having one?—Kww(talk) 17:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All recorded songs

There is a lady gaga forum known as GagaDaily, where we have compiled all of the known recorded songs Gaga has recorded for the project. Could someone add the rest of these to where it says recorded songs? http://gagadaily.com/index.php?showtopic=8493 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.100.191 (talk) 04:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a reliable source. In fact, people using sources like that is precisely why this article cannot be edited by people without accounts.—Kww(talk) 04:58, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can we make a section of tracks confirmed to be on ARTPOP and songs know to be recorded? ARTPOPist (talk) 19:34, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, as there is no confirmed relationship between any of those songs and this topic. As above, this is why we don't have articles like this: they become long lists of rumours and peripherally related material.—Kww(talk) 16:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Expanding on Kww's comment, we really should not have a section for "all recorded songs". We should only list songs that are reported—preferably by independent sources—as being included on the album. —C.Fred (talk) 16:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
With emphasis on "included" and not as recorded for Artpop only. They have to be confirmed as part of the main tracklist (which I hope would be revealed soon). —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 17:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't just the three mentioned titles. Gaga has included the following titles as recorded songs: "G.U.Y. (Girl Under You)", "Tea", "Sex Dreams", "ARTPOP", "Red Flame" and "Ratchet". There are a couple other song titles being put around, but those aren't confirmed in any way. Gaga made a tweet some time ago with the lyrics "We could we could belong together, ARTPOP" on it. All of her songs have had some title track on them in some way or form. The title isn't even a rumor for a track; it's just a confirmed recorded track. Also, Azealia Banks confirmed that she recorded the songs "Red Flame" and "Ratchet" with Gaga, and it was recorded for this album, but it may not be used in the final tracklisting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s07ienpbn8Y 75.26.253.200 (talk) 22:13, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"But it may not be used in the final tracklisting." The article should not be a random collection of every song she's recorded since her last album, so until it's confirmed to be on the album, it shouldn't be mentioned. —C.Fred (talk) 23:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Then "Tea" shouldn't be on the list, either. Neither the article used as its source nor the original tweet from Gaga confirm that the song is on the album. They just state it is a song. The other two are confirmed to be on the album, though. 75.26.253.200 (talk) 06:07, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Remove that whole section tbqh. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:48, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Lady Gaga herself announced that the first single is Applause, to be released on August 19th, through her social-networking site, Little Monsters, as well as colleagues. Can we acknowledge it as the first single, or a recorded track? Her lyrics have been posted and etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.99.177 (talk) 19:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Tea" is sourced to a statement by Gaga. I see no reason we couldn't use Gaga's statements as a source for "Applause"; have you got links so that other editors can verify and properly format it? —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
She just announced it officially today http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a501881/lady-gaga-confirms-applause-as-first-artpop-single.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.99.177 (talk) 19:56, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


There are songs that are confirmed by Gaga herself. These songs have been confirmed recently, confirming that these are indeed songs on the record, not songs that have been scrapped in earlier recordings, including: ARTPOP, Applause, Gypsy, G.U.Y (Guy Under You), Sex Dreams, Mary Jane Holland, Swine, Donatella These songs have been confirmed in either radio interviews done by Gaga herself or tweets by the singer. She confirmed in an interview with MTV on the VMA red carpet that she collaborated with rapper Too $hort on the album. She also confirmed that the collaborations with Azealia Banks are not on the record. Please add these to a confirmed songs section, as well as adding the information above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.99.177 (talk) 17:43, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Other Recorded Tracks

Jinx Ratchet Tea Burqa Red Flame The Applause Martyr For Fame Nothing On But The Radio Living On The Radio Indestructible Artpop (song) Princess Die CRWTH Candy ART Kick It Cold Hearted Bitch & Beauty In The Mirror Are confirmed songs

— Preceding unsigned comment added by FameKillsMe (talk • contribs)

There's no way that a completely unsourced listed of songs should get added to the article. If you care to find a reliable source for each of these songs that states that they will be on this album, please provide those sources in your next request.—Kww(talk) 05:04, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Princess Die" and "Artpop" are the only songs confirmed to be on the album. "Princess Die" was performed, and Lady Gaga mentioned an upbeat version of it will be on the album. "Artpop" is a title track, so there's no question in there. "Burqa", "Red Flame", "Ratchet" and "Tea" are possible titles, but they aren't 100% confirmed. "Living On the Radio" was never mentioned to be on any album at all. "The Applause" is a POSSIBLE title, but never mentioned anywhere official. The rest are just rumored tracks that should not be added in any form until they are actually confirmed; they're just nonsensical rumors. 75.26.253.200 (talk) 07:57, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Need to remove Princess Die (ft. Lana del Rey)

Having this page protected from unregistered users isn't doing much good. Princess Die is not confirmed to appear on the album at all (in fact, Gaga herself has said it likely will not be on ARTPOP) and it does NOT feature Lana del Rey. The cited MTV article is based on a fake littlemonsters.com chat. 96.242.20.84 (talk) 04:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, she did confirm that the original version isn't on the album. It is not guaranteed that she'll have the song on the album, however, it is a RECORDED song. Along with Red Flame and Ratchet, both featuring Azealia Banks. I think there should be a list of recorded songs along with confirmed tracks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.99.177 (talk) 19:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 24 July 2013

Elackie1999 (talk) 15:13, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No request found, quit fooling around. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 16:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Link to Applause page

There is a page already created for Applause, the lead single, named, Applause (Lady Gaga song). Please link this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.99.177 (talk) 23:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —MelbourneStar☆talk 23:40, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But it doesn't show and the page always redirects. Is there a way for Applause to be linked on the ARTPOP page to Applause (Lady Gaga song)?
First of all, it should be in Applause (song), secondly, I recommend you to read WP:NSONGS. Unless it charts (see WP:GOODCHARTS) or it is backed up by multiple non-trivial references (all of the current says it will be released), it can't have an independent article. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 23:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Aura" song leak

A song from Artpop has leaked online, called "Aura", here's the article for it [1] I think there should be a "Leaks" section somewhere soon on this article, or you could just mention the song elsewhere. --Matt723star (talk) 06:11, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LEAK. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 07:22, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Aura/Burqa leak and potential controversy

The demo for the song Aura/Burqa was leaked online several days ago, and is widely accepted to be a legitimate leak. After listening to it myself, it's very obvious that it is Lady Gaga. But until the track is officially released or announced, it should not appear on this article. Considering that Lady Gaga constantly is pushing the limits of what is "too far", perhaps an article focusing on the controversy she tries to generate should be created, if it hasn't already. Or should the controversy be made into a separate section in this article?Thechungling (talk) 07:35, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See above, leaks have no place in the article. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's fairly obvious that it is Lady Gaga's work, but what about the controversy she generates, especially after that song is officially released? She does it often enough that it could have it's own page. Regardless of whether or not the song itself should belong in this article, Lady Gaga is clearly promoting something related to burquas with her new album, and that should be mentioned. See:
http://omidsafi.religionnews.com/2013/08/10/ladygaga/
http://www.policymic.com/mobile/articles/58441/lady-gaga-s-burqa-is-supposed-to-empower-muslim-women-but-does-the-opposite
Thechungling (talk) 18:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The way I've read about it in the SPIEGEL is that it's a controversy because it made Gaga look like a racist (at the very least, it made a number of people and organizations attack her as such), which is why she and her management had to put a stop to the Burqa "leaks" originally meant as merchandizing, and now the song's either not gonna be released at all, or at the very least in a very different form. In any case, the controvery is obviously big enough already (making headlines across the Pond and all) that it should be included here, with appropriate sources. --93.232.167.181 (talk) 22:47, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New Song Called Swine

According to an interview by lady gaga with Vogue(she tweeted the article here, she talked about a new song on the album called Swine. We might want to put this in the article.--108.227.116.150 (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie'sWorld (talk • contribs) 05:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed Songs and Possible Songs

Please add the confirmed songs to the article in a Confirmed tracks section

  • Applause
  • Tea
  • G. U. Y (Girl Under You)
  • Aura
  • Burqa
  • ARTPOP
  • Princess Die
  • Swine
  • Red Flame
  • Rachet
  • Show Business
  • Mary Jane Holland
  • Donatella
  • Gypsy

Rumored Songs

  • Nothing On But The Radio
  • Living On The Radio
  • Shades Of Grey
  • Cake Like Lady Gaga
  • Taylor
  • Glitter & Grease
  • Candy ART
  • CRWTH
  • Cold Hearted Bitch
  • Behind The Music
  • Kisses Are Quarters
  • Dollar Bills

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie'sWorld (talk • contribs) 05:12, 20 August 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

NO sources, NO addition. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Heres a good list of all of the confirmed songs from before. Please add this to the page. They are all referenced properly.

  1. ^ "Lady Gaga's new song love letter to Donatella Versace". The Indian Express. 2013-08-25. Retrieved 2013-08-26.
  2. ^ "Lady Gaga : découvrez l'interview évènement!". funRADIO. 2013-08-26. Retrieved 2013-08-26.
  3. ^ "Lady Gaga Interview - 103.5 KTU". Retrieved 2013-08-20.
  4. ^ "Twitter/@ladygaga:". Retrieved 2013-08-26.

ARTPOPist (talk) 13:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC) [reply]

See above section where it was discussed that such section is just WP:CRYSTAL and reeks of WP:RECENTISM. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 13:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
These in no way fit with WP:CRYSTAL! How is this speculation when it is confirmed? Its not! And this doesn't fit in to WP:RECENTISM either! Examples of recentism are, and I quote, "articles overburdened with documenting controversy as it happens, articles created on flimsy, transient merits, or the muddling or diffusion of the timeless facets of a subject, previously recognized by Wikipedia consensus." One new section with song names is not overburdening! This article was created on nothing but tried-and-trued merit, this is going to be one of the biggest albums of 2013, it deserves a Wikipedia page! Its release and pure existence has been confirmed and announced repeatedly, just as these song titles have been! Please add them, they deserve a section. ARTPOPist (talk) 13:50, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This section was removed earlier because it caused so much trouble. If you want to have it in the article, get a consensus for the section first, don't just keep adding it. Your sources do not specifically state that the tracks will appear on Artpop, so they don't belong in this article.—Kww(talk) 20:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All these songs state specifically in the articles that these songs will be included in the album. This is ridiculous. Why do you have a personal vendetta agaist this article? ARTPOPist (talk) 13:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a personal vendetta against this article: I simply don't believe articles about albums should exist until there's a published tracklist. I oppose your constant efforts to jam material into Wikipedia early. This section is simply an example of why this article shouldn't exist yet: you can't build a stable article built on promotional press releases and rumours instead of facts.—Kww(talk) 13:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Things like this cement the point: the list of what's going to be on this thing changes with every interview. No one knows what will be on this album until the official tracklist is announced. This list of "confirmed" songs is nothing more than rumours until the tracklist is announced.—Kww(talk) 19:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to add that not-yet-released albums are particularly volatile when compared to other things, such as films. "Confirmed tracks" does fall within the scope of WP:CRYSTAL as one cannot confirm a track will appear on an album without a crystal ball. Most of the tracks that get listed in these sections also tend to cite months – and sometimes even years – old sources, as well. To get a little more biased, I want to take issue with the list of "confirmed tracks" that you've listed. "Red Flame" and "Rachet" will most likely not be appearing on the album as it has been confirmed Azealia Banks will not appear, and "Aura" is simply "Burqa" renamed and the possibility of "Aura" appearing on the album is questionable. Scarce2 (talk) 19:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You can confirm if a song is going to be on album or not if the artist who is releasing the album themselves confimrs it, and all of the sources I have posted mention that. ARTPOPist (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You aren't seriously claiming that Lady GaGa never changes her mind, are you? Or lies for publicity purposes? It's not confirmed until it's confirmed by the label on a production tracklist.—Kww(talk) 00:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • So let me get this straight - words straight from the mouth of the artist can confirm that a song will NOT be included on an album, but they can't confirm that a song WILL be? While I agree that a "Confirmed tracks" section doesn't really have a place in the article, whether it can be reliably sourced or not, I don't agree with the reasons being given against it.
    And regarding the Aura/Burqa thing, that whole scenario is speculation. It's entirely possible that Aura and Burqa are two separate songs. It was mostly Gaga's fans hearing the word "Burqa" and jumping to conclusions that brought that up as a title in the first place, when clearly the more obvious title for it is Aura. Of course, they might be the same song, but there's really no place to comment right now.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.222.89 (talk • contribs)
Confirmed it's on, confirmed it's off, it's all the same to me. Until there's a confirmed tracklist, the article shouldn't exist at all. If someone manages to force one to exist, it shouldn't discuss the songs that may or may not be on it because it's all speculation until the final tracklist is announced.—Kww(talk) 14:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Kww. The article can wait, it's not going anywhere. Erick (talk) 19:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not to sound WP:WAXy, I think this consensus would benefit the overload of "Confirmed songs" being added to the Katy Perry album article. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 02:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
These songs are confirmed and performed at the iTunes Festival in London:
  • "Aura"
  • "Manicue"
  • "I Wanna Be With You"
  • "Jewels And Dugs"
  • "Applause"
  • "Swine"
  • "Sex Dreams"
  • "ARTPOP"

77.167.249.7 (talk) 12:57, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed by which secondary sources? Also, performing the songs at a festival does not equate to including them on the album. —C.Fred (talk) 00:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fourth Album?

I can't link to it for some reason, but Gaga or her team sent out a link to pre-order ARTPOP and email and her shop label it as her fourth studio album.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.20.180.64 (talk) 05:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The "Confirmed tracks drama".

Sources at the end. It's ridiculous that the amount of speculation is not adding these songs. She's said in numerous interviews she will be premiering seven new tracks from ARTPOP & I have some sources that agree.

Here's the ones confirmed and performed at iTunes fest (in alphabetical order):

  • Applause (this one is obvious)
  • ARTPOP (do we really need to source this? I mean, there is one, but it doesn't take more than 0.001 seconds it's an ARTPOP track since she made titled tracks on all her albums including her EP)
  • Aura
  • Jewels and Drugs [1]
  • I Wanna Be With You
  • MANiCURE
  • Sex Dreams
  • Swine
  • [1] I would steer clear on the collaborations. She has confirmed Too $hort and Twista, but you never know if they will switch them around songs. For ex. Ratchet & Red Flame (below) were to feature Azealia Banks (source at the very bottom of this post) they could take Too $hort on these tracks leaving him out on Jewels & Drugs.

Sources: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/02/lady-gaga-artpop-itunes-festival_n_3855571.html http://www.nme.com/news/lady-gaga/72393 http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/lady-gaga-premiere-7-new-songs-artpop-album-135408897.html www.justjared.com/2013/09/01/lady-gaga-debuts-new-artpop-songs-at-itunes-festival-watch-now/


The following I don't believe are confirmed. These I understand not adding since there is little to no source and all she does is mention them, but if you don't make an 'Unconfirmed' list, I understand and these aren't just bs titles fans have pulled out of their bottoms.

  • Donatella [1]
  • G.U.Y. (Girl Under You)
  • Gypsy [1]
  • Mary Jane Holland [1]
  • Nothing on (But the Radio) [Lady Gaga was seen playing this track in her car during a paparazzi.]
  • PARTYNAUSEOUS
  • Princess Die [2]
  • Red Flame [3] (this one is probably a cut track, since Azealia Banks was to feature in this one. You can find a video of her on YouTube singing a verse and mentioning the song, but with disputes between her & Gaga, it didn't make it.)
  • Ratchet [3] [4] (Azealia was also to feature on this track, but she said on Twitter she didn't finish her lines in this song, so this one is lost to).
  • Tea (she only released a verse for this song, still don't know rather it would make the album.)


  • [1]Donatella, Gypsy, and Mary Jane Holland were all mentioned in an interview describing the songs at Elle Magazie Oct. issue, but don't confirm to be tracks on ARTPOP)
  • [2]She has performed this and said it would end up on the album, but rumors are spreading around that it won't end up being on the album. So hold up on this
  • [3] She confirmed in this video that Azealia Banks is not on the album, though at 2:33 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QY4TTYddKw So these could've been real tracks at one point, but still not confirmed for the album.
  • [4] There is an instrumental of this song on soundcloud.


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MARY JANE HOLLAND (Produced by Madeon) - Has being confirmed on her twitter account BY HER. SO I'm pretty sure it would be on the album and a "reliable source" PRINCESS DIE - Has being confirmed to not be on the album but on the app. Vincexgaga (talk) 07:03, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Number of tracks.

Should we also include there would be 15 tracks on the standard edition as said on iTunes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.28.218 (talk) 01:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes IloveAnn (talk) 06:31, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects

I created the following redirects to Artpop:

I have already checked for proper disambiguation, so please expand these redirects as article development begins. Thanks! --Another Believer (Talk) 00:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you do that? The tracklist has not been confirmed so there is no proof any of these songs will make the album at all, let alone chart and have significant lasting notability per WP:NSONGS. So of them might end up on the album and become notable, but more than half of these redirects are clearly not viable search terms. Every one of them that are not official album tracks are going to end up being deleted by RfD. STATic message me! 07:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vincexgaga (talk) 09:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC) The only songs from there that are confirmed is Aura, I Wanna Be With You, Manicure, Sex Dreams and Swine. I have no idea where you got those from and those have not been mentioned by her at all. She is releasing the tracklist on the 29th of September so wait till then.[reply]

Update: I created redirects for the confirmed tracks, including some of the above plus:

Apologies for creating incorrect redirects before--I did not realize I was viewing an unreliable source. Please feel free to delete the unnecessary redirects, which I have striked out above. I believe all of the redirects that have been created for the album adhere to Wikipedia's manual of style. --Another Believer (Talk) 17:17, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

--Another Believer (Talk) 04:14, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested that some of the links above be deleted. Others have been redirected to the appropriate existing disambiguation page (there are other songs by these titles). Question regarding naming conventions for two of the confirmed tracks: is "Sex Dreams" or "Sexxx Dreams" more in accordance with MoS? Ditto for "Jewels and Drugs" vs. "Jewels n' Drugs"? --Another Believer (Talk) 15:56, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The "Singles" section.

Please, for the love of god, can someone edit this? It looks like it was edited by Lady Gaga forum goers who watch every Lady Gaga tweet. Now, don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that, but PLEASE stop it with the Twitter sources and editing the wiki page with EVERY thing she tweets about. It's kinda unnecessary! ~Sorry If I came on too harsh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.28.218 (talk) 06:47, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the german release date listed?

Normally for american artists, the american release date is what is listed.

I know it's released in Germany first, but it seems odd. The media and the artist herself lists the date as November 11, so that should be under the release date. The overseas dates are secondary.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Born2booze (talk • contribs)

Actually, it's supposed to be the earliest release date in all cases. Sometimes we have trouble with American editors overwriting the dates with American release dates.—Kww(talk) 16:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fashion!

Do we know if "Fashion!" is this previously released song? --Another Believer (Talk) 17:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

add Gypsy info please

source In the singles section, can someone add that on October 7, 2013 her official Facebook cover photo was updated showing the album's official cover art with text next to it that read: The new album featuring ‘Applause’ and ‘Gypsy' availalbe November 11". The cover was later updated and Gypsy was removed. but i still think its notable to be mentioned because it is a hint that Gypsy was supposed to be the second single before Gaga decided to go with Venus instead.

It is not necessary to. This page does not need to contain every little thing that happens leading up to the release. Vincexgaga (talk) 05:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MANiCURE

Why is MANiCURE written as Manicure? It has a double meaning, the nail treatment and being cured by men, so it should be MANiCURE and not Manicure. Dope on the other hand should be written in lower case. 82.181.198.121 (talk) 13:47, 11 October 2013 (UTC) "MANiCURE" would not follow Wikipedia's manual of style, as far as I can tell. The article title would be "Manicure", with a note that the text is stylized as "MANiCURE". See the article for "You and I" (Lady Gaga) for example. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:37, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Venus (Lady Gaga song)

The link above can be expanded as soon as enough information exists for the album's second single. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gypsy

GYPSY Gaga Said it was produced by Madeon AND Redone.

VENUS PRODUCER There is no confirmed producer for this. Why on earth would you list the rumoured female producer

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