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::One last, I read the Linux/Name, GNU/Linux controversy, there doesn't seem to be any consensus. The consensus seems to be no consensus. I haven't changed yet, but will tomorrow. [[Special:Contributions/24.21.185.255|24.21.185.255]] ([[User talk:24.21.185.255|talk]]) 21:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC) |
::One last, I read the Linux/Name, GNU/Linux controversy, there doesn't seem to be any consensus. The consensus seems to be no consensus. I haven't changed yet, but will tomorrow. [[Special:Contributions/24.21.185.255|24.21.185.255]] ([[User talk:24.21.185.255|talk]]) 21:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC) |
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:::As I posted on your talk page there is a very long standing consensus on this issue, predominantly at [[Talk:Linux]] and especially [[Talk:Linux/Name]]. This consensus says that we will use the actual name of a distro, so that if they call themselves "Trisquel GNU/Linux" we will mention that once, but all other mentions of GNU/Linux are not used, even if they call it themselves, because it is POV. For example the consensus is that we can say "Trisquel GNU/Linux is a [[Linux distribution]], but not "Trisquel GNU/Linux is a [[GNU/Linux distribution]]". Look at it this way: if Ford started calling their products "autodynes" to differentiate them from the competition, Wikipedia would still call them "cars" because we doesn't use company marketing terms here, we use [[WP:COMMONNAME]] instead. The commons names are determined by consensus specifically to avoid POV bias in articles and to avoid confusing readers by calling the same things by different names in different articles. As a result "GNU/Linux" is called "Linux" on Wikipedia. As I noted if you want to change this you don't try to change one reference in an article like Trisquel, you go to [[Talk:Linux]] and make your case there that all articles should be changed. You can note this has been tried many dozens of times, but the consensus still stands. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt#top|talk]]) 22:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC) |
:::As I posted on your talk page there is a very long standing consensus on this issue, predominantly at [[Talk:Linux]] and especially [[Talk:Linux/Name]]. This consensus says that we will use the actual name of a distro, so that if they call themselves "Trisquel GNU/Linux" we will mention that once, but all other mentions of GNU/Linux are not used, even if they call it themselves, because it is POV. For example the consensus is that we can say "Trisquel GNU/Linux is a [[Linux distribution]], but not "Trisquel GNU/Linux is a [[GNU/Linux distribution]]". Look at it this way: if Ford started calling their products "autodynes" to differentiate them from the competition, Wikipedia would still call them "cars" because we doesn't use company marketing terms here, we use [[WP:COMMONNAME]] instead. The commons names are determined by consensus specifically to avoid POV bias in articles and to avoid confusing readers by calling the same things by different names in different articles. As a result "GNU/Linux" is called "Linux" on Wikipedia. As I noted if you want to change this you don't try to change one reference in an article like Trisquel, you go to [[Talk:Linux]] and make your case there that all articles should be changed. You can note this has been tried many dozens of times, but the consensus still stands. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt#top|talk]]) 22:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC) |
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== Chitwanix_OS == |
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Done - Ahunt (talk) 21:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Articles nominated for deletion
Just for information I have declined the speedy deletion of these three articles as they dont appear be promotional in nature and conform to what would be expected for this type of article and clearly do not need a fundamental rewrite. I have suggested to Timtrent that if he has other issues with the article they can be raised on the article talk pages or they can nominate them for deletion at AfD, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 21:14, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing the nominations. - Ahunt (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Madness, thank you for creating the articles, it would be easy to give up and loose heart with incidents like this. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 22:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your vote of support! Well over zealous people can make trying to build an encyclopedia more "fun" than it should be! - Ahunt (talk) 00:20, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
No reason
The replacement was not done for "no reason". The new image is of much higher quality as a quick inspection should show. Feel free to revert your revert. --Dschwen 21:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- As per WP:AIRCRAFT-IMAGES, please take it to the talk page for a full discussion. - Ahunt (talk) 21:50, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, so any way to dump a useless infobox?
OK, so I tried to toss from the userbox list a very low quality userbox that isn't being actively used and created by a user who hasn't edited for years - and you reverted. Didn't want the drahmah of an RfD because the box is userfied, so what's the next step per BRD if it can't be tossed from the list? Montanabw(talk) 18:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well my first question would be why bother trying to delete it? Userboxes are not encyclopedia content and so different rules apply than for articles, so perhaps someone will get some use out of it if they can find it on the page there. You say it isn't being actively used, but this shows that it is actually being currently used by 51 users on their user pages. If you think it is really worth pursuing then as per WP:BRD I would suggest taking it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Userboxes, suggest removing it from the page there and see what others have to say, if anything. - Ahunt (talk) 18:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Probably best. It's just ugly and redundant. And no one using it is an active user any more as far as I can tell, certainly no one active at wikiproject equine. I suppose I could just edit it so it is identical to the other horse userbox and see if anyone yells at me about it. The user is clearly no longer editing wikipedia. Montanabw(talk) 20:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think making it prettier would be a good idea! - Ahunt (talk) 20:27, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Or just create a new, alternative one - the old one isn't breaking anything, after all! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- There already is an alternative one. ;-) Just want to get rid of one on the page that has the "collection" Let the people who care ask to restore it. ;-) Montanabw(talk) 23:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just curious as to why? - The Bushranger One ping only 00:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Cleanup, mostly, and to make it easier to track people interested in horses for an invite to Wikiproject equine. Toss inactive cruft, that wort of thing. Also trying to tone down the 14-year-old girl-who-is-giddy-about-horses element that is our second-highest level of vandalism to articles (the first being the 14-year old boy inserting assorted words for genitalia, like everywhere else on wiki...) Montanabw(talk) 19:06, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just curious as to why? - The Bushranger One ping only 00:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- There already is an alternative one. ;-) Just want to get rid of one on the page that has the "collection" Let the people who care ask to restore it. ;-) Montanabw(talk) 23:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Or just create a new, alternative one - the old one isn't breaking anything, after all! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think making it prettier would be a good idea! - Ahunt (talk) 20:27, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Mir
Hi.
You recently edited the Mir article. I'd like your input on my allegation that ScotXW added original research and contradictory claims. Could as well be that I am missing something. Please comment on Talk:Mir_(display_server_protocol)#Display_server_protocol.3F. Thanks. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 10:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Done - Ahunt (talk) 13:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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- Apparently someone else uploaded a new version as a new file instead of replacing this one, so this logo can now be deleted. - Ahunt (talk) 14:52, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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- Since the aircraft has now flown it is at least theoretically possible that a free image might be taken, so this image is probably no longer justifiable at this point in time. - Ahunt (talk) 00:17, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
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- Thank you! - Ahunt (talk) 11:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your note. We do have Moyes Litespeed done so far. Creating an article on the company is on my list but I have been looking for some good references that outline the company history, do you have any? - Ahunt (talk) 12:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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Please see the discussion at User talk:Mogism#Honourary to Honorary., especially the first three edits. Don't miss the Canadian government's spelling quiz answers, Set 3. Chris the speller yack 00:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. - Ahunt (talk) 11:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Quadracycles
Hello Ahunt! I noticed the quadracycle page had much debate and you seemed to know a lot about the subject. I am new to wikipedia and I was wondering if you could help me contribute to the article; I am becoming very interested in these machines. (I'm thinking about building one, actually)
Sorry if this isn't the right place, I'm not sure how to contact other users outside of the talk pages. Thank you. Jofurson (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Great to hear from you, no problem asking that here! I can help you, what information and references do you think ought to be added to the article? - Ahunt (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Chromebook
It was only in the talk section? As per Wikipedia's guidelines for new users I corrected and made information more concise and readable in addition to adding current and actually relevant information to the main article (Which is horrible in comparison to any other wiki on the topic). If Wikipedia is like other wikis you can look at the change history. One of the areas I removed from the :Talk section was speculation about the Google Pixel being a rumor or not. Should something that is confirmed still stay in :Talk? I don't believe so. BotOrNot (talk) 03:48, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- For purposes of following conversation history by later editors coming along we don't delete conversations from talk pages. If a thread turns out to be overtaken by events or shown to be not correct then we can add a note to the conversation, but we don't delete conversations. If there page gets too long we create archives to preserve talk page conversations. - Ahunt (talk) 14:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Belatedly, here's the official guidelines: WP:TPO Perhaps you'll find it useful. Barte (talk) 02:17, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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ACR
Hi Ahunt, I'm thinking about nominating RAH-66 for A-class status at MilHist. What do you think about this? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 01:54, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Sure, why not? - Ahunt (talk) 11:53, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- If you think the article is fit enough, I'll nom. it shortly, after the ACR of AV-8B is over. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 23:19, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- I am probably not the best judge of its fitness as I tend to stay out of GA, A Class and so on debates. - Ahunt (talk) 23:33, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- If you think the article is fit enough, I'll nom. it shortly, after the ACR of AV-8B is over. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 23:19, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
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NIce MFO photos.
I was there with you and I recognize a couple people in those photos. Bob the FE on top of the huey and Randy, receiving tea, a great test pilot who was a great guy. It was a good tour and it remains in my memory as a fun time. A cpl from maintenance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.48.244 (talk) 15:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note here - it is amazing who reads Wikipedia! - Ahunt (talk) 15:49, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Trisquel distro name
I redid it. I am not trying to change the consensus, just correct factual information. See GNewSense and Parabola GNU/Linux-libre. Both of them use the term "GNU/Linux" because its the official term they use. The same way Trisquel does. If you look at GNU section, those three seems to be GNU/Linux distro. The consensus seems to be GNU/Linux is fine for GNU/Linux distros that officially call themselves GNU/Linux distro but not for distros that call don't officially state themselves to be GNU/Linux. 24.21.185.255 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:39, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- The consensus is that it doesn't work that way on Wikipedia. You can call it "Trisquel GNU/Linux" because that is what they call their own product, but you can't call it a GNU/Linux-libre distro, because the consensus here is to call that a Linux-libre distro and you can tell because you have to pipe the link to make it point at the right article. - Ahunt (talk) 20:25, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- Trisquel is the name of the distribution, but they are distributing it as "fully free GNU/Linux based operating system for home users, small enterprises and educational centers". Saying they are linux-libre distribution is incorrect, especially when the official linux-libre also states they are GNU/Linux-libre. I am not saying every Linux distribution = GNU/Linux, I'm saying those that officially state they are GNU/Linux should be presented as such. I don't see a point in hiding this. I'm new to wiki so I don't understand how it works, but I'm pretty sure factual information/truth > status quo. If you read the Trisquel citation links, many of the articles also state its a GNU/Linux distro. 24.21.185.255 (talk) 21:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- Also, Linux-libre is different project from Linux. 24.21.185.255 (talk) 21:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- One last, I read the Linux/Name, GNU/Linux controversy, there doesn't seem to be any consensus. The consensus seems to be no consensus. I haven't changed yet, but will tomorrow. 24.21.185.255 (talk) 21:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- As I posted on your talk page there is a very long standing consensus on this issue, predominantly at Talk:Linux and especially Talk:Linux/Name. This consensus says that we will use the actual name of a distro, so that if they call themselves "Trisquel GNU/Linux" we will mention that once, but all other mentions of GNU/Linux are not used, even if they call it themselves, because it is POV. For example the consensus is that we can say "Trisquel GNU/Linux is a Linux distribution, but not "Trisquel GNU/Linux is a GNU/Linux distribution". Look at it this way: if Ford started calling their products "autodynes" to differentiate them from the competition, Wikipedia would still call them "cars" because we doesn't use company marketing terms here, we use WP:COMMONNAME instead. The commons names are determined by consensus specifically to avoid POV bias in articles and to avoid confusing readers by calling the same things by different names in different articles. As a result "GNU/Linux" is called "Linux" on Wikipedia. As I noted if you want to change this you don't try to change one reference in an article like Trisquel, you go to Talk:Linux and make your case there that all articles should be changed. You can note this has been tried many dozens of times, but the consensus still stands. - Ahunt (talk) 22:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Chitwanix_OS
Hello Ahunt, the article Chitwanix_OS is not for promotional, we wanted to provide some information of the distro in wikipedia only, As the links that are provided in the deletion page of the article are the reference. It must be a reliable source for Notability. Thank You