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BracketBot – Satbuff

Page: Sat-IP

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Comment/question: This page is about a communications protocol called 'Sat>IP'. Although the page title cannot reflect this (and is called Sat-IP), throughout the page the term, Sat>IP is used and this has triggered BracketBot in about 45 instances! In this page, the '>' symbol is not being used as a bracket so if there is some way to exclude the term Sat>IP or the Sat-IP page from detection of '<>' syntax errors by BracketBot, that would be useful in the future. Thanks Satbuff (talk) 15:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A situation like this might need a permanent tag in the article. As it stands, an editor can avoid BracketBot's attention by including a "!nobot!" in the edit summary, but that only works once. If a subsequent editor changes anything and thus triggers a BracketBot visit, then the 45 instances will recur. Could you code something similar to the "NoBracketBot" command for editors, but to be used in an article? — Molly-in-md (talk) 16:14, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just looked at the code again, and found that I could add it in easily, contrary to what I thought earlier. Inserting {{NoBracketBot}} into an article should make BracketBot ignore it. Feel free to test. 930913(Congratulate) 19:08, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for catching the bracket error in my edit in Theodicy. Vejlefjord (talk) 16:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, thank you for fixing it! Huon (talk) 20:24, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New REFBot

There is a suggestion on Wikipedia:Bot requests#New REFBot for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Maybe you could work on it like you did it with BrackBot? That would be fine. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze (talk · contribs) 04:13, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unwelcome bot welcomes

Is BracketBot welcoming new users now? I think it might be best if that task were left up to humans who can assess the substantive merits of one another's edits. In this case, broken syntax was the least of problems with the IP's only edit. Rivertorch (talk) 19:28, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Rivertorch: Per the BRFA, since the first trial, BracketBot has welcomed on any new page it has created. It is assumed better to welcome vandals than not welcome newbies who make genuine mistakes. 930913(Congratulate) 20:26, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Boo hiss. I think I understand the principle, but it's beyond me why we'd think anyone would want to be welcomed by a bot in the first place. Thanks for your prompt and informative reply, however, and for your good work in creating BracketBot. Rivertorch (talk) 03:44, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unmatched parentheses

Thank you, BracketBot.

It doesn't always work. You have to consider context and even understand the materialnot only semantically but also, in fact, pragmatically.

Consider the following snippet of C code (I'm not saying that this is a wonderful comment in the line, but it might be appropriate for, say, someone sending a message to his subordinate):

 *p++ = 'e';    /* deleted extraneous '(' and its buddy */

As you can see, the parentheses are "mismatched," but they really aren't.

That's why the bot doesn't even attempt to fix the issues itself but notifies a human. There are dozens of types of possible false positives, and "a comment within a snippet of C code" is rather uncommon in the Wikipedia context. If you know of a way to significantly reduce the number of false positives without building something that can pass a Turing test, I'm sure A930913 would be open to suggestions. Huon (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hi A930913. Thank you for writing BracketBot.

Hello, A930913. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested.
Message added 21:46, 5 November 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Cheers! —Unforgettableid (talk) 21:46, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One day at a time, please?

In October, Bracketbot picked up two mistakes I'd made - one on the 12th, one on the 29th. I'd have found it much clearer if it had listed the second one at the bottom of my talk page, with its own heading, rather than under "October 2013", created 17 days earlier, since when I'd had several other messages. I got a notification that I'd got a talk page message, then had to dig around to find it. The disambiguation bot gives its messages heading like "Disambiguation link notification for November 1", which is much clearer.

I can see the value in putting various "User warning" templates under the heading for a month, to group them together - but presumably Bracketbot AGFs and is generally picking up typos (I have a bad habit of taking finger off shift key too soon or too late and producing "[{" etc), so its helpful messages are informative and advisory rather than warnings, and would be more appropriately put at the bottom of the user's talk page.

If there are reasons why it's better for them to be at the monthly heading, could you provide an option for those of us who'd rather see them at the bottom of the page? Thanks.

That said, I think it's a very useful bot and am always happy to go and fix the things it tells me to fix! Well done for providing this useful aid for sloppy typists who don't always remember to use "Show Preview"! PamD 22:51, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just looked at last archive and see that this has been raised before and you said it was "a deliberate decision" to use one section per month. I'd ask you to reconsider. PamD 08:43, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: There shouldn't be a problem letting people competent enough to opt in, receive a daily header instead.

+@Pol430, CambridgeBayWeather, Pinethicket, Pigsonthewing, and Lugnuts: Test {{DailyBracketBot}} for me if you would. 930913(Congratulate) 06:44, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 06:50, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, the template looks useful ... but I've added it to my user talk page, done a couple of test edits, and it's still putting the messages under "November 2013". I added a talk page comment below that section, in case that affected it, but the next test still got added to the month's heading. Does the template need some time before it takes effect? Or ... ? PamD 08:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: Looks like the lack of the template on the userpage overwrote that of the talkpage. Fixed. 930913(Congratulate) 14:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

... and now tested, and working fine. Thank you very much for providing this option I requested! PamD 17:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, if the diambig bot can do this, why not this one? I'll revert any further messages from this chocolate fireguard of a bot until it's fit for purpose. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:57, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts: Add {{DailyBracketBot}} to your user or talk page. DPL bot doesn't deal with so much vandalism, so it's easier to have its own daily header. 930913(Congratulate) 14:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it is working User talk:CambridgeBayWeather#Bracket Errors on 9 November rather than the User talk:CambridgeBayWeather#October 2013. Just curious but does it not see errors in the external links section? CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 15:31, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Roywbrown

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I dont understand what is going on. I am in the process of creating the page about the Chateau de Beduer. Yes, creating, not "vandalising" I dont know who you are bor what you think you are doing but I do most stronly protest.

What do you mean by vandalising?

Roy brown

Roywbrown (talk) 05:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Roywbrown: - If you read your talk page carefully, you'll see that there are three different posts. The post made by BracketBot mentioned nothing about vandalism. ClueBot NG reverted edits when you blanked the page. GoingBatty (talk) 01:56, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Angle brackets

Hallo, I wonder what proportion of problems with unmatched ">" or "<" are when the characters are used as greater/less than? Might it help if the bot checked whether the next character (possibly after a space) is a digit, and ignored cases where it was so? I wondered if it might reduce false positives at cost of only a very few missed real cases. I imagine the symbols get used in tables etc quite a bit. Or are they deprecated in WP:MOSNUM? .... no, quick check shows they are listed under Wikipedia:MOSNUM#Common_mathematical_symbols but there is no mention of their use or non-use in tables etc. Just a thought. PamD 11:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Grace S. Green

Page: Benjamin Cleveland

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Grace S. Green (talk) 16:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC) Do you want me to remove the brackets? I don't understand what edit to fix.[reply]

@Grace S. Green: - You first added "{second cousin of Susannah Graves. Wills of Joseph Graves and Benjamin Cleveland. Grace S. Green]", and the left bracket doesn't match the right brace. You then changed them to "[[" and "]]", which created a big red link. If you could please explain what you're trying to do, I would be happy to help you. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Peter Flass

'Command-line interface

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"code" fragment, unpaired parenthesis legitimate. Peter Flass (talk) 18:27, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Yelverton - brackets

Hello, BracketBot! Thanks for your note. I've looked at the article, and could see a lonely bracket (from an old edit of mine, in May). But on checking the latest version (following an UNRELATED edit of mine today), it seems to have disappeared. I don't know what this could have been. but I think the article is looking OK now. Please reply to my TalkPage or fix any bracket error. With best wishes, FClef (talk) 17:16, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have fixed the issue raised today yourself. Huon (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Rudrabhawani

Resolved

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Rudrabhawani (talk) 08:39, 11 November 2013 (UTC) thanks for add my article about my village its 100 % true information thank you so much[reply]

Whether or not the information was true, you did not cite any reliable sources, and the text was copy-pasted from somewhere else - a copyright violation. Huon (talk) 23:33, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Anythreewilldo

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Re edit to Ross Noble. Thanks for highlighting the error .I have re edited it .It is my first edit and getting used to the system.

Anythreewilldo (talk) 19:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, thank you for fixing it! Huon (talk) 23:33, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Nathaniel Glover jr

Resolved

Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kidd_Creole#Early_days

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Comment/question: with all due respect I was correcting the spelling of Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Mele Mel....it's not melle (like being in a fist fight) if you would (or had) listened to the old tapes of him when spells his name out you would know this Bracketbot Nathaniel Glover jr (talk) 19:57, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Nathaniel Glover jr: - With all due respect, BracketBot didn't mention anything about spelling. It only pointed out an extra parenthesis, which I have fixed. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFBOT

Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. When the bot flag is set it will show up in this log. Josh Parris 22:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Improving the help desk posts

Congratulations on the new RefBot, it seems to be working well!

Here's a suggestion for the "Ask for help" links that the bot places on user talk pages. Could you arrange for the help desk section heading "Referencing errors on <article name>" to be followed by {{la|<article name>}}? That would save time for the volunteers at the help desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:41, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@John of Reading: Could I, I would. The technical limitation imposed by the mediawiki software only allow me to pass the page in the title, not the content (unless someone knows a way round it.) At best, I could link the page in the header, though I recall this being frowned upon. Just a note, much of ReferenceBot is using templates, so that anyone with the technical competence can edit them. It might be worth asking at technical for ideas. 930913(Congratulate) 11:43, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looking around the API, I get as far as bugzilla:12853, logged in 2008. So I won't hold my breath waiting for this one! -- John of Reading (talk) 13:24, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – 223.224.14.115

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223.224.14.115 (talk) 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC) wrong message man , i didn't ever edit anything on wikipedia.[reply]

BracketBot – MrNiceGuy1113

Page: = Marion Technical College {{Official website|http://www.mtc.edu/ } about broken syntax

           =  Impington Village College  {{Schools in Cambridgeshire

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Hello Bracketbot, Sorry to write that the broken syntax appear fixed so I took the liberty to remove the notification. Best regards. (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 16:50, 12 November 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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BracketBot – Allieflowers47

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Allieflowers47 (talk) 01:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC) I don't understand where there is a bracket problem. Thank you.[reply]

BracketBot – Becky613

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Becky613 (talk) 03:29, 13 November 2013 (UTC) Dear BracketBot[reply]

Thank you for your message about my addition to the Civil Disobedience page. I wanted to make a new header with my opening title on Freedom of Worship but do not know how, can you help?

I fixed the brackets you noted. Many thanks

Becky613 (talk) 03:29, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BracketBot – Becky613

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Becky613 (talk) 03:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC) I fixed the brackets, how do I make a sub title? Thanks@ Becky613 (talk) 03:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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