Talk:International recognition of Kosovo

Grenada recognises the Republic of Kosovo

Kosovar Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj announced earlier on Twitter the recognisition of the Republic of Kosovo by Grenada: Tweet by Enver Hoxhaj. The news has since been spreading on the Kosovar media Telegrafi, Koha, Zëri, Gazeta Express and so on. Kosovar (talk) 15:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I've updated it. IJA (talk) 17:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Libya

Apparently Libya has also recognised Kosovo. [1] and [2] We should wait for more confirmation. IJA (talk) 17:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Telegrafi is reporting it, too [3] - ILBobby (talk) 18:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Here's a Libyan story about it [4] - ILBobby (talk) 18:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

"Libya's reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence" proposed move to "Kosovo–Libya relations"

Please can you voice your opinions here. Regards IJA (talk) 19:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thailand - UN hat-trick

As promised, the UN hat-trick is complete with the recognition of Kosova by the Kingdom of Thailand. FM Enver Hoxhaj announced the news and it is now being reported by the Kosovar media, such as Telegrafi or RTK Kosovar (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2013 (UTC) Thailand is in the recognition bracket twice, as number 104 and 107. 13GravBr ([User talk: 13GravBr|talk]) 17:25, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Moving the Thailand entry from non-recognizers to here until something can by done with it. --Khajidha (talk) 23:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

| Thailand || In February 2008, Thailand was awaiting the decision of the UNSC.
In March 2012, Thai deputy prime minister, Yuthasak Sasiprapha, said that he was following the developments in the Balkans and Kosovo and that steps will be taken to facilitate travel by Kosovo's citizens in Thailand. In a 12 March 2012 interview after his visit to Bangkok, Albanian deputy prime minister and Foreign Minister, Edmond Haxhinasto, said that Thai authorities have made the first steps toward the recognition of Kosovo. In a 5 May 2012 meeting between the Foreign Ministers of Thailand and Kosovo, Surapong Tovichakchaikul and Enver Hoxhaj, Mr. Surapong said that recognition of Kosovo would be seriously considered by his country, and that there would soon be positive news for Kosovo. He added that Kosovo's independence has contributed to peace and security in the region and Europe. On 6 May 2012, Thai Deputy Foreign Minister, Jullapong Nonsrichai told Hoxhaj that very soon the two countries would enter into diplomatic relations. In a November 2012 meeting with Hoxhaj, Mr. Jullapong said that his government has a positive position on the recognition of Kosovo and that he personally has knowledge that the recognition is on its way and is interested in collaboration between the two countries. |-

Do we have enough for a stand alone article? IJA (talk) 09:42, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

New Map

How hard is for us to make the map, similar something like this from BBC "http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24464020", where the country's name will appear as you hover with the mouse in top of them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.65.168.73 (talk) 08:11, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

It's doable, although it would be an awful lot of work to get 195 or so names to appear in such a small map when the mouse hovers over a country. Also, unlike the BBC map provided it wouldn't really provide much information besides a country name; and all the relevant information is already provided in tables within the article. Doesn't really seem worth it just because a user might not know where Zimbabwe is unless the map tells them. It doesn't look like similar international recognition articles bother with this map feature either.Konchevnik81 (talk) 14:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I may be confusing this with another feature, but my impression was that image annotations are disabled on enwiki [5].—Emil J. 14:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

It's not terribly common, but it does seem to be out there, for example at States_and_union_territories_of_India. That at least brings up the name and the wiki article link when you hover the mouse over a state, but I would also admit that I'm not 100% sure that it's the same thing as annotation. As far as I can see no foreign policy/international relations articles with maps bother with anything like this though. Konchevnik81 (talk) 15:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The map at the Indian states article is an image map. The actual image doesn't contain links; these are added by MediaWiki's image map extension. SiBr₄ ⚑ 15:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The Indian states map works because it's possible to fit the states, at a recognisable size, into a reasonably sized image. That doesn't work so well with a world map; how can we neatly pinpoint hundreds of small and large countries (and various territorial quirks) on an image that's still small enough to fit into the rest of the article? It would take a lot of effort for modest benefit - we can get much better ROI elsewhere. (But, hey, this is a volunteer project and everybody has different ideas about where their effort is best applied) bobrayner (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Republic of Kosovo

There are some rather important discussions going on at Talk:Republic of Kosovo and I would like to give all the opportunity to give their input into these discussions. IJA (talk) 11:46, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

New article help please

I am planning to create a new article called Kosovan local elections, 2013. I think it will be considered a very notable article due to the build up to it, the participation of Serbs, the results and the violence which occurred in Northern Kosovo. If you would like to help me establish this article then please message me on my talk page. All are welcome. IJA (talk) 19:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

"Yet another step towards full recognition"

Text near-identical to the following one:

None the less, in November, 2013, the Serb government took yet another step towards full recognition of the Republic of Kosovo.<ref>{{cite news|title=|url=http://www.glasamerike.net/content/kosovo-eu/1621525.html|date=November 5, 2013}}</ref>

was added to about 20 Kosovo-related articles [6] by Cognoscerapo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) around 5 November. Even a casual view to his contributions reveals that he's a pro-Kosovar POV-pusher (likely a sockpuppet) who is WP:NOTHERE to build the encyclopedia, so I just rolled back most of his edits. Just because something is "sourced" is not a sufficient reason to keep the text. The sentence above has zero informational value, not explaining in a single word which step would that be, and according to whom this untold something represents a step towards full recognition. The cited text actually does not support the sentence: it is a run-of-the-mill press conference statement (Translation) by Kosovo leader Hashim Thaci, which naturally proclaims a "[near] agreement on the full normalization of relations between [Republic of] Kosovo and Serbia." Thus, nothing to see here. No such user (talk) 07:39, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

That sentence is just the opinion of a journalist called Budimir Ničić, it is of no use to this article. This is an encyclopaedia, we deal with facts not the opinions of journalists. IJA (talk) 13:49, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

It is not even that; the journalist did not express any particular opinion, and even Thaci did not go as far as to formulate it as "step towards full recognition" (and why should Thaci give a damn whether Serbia recognizes Kosovo, as long as the UN and other relevant bodies would do it first). The statement is completely falsified. I'm sure that statements similar to the one above could be dug out if one searches the media hard enough, and cherry-picks the quote, but we should not build our articles on partisan positions. No such user (talk) 14:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. The article doesn't mention anything about recognition. Tacking a random link on the end of a sentence doesn't make the claim sourced. Also, adding the word "yet" to the sentence "The Government of Serbia does not recognise it as a sovereign state" is inappropriate as it implies that Serbia will eventually recognize. It isn't our place to take a position on that. It would equivalent to saying "Kosovo has not yet returned to Serbian control." TDL (talk) 18:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Sao Tome

If the govt of the country says no, then no amount of disagreement can Kosovo can change that. Kosovo doesn't control Sao Tome's policy, Sao Tome does. So clearly the recognistion was null and voi.d kosovos wish to inflate recognition numbers is not going to change the fact that there wasn't recognition, or rescinded recognition(Lihaas (talk) 09:00, 15 January 2014 (UTC)).

Go away and read the archives. IJA (talk) 20:44, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Tonga

Kosovar media are reporting that Tonga has recognised the independence of the Republic of Kosovo: Koha. Gazeta Express, Zëri. No word from the Kosovar MFA yet though. Kosovar (talk) 15:30, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Enver Hoxhaj, the Kosovar foreign minister, tweeted about the news though [7] and so did the Kosovar prime minister. Kosovar (talk) 15:47, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

The MFA has retweeted Hoxhaj's tweet about the recognition. I don't think that they'd do that if there were no substance to it. Bazonka (talk) 18:23, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

105 OR 107????

http://www.balkaneu.com/recognition-kosovo-2014-105-countries-total/

Hi friends, we have 107 states in the list,but Thaci says 105. So which two states are still disputed? thank you. Sascha,Germany84.171.44.54 (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Well the problem is,that the Kosovo-MFA is largely incompetent!!! They could clarify the real number,but they are not updating their list. 96,105,106,107,no one knows the actual number of official recognitions. Sascha,Germany, 84.171.42.197 (talk) 08:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.mfa-ks.net/?page=1,33

Be careful Sascha. — Bazonka (talk) 10:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Nigeria, Uganda

What happened with Nigerian and Ugandan recognitions, in the end? They were apparently contested, and an anon just removed them. I'm reluctant to revert, as apparently there is at least some ground for that removal. No such user (talk) 18:31, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I haven´t removed them! I simply wanted to start a legitimate discussion,why Thaci quotes 105 recognitions,while this site has 107. This discussion is necessary.Something is wrong with two states and i personally don´t know whether or not they are Nigeria and Uganda. Sao Tome is also possible. The main problem is,that the MFA-Kosovo-website has only 96 states on it´s actual list,because the site has not been updated for almost 13 months!!! The Kosovo-MFA must clarify. Sascha,Germany84.171.42.197 (talk) 21:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

And the justification that was previously provided, that the recognitions of El Salvador and Tanzania were not being counted because they hadn't been confirmed in a note verbale, is no longer true. Every time a state has recognized in the last year or so, it is reported (both by the media and Kosovar authorities) at 2 less then what we have. We've clearly got something wrong, but unfortunately since there are three candidates (Sao Tome/Uganda/Nigeria) it isn't clear what to do about it... TDL (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

We can't be doing WP:Original Research and we can't be guessing either. We have the disputed tags, that's sufficient. IJA (talk) 20:18, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

So, maybe this list is one big OR, isn’t it? Is any source confirm this list? Is this list based on the Third-party sources? I don’t think – as I see in the references, most of them are primary sources. You should prepare this list in accordance with Wikipedia policy, not with yourselves imagination about this list.