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Likely horrible idea

In your opinion, does the idea behind http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Module:Sandbox/Jackmcbarn/PolymorphicEditProtected have any merit, or is it too complicated and breakable? (If the former, are there any other places it may be useful?) Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

That's a pretty neat trick. :) I think it might be too difficult for your average protected edit requester to get their head around, though. I think you would see people manually removing the safesubst before making an edit, and I expect there are a significant percentage of people who just don't get all this #invoke and module stuff in the first place. I'd say it's best to keep edit requests done by templates if we can. As to whether we can put it to use somewhere else, I'm not sure. Nothing springs to mind, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a place where it might fit. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:30, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Good idea about the module being too complicated. I reworked it to act like a regular template, with only the safesubst: out of the ordinary. I'll ask Technical 13 what he thinks as well. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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{{Template:Rfplinks}}

Hey, since I most often see you answering PERM requests (for TE anyways), what do you think of the changes I've been making to {{Rfplinks}}? Technical 13 (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Looks good! I'd rather you didn't use <tt>...</tt> tags though, as they make the template fail HTML 5 validation. Also, it would be really useful if we could work in a link to template + template talk contribs with a limit of 999 for the template editor page. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:09, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

• I've been trying to figure out a way to get a list of all Template talk, Module talk, and MediaWiki talk: contributions for a user with an edit summary that includes /Edit ([ protecd]*?) request/i so I can add a link for all edit requests. Turning up dry... so far.. Considering putting a tool for it on labs myself. Technical 13 (talk) 01:53, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Module:ConvertNumeric and Module:NumberSpell

I see you created the module Module:NumberSpell. However, there has already been Module:ConvertNumeric, which, if I don't misunderstand, has the same functionality as NumberSpell. Isn't it better to merge these two modules together? --Nullzero (talk) 01:02, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I wasn't aware of Module:ConvertNumeric when I wrote Module:NumberSpell. ConvertNumeric is much more complete than NumberSpell, though, so it is probably best to convert existing uses of NumberSpell over to ConvertNumeric and then delete it. It's not a complicated module, so it won't be any great loss. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Wiki-hounded at Philosophy of education

Hello Mr. Stradivarius,

I am being Wiki-hounded on the Philosophy of education article and would appreciate some intervention.

stmullin

There is a vote on the Philosophy of education page concerning Thales of Miletus . . . I need some support with his defense . . . could you visit that page and cast your vote? Stmullin (talk) 02:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, Stmullin, but this is called canvassing and isn't allowed on Wikipedia. I've left a note in the discussion about this as well. If you feel you need help with that page, the proper thing to do is to go through dispute resolution. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

I have used the strike prompt to achieve neutrality. Hope that is sufficient. Stmullin (talk) 14:12, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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R from move

Hi, Mr. S! I just tried to convert {{R from move}} so that it uses {{Redirect template}} and found it fully "cascade protected". I went to Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items, but I was unable to find R from move listed there. Is there another page that cascade protects pages? – Paine Ellsworth ^CLIMAX! 03:20, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The page causing the problem is Wikipedia:New admin school/Protecting deleted pages/Transclusionist. I've requested that it be fixed. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:45, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

And I've removed the protection. Actually, there are quite a few pages that have cascading protection enabled. As well as the main page (and related pages) and Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items, there are a number of "lockboxes" that individual administrators have set up. You can check out the full list here. (A lot of those probably should be cleaned up or unprotected.) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:52, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) I've had issues with cascading protection that couldn't be found as well. I'm working on a user script (based on Anomie's template transclusion script, but with a few new functions and an easier to read appearance (so of the log entries make the lines hard to read, it's not the script itself , just the info it retrieves). I'd like to see a lot of the cascade protected "lock-boxes" merged or eliminated, there's really no reason for it. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 04:04, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you all! I'd imagine it could get pretty complicated over the years. – Paine Ellsworth ^CLIMAX! 04:09, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox element

update to {{documentation}} has resulted in Template:Infobox element showing a script error. the problem appears to be from the size of the templates transcluded within the documentation, in particular inclusion of the periodic table in Template:Periodic table templates. a simple fix would be to remove the periodic table from Template:Periodic table templates, since it's not really helpful for navigation between periodic table templates, but I thought I would check to see if there was another solution. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I've replied over at Template talk:Documentation#Script error. Thanks for letting me know. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

function message()

I found that function message() in Module:Documentation is very useful. Unlike string.format(), it can be used to swap parameters and therefore can localize many messages effectively. I think that it would be nice to move this function to meta module such as Module:Arguments. If you agree with me, please proceed. Thank you. --Nullzero (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

If we were to do that, we should probably put it in a new module, for example Module:Message or Module:i18n. Or perhaps it could even be integrated with the mw.message library. I agree that it would be nice to have a standardised way of localising modules like this. I'll ask at Wikipedia talk:Lua and see what others have to say about this. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:09, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

@Nullzero: I don't know if you've been following the conversation over at Wikipedia talk:Lua, but it turns out that the mw.message library can actually do this already, plus a lot more. For example, mw.message.newRawMessage("foo $2 bar $1"):params("baz", "qux"):plain() will give you "foo qux bar baz". So there's no need for a separate meta-module. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:49, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Yep, I have been following that page. Thank you for letting me know, anyway. :) --Nullzero (talk) 16:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Question regarding a page protection request you handled

I have been working to improve an article located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athiyur The talk page is located here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Athiyur

If you look at the diffs of the talk page this user Athiyurbala has edited your message there and put in her own name?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Athiyur&diff=next&oldid=594009404

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAthiyur&diff=594009404&oldid=591081872

The user is somehow trying to protect the page by putting her name there instead of yours and then putting a work in progress tag on the article page itself? I really don't understand how she can change the message from your user name to hers? Is she an admin too?

I am just trying to improve the article, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I have been working on the article in good faith but now she has blocked editing of the article?

Can you help or explain this?

Thanks Carriearchdale (talk) 09:06, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Nope, Athiyurbala isn't an admin, but seems to be a newcomer, and is making some typical newcomer errors. It's technically possible to change the text of my message, but it isn't allowed in the talk page guidelines, so I've reverted it. I've also removed the {{in use}} template, because I think it was likely not used for its intended purpose. I think Athiyurbala is probably annoyed because their edits keep getting reverted, but they haven't communicated with anyone so far, so it's hard to know for certain. Perhaps leaving a nice message for them on their talk page would be the best way to smooth things over. If that doesn't work, give me another message and I'll look into it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		Thank you for all the hard work you've put into Lua scripts on Wikipedia! Looking through some of the modules you've written, Module:UrlToWiki caught my eye. I'd been considering writing something like that once I was a bit more fluent in Lua. It's nice to see someone else had the same idea! – PartTimeGnome (talk | contribs) 22:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Glad to know that my hacking is being appreciated. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:37, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Atsme. :) I'm afraid I don't remember you from the last time we interacted, if we did, but I'd be happy to give you advice if you need any. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:32, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Rollback feature

Hi.

I have a question about Rollback. It appears that Twinkle can do exactly the same thing but is also available to all autoconfirmed users. So, why on earth would anyone want to become a rollbacker?

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Codename Lisa (talk) 18:47, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Having Rollback gives a user access to a few more tools like STiki and Huggle for example. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 18:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Yep, that's why I applied for the right back in the day, anyway. Native rollback is also faster than Twinkle's rollback, although not so much faster that it really bothers me. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:42, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Huh. It's like having members-only tables in a restaurant without any benefit for the members beyond the table itself....

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 23:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Superpower

Some discussions are as old as 17th January(older than 14 days). You should archive them. And the solved issues(like that comma one) should be marked as "closed". Agree? OccultZone (Talk) 05:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, 14 days is probably a little too quick to archive an article talk page, unless you are regularly getting page sizes of over 150kb. 30 days or 60 days would be more typical. And I did mark the latest edit request as done, which is as closed as it's going to get. :) We usually save {{archive top}} and co. for larger RfCs and noticeboard discussions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I would point, that there is no consesus about the proposed categories yet. Because the main article is unrelated with the categories. "States by power status", "International relations", aren't coherent. Currently there is only 1 superpower. OccultZone (Talk) 06:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I've left my rationale on the talk page, so it's probably best to keep discussion there. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

The content is only 14 days old and it was kind of commenting on the discussion for the article. Can the discussion of the achieve be breakon down at least (leave in and leave out)? I am thinking of the url's and acedemic sources in that particular discussion can be saved? I want to try and fix the article but within the research I noticed in the discussion seems pretty valuable for the talk page.--62.73.7.79 (talk) 06:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)