User talk:Kind Tennis Fan

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Kind Tennis Fan, you are invited to the Teahouse

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Golf major winners

Hi, thanks for clarifying the statement about golf major winners with this edit. However, according to Grand Slam (golf)#Career Grand Slam there are 16 or 17 golfers to win at least three of the four majors (depending on whether pre-Masters-era counts), not 15. I don't see where the 15 number comes from, but I may be misunderstanding or miscounting something. Anyway, I just thought I would mention it in case you can figure it out because you probably have a better knowledge of this than me. 86.160.215.247 (talk) 03:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, the 15 golfers are Nicklaus, Woods, Hogan, Player, Sarazen (who have won all four majors). The next 10 golfers who have won three out of the four are: Hagen, Barnes, Trevino, Armour, Snead, Mickelson, Nelson, Floyd, Watson and Palmer.

Please note that Bobby Jones did not win the Masters or the PGA Championship. Harold Hilton did not win the Masters, U.S. Open or PGA Championship. (The U.S. Amateur and British Amateur are not classed as professional major championships.)

Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 05:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Prospective events

Hi there, friendly critique ensues: As WP is an encyclopedia, it should be engaged in discussing events that have happened, and not envisioning things that could be. The best comparisons for athletes are those who they have achieved exactly as highly as, not those who they would be comparable to if in the future they achieve more highly. A list of those who have won all four golf majors belongs in an article on that topic, not in articles about golfers who have not achieved that mark but might someday do so.68.5.176.101 (talk) 06:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I have left your edit intact until one day perhaps Phil Mickelson wins the U.S. Open and completes the career grand slam. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 14:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Regarding your AIV report ...

I have blocked the IP for 24 hours. Since I don't recognize you as a regular reporter to AIV, I should let you know that, contrary to your request, IPs are never blocked indefinitely for vandalism, no matter how much it may be repeated. Only if it's an open proxy, and proven to be so, do we block an IP indefinitely as that condition is under the control of whoever owns the server that IP resolves to. All other editing issues can change over time.

However, I have found that the IP resolves to Culford School in England. This may be of assistance in helping us control vandalism from the page (assuming that it continues and we have to keep escalating the blocks), as it's not common for an IP to resolve to a particular institution below the higher-ed level. We can, if necessary, contact the administration there since any school vandal is usually violating their institution's computer-use policies (And since it's a British school, I bet the punishment if the vandals are identified will be that they get neither meat nor pudding If they don't also get their butts whipped, which I'm not sure they do anymore). Daniel Case (talk) 16:55, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining this Daniel. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 06:14, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Eden Hazard

Hi, sorry about not getting back to you, I glanced at your message this morning, went offline and completely forgot once I came back on. It's been protected now though. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

I know that you do a lot of work to help improve football articles, which I appreciate, and if there are further instances of persistent vandalism on articles that I see, I will go direct to the "Requests for page protection" section and I will request admin directly there. Thanks. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism

If we do it that way, we'll just be playing a catch-up whack-a-mole game. What I suggest is getting a list of all the IPs together, going to AN/I and asking for a rangeblock to be calculated and checked, if most of them are in the same range. Daniel Case (talk) 20:57, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Daniel,

Thank you for your reply. I have now reported this issue to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

FAC comment?

Hi. Would you be interested in voicing your support (or oppose/comment) at the FAC page for the article Of Human Feelings? If not, feel free to ignore this message. Dan56 (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism levels for protection

Hi there. I saw your comment/question at RfPP, and thought I'd let you know my take on it. For vandalism, I'm generally looking for around 2-3 per day for 2-3 days. Obviously, if there's a very high amount on a day, then the duration is lower, so that protection can be immediate. Every admin is different, but I think the broad consensus would be the same for most of us. Feel free to ask anything else here :) GedUK  14:07, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, giving your take on this. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 15:06, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

No problem. If you ever think a page needs protecting, just make the request :) GedUK  12:11, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I (Who Have Nothing)

While I agree that editorializing about performances has no place in the article about the song, "I (Who Have Nothing)," and that marginal recordings should not be listed alongside significant ones, the excision of numerous artists who recorded the song from the list of "other versions" seems arbitrary. Why is Robert Guillaume's version sufficiently notable to retain, but not Dee Dee Warwick's? Why the Spectres' version, but not Jordin Sparks'? Jedi Mind Tricks', but not Little Milton's? Why is Gladys Knight's rendition treated with the same disregard as that of the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain? Why is an album track by Greek singer Marinella worthy of inclusion, but not performances watched by millions on top-rated television programs such as American Idol and X-Factor?

Per WP:SONGCOVER, there is a standard of notability for inclusion in such lists, but I can't see how that standard was applied in your edit. Before addressing the issue in the article itself, I'd like to know what your thought process was. Pstoller (talk) 21:42, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pstoller. I trimmed the unsourced content because I felt it was too large an unsourced list. It was a big sprawling list of cover versions, which Wikipedia is not designed for. I didn't feel that the album track by Greek singer Marinella was particularly notable, but it did at least have a citation for it. All the content I removed did not have any references. I trimmed some of the unsourced content. I didn't remove all of it and I requested further citations on the page. Regards, Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 14:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Elm Guest House child abuse scandal

Hello, I have had a quick look but I cannot find that alleged claim by Chris Fay in any other news source. If you can find it in a more respectable news source (e.g. Guardian, Telegraph, BBC) than the Daily Express, then by all means put it back, but for now I have reverted Codeusirae's re-addition of your addition. Please see WP:REDFLAG. -- Alarics (talk) 07:00, 19 December 2013 (UTC) And see also User talk:Ghmyrtle#Poor sources. -- Alarics (talk) 07:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Alarics. I have given a full reply on your talk page. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 18:15, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Never Let Me Down Again

Hello! I noticed that you removed a lot of content under Notable covers at Never Let Me Down Again, commenting "I clicked on the reference provided and it did not verify any of these quotes by Martin Gore and Dave Gahan." What you really discovered, was a dead link to a fan message board that supposedly once contained transcripts of the source/sources in question. By deleting the passage you *almost* managed to prevent any editor from improving the section and adding better links. Next time, please use Dead link template instead of deleting content, if possible. Citation needed template is very useful, too. Thank you. --Sk4170 (talk) 13:15, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sk4170. Thank you for your comments. There has been a template at the top of the Never Let Me Down Again article for over 3 years since November 2010 requesting improved additional citations, but thank you for the advice regarding use of the Dead link template. Regards, Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 13:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm not aware of a policy that requires deleting of all unsourced content from Wikipedia. The refimprove and unreferenced tags are there to encourage wikipedians to give their precious time and contribute to articles. In my opinion removing content without making the effort to fix the links that aren't working or looking for better ones is not exactly an improvement. This way a lot of good content is lost forever. I want to add that not every single word needs to be sourced, unless considered incorrect. I also wouldn't consider unsourced something that is wikilinked and essential info can be read there. For people interested only in Depeche Mode, there are well over 100 wiki articles and an army of vandals of all sorts requiring attention from those who are willing to contribute a little more of their time than average. It was pure luck that I noticed what was happening at NMLDA, but don't have time to try and fix more than this tiny detail. Just some food for thought about the reality of being a Wikipedian. --Sk4170 (talk) 02:18, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Weigh-in on discussion?

Hi. Would you care to weigh in on this discussion/proposal to restore a review quote that had been removed from a music article? Dan56 (talk) 19:01, 23 March 2014 (UTC)