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:They did monkey this one up, didn't they? [[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 02:22, 27 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:I'll add that the whole selection criteria for the "In the News" section never made an ounce of sense to me. What's up with the big bold link to "Recent deaths"? What you are encountering here my dear IP is not any kind of systematic bias but just ye ol' regular incompetency and dysfunction of the 'pedia. I think.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 02:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC) |
:I'll add that the whole selection criteria for the "In the News" section never made an ounce of sense to me. What's up with the big bold link to "Recent deaths"? What you are encountering here my dear IP is not any kind of systematic bias but just ye ol' regular incompetency and dysfunction of the 'pedia. I think.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 02:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC) |
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==Turnout map== |
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I can't find the source for the information used in the "turnout by region" map. If the source is credible it would be useful to include in the text of the article, if not it should be removed. [[User:Stephen J Sharpe|Stephen J Sharpe]] ([[User talk:Stephen J Sharpe|talk]]) 02:01, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
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Opinion polls "Sandbox"
Bassed on Opinion polling for the next French presidential election.
Since there has been no poll since Batkivschyna nominated Tymoshenko for presidency thus Yatseniuk will not run I find it useless to put in polls who place both of them on 7.4%. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
First round
Poll source | Date(s) administered |
Sample size | Abstention/ protest vote/spoilt vote |
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Yanukovych PoR – Inc. |
Klitschko UDAR |
Tymoshenko Bat |
Tyahnybok Svoboda |
Symonenko Communists |
Hrytsenko C. Position |
Tigipko PoR |
Poroshenko Independent |
Korolevska U.–Forward! |
Mélenchon FDG |
Poutou NPA |
Arthaud LO | ||||
First round results | 17 January 2010[1] | – | 35.32 | – | 25.05 | 1.43 | 3.54 | 1.20 | 13.05 | – | 20.5% | 17.9% | 1.8% | 27.2% | |
Ifop | 9–12 October 2012 | 1,607 | – | 19.5% | 2% | 29.5% | – | – | 0% | 7% | 2% | 28% | 10% | 1.5% | 0.5% |
Ifop | 11–15 April 2013 | 1,967 | – | 22% | 2% | 30% | – | – | 0% | 10% | 1.5% | 22% | 11% | 1% | 0.5% |
Opinion Way | 16–17 April 2013 | 1,022 | 17% | 21% | 2% | 28% | – | – | 0% | 11% | 3% | 23% | 11% | 0.5% | 0.5% |
CSA | 26–28 April 2013 | 1,027 | – | 23% | 1% | 34% | – | – | 1% | 7% | 2% | 19% | 12% | 1% | 0.5% |
Future Thinking | 26–29 April 2013 | 1,000 | 25% | 22% | 3% | 32% | – | – | 0% | 10% | 2% | 15% | 15% | 1% | 0% |
29% | 29% | 3% | – | 16% | – | 1% | 13% | 2% | 18% | 16% | 1% | 0% | |||
31% | 31% | 4% | – | – | 11% | 1% | 14% | 3% | 18% | 16% | 1% | 1% | |||
BVA | 2–3 May 2013 | 1,086 | – | 24% | 2% | 29% | – | – | 0% | 10% | 2% | 20% | 11% | 1% | 1% |
anyway the elections are illegitimate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.210.71 (talk) 12:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Viktor Medvedchuk will be a candidate?
A leaked (the authenticity of which cannot be verified) Kremlin strategy to bring Ukraine back into Russia’s orbit indicates that Russia will deploy all efforts to prevent Ukraine from signing an EU pact, and that it will strongly back pro-Russian candidate Viktor Medvedchuk at the 2015 presidential election. ‘Ukrainian Choice’, the political party of Medvedchuk, is envisaged to play a leading role in promoting the country’s accession to the Customs Union].
- PS I posted this to see if this will happen. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:38, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- ^ Template:Uk icon ЦВК оприлюднила офіційні результати 1-го туру виборів, Gazeta.ua (January 25, 2010)
According to this latest poll by Razumkov Centre he would score 0.9% of votes.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:26, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Maybe there will be a single candidate from opposition in in the first round of these elections....
.... maybe not.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Possible reference.... (?)
Klitschko says Ukrainian administration wants to keep him from running for president in 2015/The Central Elections Commission filed an inquiry to the Ukrainian Constitutional Court for an official interpretation of the provisions of the Constitution outlining the requirements to parliamentarians and the president in terms of the duration of residence on the territory of Ukraine before elections — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Tymoshenko released
It should be noted in the article now that Yulia Tymoshenko has been released from prison and, having no criminal record, is now allowed to run in the presidential election: http://www.malaysiasun.com/index.php/sid/220190358/scat/b8de8e630faf3631/ht/President-Yanukovych-and-Ukraine-opposition-sign-early-poll-deal - Sausboss (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Opinion polls/possible candidates
Both these sections are now dated. Should the opinion polls to date be deleted, or put in a section entitled "Pre-Revolution" or something similar? I guess the tense of much of the possible candidates section needs to be changed too? Number 57 23:47, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Just highlight in thet able when the events took place. (which is done)Lihaas (talk) 13:44, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Coup not Revolution
First off, I removed the reference to "after Yanukovich fled the country". The term "fled" is loaded and POV. To say he "left" the country is non-POV... but the statement added zero value in the first place. Second, let's talk about some English language usage for all the Ukrainians on here, specifically the difference between literal and figurative language:
Revolution: "A fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time."
Coup: "The sudden and illegal seizure of a government, usually instigated by a small group of the existing state establishment to depose the established government and replace it with a new ruling body, civil or military."
Let me explain the difference clearly. A revolution occurs when forces abolish government power structures. This clearly did not occur. A coup occurs when one faction of the government seizes control of the existing power structures. This clearly did occur.
There was no revolution in Ukraine. There was only a coup. This position is non-POV and sustainable. I recommend: "Maidan Coup" or "2014 Ukrainian Coup"... but the term "Ukrainian Revolution" is both POV and misleading.
- Note: Above I use the literal definition of 'Revolution' to mean the violent overthrow of government power structures (e.g. the American Revolution). Revolution also has a figurative definition of 'wide-ranging change' (e.g. the 'industrial revolution').
- Applying a figurative term that is not literally true is necessarily POV. For example, neither the "Velvet Revolution" nor the "Orange Revolution" were literal revolutions and their names are POV and misleading. In both cases these monikers were coined by dissidents. I recognize that these are the terms that are widely used to refer to these events and, having become widely recognized, are appropriate titles in Wikipedia. That does not change the fact that they are POV. Nor does it change the fact that, in this case, there is no widely recognized name for these events that would justify such POV naming. I reiterate that the appropriate title is "Maidan Coup" or "2014 Ukrainian Coup" 173.79.251.253 (talk) 16:42, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Dobkin "under house arrest"?
Is Dobkin really under house arrest? In the past weeks he has been campaigning for president in public. Doesn't look like house arrest to me.
Two links containing news (in Russian) about his campaign:
http://www.unian.net/politics/906482-dobkin-somnevaetsya-stoit-li-vozvraschat-na-tron-yanukovicha.html http://www.unian.net/politics/907862-dobkina-oblili-zelenkoy-i-obsyipali-mukoy.html#ad-image-0 YantarCoast (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
situation in the east
Just going to list some good sources on voter indimidation and anti-election actions by pro-Russian forces in the east
--Львівське (говорити) 03:00, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Vice News is anything but a reliable source. Their videos are, their reports and conclusions are not.2001:630:12:2E1E:304F:A1F7:7EAF:96C3 (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- says who, you? they are considered reliable. they are a news outlet. --Львівське (говорити) 02:54, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- Vice news has been many times debunked for lack of credibility in their articles. Their on-the-ground reports are good and show the situation realistically, but when it comes to reporting, they tend to cover only one side (in this case Kiev side). I would explain to you further but knowing you from before, you will probably just keep trolling about reliable and non reliable sources, and its below me to debate you after taking a look at some of the sources you have referenced in the past. AzraeL9128 (talk) 03:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Information in Main page
In the Main page of Wiki in the section News we always write about results of elections in ANY country. There is no such thing about Ukrainian Presidental elections 2014. Why ?? I guess this is not appropriate place to write about it, but I dont know other place to do it. So please someone who can answer or help with this question respond me. Thanks in advance. 46.70.122.21 (talk) 20:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- They did monkey this one up, didn't they? Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:22, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'll add that the whole selection criteria for the "In the News" section never made an ounce of sense to me. What's up with the big bold link to "Recent deaths"? What you are encountering here my dear IP is not any kind of systematic bias but just ye ol' regular incompetency and dysfunction of the 'pedia. I think.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Turnout map
I can't find the source for the information used in the "turnout by region" map. If the source is credible it would be useful to include in the text of the article, if not it should be removed. Stephen J Sharpe (talk) 02:01, 31 May 2014 (UTC)