User talk:Tutelary

Hey. Welcome to my talk page. It's a place where you can leave me messages. Please do not leave templates unless it is absolutely necessary. See also the essay WP:TEMPLAR. I am a lady, so please do use female pronouns, but I won't fault you for not doing so accidentally. (I can be a bit masculine sometimes!) But anywho, don't hesitate to give me some critiques, invoke some discussion, or anything like it! Thanks.

List of music considered the worst

Users are continually removing Sgt. Pepper from this list on the grounds that the Beatles are beyond criticism. You yourself were involved in restoring this material after a sweeping deletion. Can anything be done to stop this happening? Thanks.

Bbb23's violation of community consensus / other violations of administrator conduct

Despite your civil request on Bbb23's Talk page, Bbb23 has so far ignored it. Please let me know whether you will be talking this issue to the AN or to Arbitration. Since this issue was already decided at the AN, and Bbb23 acted soon afterward to reject that consensus despite his/her involvement, perhaps the logical step would be to take it to WP:Arbitration with a request to review Bbb23's administrator conduct (per Administrators#Expectations_of_adminship) and to consider possible sanctions or de-sysop. Of course, I would be happy to assist in providing relevant historical diffs re Bbbs23 biased actions against me and other editors. Thanks. Memills (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

@Memills:, could you email me? Tutelary (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Memills (talk) 20:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I have mentioned you Tutelary at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Bbb23.27s_conduct_in_enforcing_article_probation. --Pudeo' 04:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Selfie

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CFK editing

Hello, I'm Ruizhernan and you have left me a message at my talk page. I'm a newbie in terms of editing articles in Wikipedia, so I'd greatly appreciate your help.

You say that I removed some content "without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary."

As I understand, I did explain why. I used the "Edit summary" box to explain that I was removing content that was absolutely biased.

I visited the article's talk page first, and I saw that there were 2 opposing views, let's call them A and B. A's claim that any edit they have done has been reversed by B's, whereas B's say that A's are free to edit if they wish.

I also notice that you removed the npov tag I put. Can you explain why you did that? If this was a mistake, don't worry - I'll put it back right away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruizhernan (talk • contribs) 22:01, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

@Ruizhernan: That's not a valid explanation, specially when you deleted a large number of bits from the article. If you believe the page is in need of some kind of improving (which article doesn't?) you can raise your concerns at the article's talk rather than mass removing content. Furthermore, you provided no reasons for the placement of the {{NPOV}} tag.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:11, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer: As you are well aware, the article's talk is no way to improve the article. Many people have attempted that, but you and Cambalachero won't reach a consensus with anyone. The two of you agree that "[sources] are reliable if they have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, editorial oversight, and no evident conflict of interest involved." But you had earlier said that "[Clarín and La Nación] qualify as reliable sources. Period." Either you are seriously ill-informed about Clarín and La Nación, or you don't know what a conflict of interests means, or you are totally biased in your opinions. I'm doing as you say. I'll edit the article according to Wikipedia's principles. I won't remove content. I'll just add content, and you won't be able to delete it. And one more thing, you say I didn't provide reasons for the placement of the NPOV tag. Here you demonstrate you're biased once again, because to anyone with the slightest knowledge about Argentinian politics, the article is OBVIOUSLY biased.

Please comment on Talk:List of best-selling music artists

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Rick Perry mugshot

Hello. Your rational directly contradicts this guideline and WP:NFCI #8 which says historical photos of famous people is a rational for fair use and even uses it as an example. There are other things wrong with that photo - but I intend to fix them. However, a historic photo that cannot be recreated of a BLP is allowed in the context of an article about that event.--v/r - TP 01:37, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. You can't use non free media of BLPs when the images are easily replacable. The 'historical' portion doesn't apply as it's not a historical image. A good exampl of that 'historical use' would be the non free media claim for the article 'Dewey defeats Truman'. Truman is no longer alive so it's allowed. It can't be applied here because of [WP:NFC#UUI]. Perry is a public figure and there are free images which would suffice. Tutelary (talk) 01:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

It is a historical image. It is an event - you cannot replace images that happened once. This photo is irreplaceable and the photo itself is covered in multiple reliable sources discussing the photo itself to include his tie, his smirk, his missing glasses, his hair, the lack of numbers, ect. This meets the NFCC.--v/r - TP 01:49, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

These sources are about the mugshot itself and discussing the contents of: Yahoo News "Perry’s mug shot, released by the Austin Police Department, quickly inspired a meme", HotAir "It didn’t hurt that Perry showed up for his close-up groomed, well dressed and ready for prime time.", Texas Monthly "He wears a dark suit and a smart blue tie, holds up no numbers, and gives a practiced headshot-taker's confident smile—they even got him from his best angle.", The Chron "A smirking Perry posed sans glasses for the camera, and the resulting photo has gone viral overnight.", ABC News "The question is, did Rick Perry take his mugshot with all the gubernatorial swagger expected of his office? And how does his mugshot stack up to the governor’s official portrait?"--v/r - TP 01:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

clarity

Let's be clear, I did not revert myself or unblock you in fear of 3RR, as you falsely claim here. I reverted my actions in good faith of the other editor's intentions, not yours. Next time you revert what I see as something I removed as a BLP violation, we will indeed go the distance. Dreadstar ☥ 06:23, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

@Dreadstar: My beef is that you didn't 'claim' it as a BLP violation in an edit summary. You edited another user's comment saying 'that's not what this page is for' or some variant, not claiming it as a BLP violation. Only after you blocked me did you finally cite NPA, NOTFORUM and BLP. I would've stopped instantly if instead of rollbacking (assuming my edit is vandalism, that's what rollback is for, not for reverting good faith edits) you would've claimed 'BLP vio, do not restore' or some variant and I would've stopped. Additionally, you blocked me while you were an involved and with no warning. WP:BLOCK specifically prohibits administrators blocking others whom they're engaged in a content dispute; Administrators must not block users with whom they are engaged in a content dispute; instead, they should report the problem to other administrators. Administrators should also be aware of potential conflicts involving pages or subject areas with which they are involved. Tutelary (talk) 13:19, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm not engaged with you in a content dispute, I'm engaging here on a policy issue. Dreadstar ☥ 16:04, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:The Girl Next Door (2004 film)

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Stupid Fat Hobbit

FYI, that's what Gollum called Samwise Gamgee, so it's really a compliment, unless you're Sauron. Pay attention. Dreadstar ☥ 22:26, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

internet topography

the article were created to describe the topology of the internet nodes, a topic of computer networks, but edits were made to talk in the article about interconnections of the world wide web, which is a totally different topic. the topoligy of the internet talk about the interconnections between serves, backbones and isps, while de interconnections of the world wide web is about websites and the links who connect them. therefor they are two completely different topics, please see and discuss in the respective talk page. Porcofederal (talk) 00:34, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are expanded, their definitions broadened, and what not. That doesn't give you the power to revert them to an earlier version 6 years old, and removing all of their contributions. No, if you feel that the article is going in the wrong way/confusing topics, edit that and fix it, but don't remove every single contribution. Tutelary (talk) 00:37, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

delete this Porcofederal (talk) 04:39, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Please, delete this. Porcofederal (talk) 18:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Notice

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Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

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ARBCOM clarification request regarding use of "TERF"

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