Talk:Gay Games

Controversy over Gay Olympics: Who Sued?

I added the disputed notation to this part of the article because I have conflicting information as to whether the USOC or IOC actually sued the Gay Olympics. This article says that the USOC sued. However, this article says near the end that the IOC sued and that the USOC sued.

Can someone look this up in LEXIS? Who exactly sued? The citation is (supposedly): International Olympic Committee vs. San Francisco Arts and Athletics, 781 F. 2d 733

--Tiger Marc^ROAR! 03:35, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

The official caption (from WestLaw) is:

United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit. INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, a corporation organized and existing under the laws of Switzerland; United States Olympic Committee, a corporation organized and existing under the laws of the United States of America, Plaintiffs-Cross- Defendants-Appellees,

v.

SAN FRANCISCO ARTS & ATHLETICS, a California corporation, and Thomas P. Waddell, Defendants-Cross-Plaintiffs-Appellants.

-MAS

Controversy over Gay Olympics: Boycott of Visa?

I've heard that Visa International was involved in the lawsuit over the use of the word, "Olympics." Was there a boycott of Visa? What are the details? --Tiger Marc^ROAR! 03:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

1st World Outgames Montreal 2006 Gay Games VII Chicago

In regard to the following paragraph found on the front page of this so-caleld encyclopedia -

"This has enabled the Montreal games to attract three times as many participants as the Chicago games, which have been rigged by drug scandals and a lack of social and political support from American institutions."

This statement is so awesome on all levels. The Chicago Gay Games is on target for particpants in regard to forecasts. There are no drug scandals - NONE. And the City of Chicago, The County of Cook and the State of Illinois political structure all endorse (in legal documents and official proclamations) the Gay Games in Chicago. The Mayor of Chicago and the City Treasurer are Gay Games VII Co-Chairs of the Ambassador program. I don't know where this statement comes from, but it is wrong and even mean spirited to perpetuate such very wrong information.

Article Vandalism

I had to fix some profane references in the upper portion of this article. It's really sad to see things like this go for so long unnoticed. It survived multiple edits, or so the article History says. 71.17.19.113 21:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I just now fixed some (badly written) vandalism. It'd only been there for two days, though. It was the most recent edit, too. Either way, it's gone now. 67.160.142.194 (talk) 21:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

???

Is there an actual quote showing that the organizer's "goals were to promote the spirit of inclusion and participation"? It seems to me that this event only promotes exclusion, in that it doesn't involve the participation of non-gay individuals. How can an event for a narrow demographic "promote the spirit of inclusion"? If anything, it promotes exclusion. Events and organizations such as this only serve to separate the gay community from everyone else. For the time being, I'm removing the nonsense about inclusion and participation. If you would like to counter my argument, please do so below. Fuzzform (talk) 20:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Interesting take but you got one key fact wrong, people with any sexuality or gender identity are welcome and, I believe, this has made it one of the largest sporting events in the world. Banjeboi 04:15, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

transgender vs gay

Mainstream sporting competitions are segregated on the basis of gender, which occasionally produces controversies because a fraction of the population have naturally ambiguous gender, but nonetheless crudely approximates a useful aim of levelling the playing field. Obviously this fraction must be better represented in the LGBT community; how does the gay olympics address apparent gender-related advantages (or gross inequalities)? Cesiumfrog (talk) 01:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, first, it needs to get rid of the term gay. The term gay is NOT a gender neutral term. It's guys, end of story. Misuse of the term is an agenda-driven misuse of the term and this is fairly quickly being corrected due to the national debate about same-sex marriage. The media is discovering that it can't continue using the expression "gay marriage" as a gender neutral expression without creating widespread and justifiable confusion.Godofredo29 (talk) 01:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Montréal/Outgames - Sources?

The section "Schism in LGBT sports communities over Gay Games VII " has had no sources for over almost a year (since the tag went up). if it is to stay someone ought to add the references, its not enough to hide that "this is from 2 sources." either set up a "see also" or add a "main" and link to the page with a brief paraphrase of the other page. currently thsi is not a paraphrase. (Lihaas (talk) 11:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

The situation with Montréal and the split (to OutGames) isn't just missing sources... it's missing some key info, namely the reasons why Montréal objected to OGG dictating the number who could attend. The Organisation of Gay Games didn't just try to limit the number of people... they were trying to limit the numbers under circumstances where the entire liability if the event didn't break even was on the Montréal group, with OGG exposed to no liability at all. How convenient... but add a bit of context: Montréal hosted the 1976 summer Owe-lympic games, infamous because the resulting debt took three decades to repay. The hugely-expensive Olympic Stadium built in Montréal for those games is even today nicknamed the "Big Owe" and "le gros bol de toilette" (the departure of the Montreal Expos baseball club leaves it as a costly stadium without a major-league team, the retractable roof was problematic from the outset, there was even falling concrete from this building at one point). Furthermore, the Gay Games had its own financial issues before Montréal, having bankrupted the previous venue's host group in Australia. As such, having OGG make all the key decisions while Montréal local organisers are left with all liabilities was not a viable proposition. There was media coverage at the time, although much of it is gay press or opinion pieces a few readily found are:

• http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Another-gay-games-feud-sparks-rivalry-2531706.php (San Francisco, Chronicle)
• http://www.xtra.ca/public/National/How_Montreal_lost_the_Gay_Games_twice-8739.aspx (Toronto, Xtra)
• http://www.fugues.com/main.cfm?l=fr&p=100_Article&article_id=7740&rubrique_ID=90 (Montréal, Fugues)

I also note the entire section about the 2006 World Outgames split is cut-and-pasted both here and World Outgames#Schism in LGBT sports communities over Gay Games VII. We probably don't need the same unsourced text twice in its entirety. K7L (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)