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Not an actual model that exists; other than that, intended meaning of the term "touch" is vague and useless. <font color="gray">'''Zeke'''</font>, the '''Mad <font color="blue">Horrorist</font>''' <small><sup>[[User talk:Zeke, the Mad Horrorist|(Speak quickly)]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contribs/Zeke, the Mad Horrorist|(Follow my trail)]]</sub></small> 05:34, 5 April 2015 (UTC) |
Not an actual model that exists; other than that, intended meaning of the term "touch" is vague and useless. <font color="gray">'''Zeke'''</font>, the '''Mad <font color="blue">Horrorist</font>''' <small><sup>[[User talk:Zeke, the Mad Horrorist|(Speak quickly)]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contribs/Zeke, the Mad Horrorist|(Follow my trail)]]</sub></small> 05:34, 5 April 2015 (UTC) |
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* '''''DELETE - RADERA''''' per above + [[WP:CBALL]] (This product is not announced and not leaked by any Apple officers) + This redirect misleads readers. The article do not have any information. Let them go to another sites to search for rumors by showing them a "Page does not exist" page. [[User:Andra Datormolnet]] {{su|p=[[User talk:Andra Datormolnet|Talk]]|b=[[Special:Contributions/Andra Datormolnet|CloudTracker]]}} 14:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC) |
* '''''DELETE - RADERA''''' per above + [[WP:CBALL]] (This product is not announced and not leaked by any Apple officers) + This redirect misleads readers. The article do not have any information. Let them go to another sites to search for rumors by showing them a "Page does not exist" page. [[User:Andra Datormolnet]] {{su|p=[[User talk:Andra Datormolnet|Talk]]|b=[[Special:Contributions/Andra Datormolnet|CloudTracker]]}} 14:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' this does not exist and the rediret can easily be recreated again if Apple ever announces such a product.--[[Special:Contributions/67.68.161.242|67.68.161.242]] ([[User talk:67.68.161.242|talk]]) 20:56, 6 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 20:56, 6 April 2015
April 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 5, 2015.
Hippocite
How do we know we aren't talking about Hippocrates? WP:SURPRISE. Delete. Mr. Guye (talk) 20:31, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- I made the hipocite page redirect to Hypocrisy because it sounds more like "Hypocrite" than "Hippocrates". "Hipocrite", in my eyes, is a common miss spelling of Hypocrite. You can remove/redirect the page if you disagree. Anarchyte (talk)
- Keep as is Yahoo, Google and Bing all include search result for "hypocrite" when "hypocite" is entered into the search bar. This seems to be a common misspelling, and I think the redirect is useful and will do the most good redirecting to its current target. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Ice Age 4: Continental Drift 4
- Ice Age 4: Continental Drift 4 → Ice Age: Continental Drift (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redundant. Name implies it's the fourth movie in a bizarre offshoot series. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:31, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
The Ice Age Movies
- The Ice Age Movies → Ice Age (franchise) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Ice age (disambiguation) lists two films that aren't a part of this particular franchise. Thus, these aren't all of the movies with Ice Age in the title, even if they are the most notable. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:24, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Yartzee
R & H are a bit too far apart on the QWERTY keyboard to make this a plausible typo. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 18:38, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Yes indeed, but I was probably going on pronunciation. R and H in that respect can sound very similar. This is Paul (talk) 19:25, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, plausible guess at the spelling for anyone with a non-rhotic accent. Siuenti (talk) 21:41, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per Siuenti, plausible mispelling. Keep in mind that bad spellings are not only based on keyboards, they are also based on pronunciation. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Yatsee
- Yatsee → Yahtzee (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Yazee → Yahtzee (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
A few too many typos. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 18:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep all Similar pronunciations. --Mr. Guye (talk) 19:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per Guye -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
The Donald
- The Donald → Donald Trump (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Trump is not the only person named "Donald". Mr. Guye (talk) 18:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. On that note, there should be a WP:CSD criterion for redirects that can't be made to apply to just one subject because there could be many many of them. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 18:36, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- "Donald" can refer to any number of notable figures, but "The Donald" refers to only one. See Donald Trump#Personal life. Keep. - Eureka Lott 18:58, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget to Donald (disambiguation) and add Trump there. IIRC, the head of a clan can be referred to as The CLANNAME and there is a Clan Donald. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:03, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget to Donald because that's where people with that given name are listed. Tavix | Talk 05:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep and hatnote target to the dab page and/or the given name dab. Trump is not the only person named "Donald", however "The Donald" fairly unambiguously refers to him. Ivanvector (talk) 14:45, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Peavey electronics eorporation
- Peavey electronics eorporation → Peavey Electronics (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely typo. On the QWERTY scheme, C & E are pretty far apart. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 18:27, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hmmm, looks like I originally created this, to fix a typo of my own, so unlikely or not, it seems we have at least one example of somebody doing it. But, whatever. I can't argue with any conviction either way. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Unlikely ≠ impossible. It's just not a possibility Wikipedia feels a need to account for. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Looks like the result of an OCR error -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:04, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep 9-year-old {{R from page move}}; harmless. Ivanvector (talk) 14:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Ennialation
- Ennialation → My Little Pony (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ennialate → My Little Pony (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Enielation → My Little Pony (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Enielate → My Little Pony (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Enialation → My Little Pony (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Enialate → My Little Pony (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I can't for the life of me see how these are relevant to My Little Pony. More confusingly, these are apparently typos for annihilation - which again seems to have nothing to do with the franchise. They were all targeted to annihilation but apparently that caused a double redirect which a bot came by to fix... and retargeted all of them to My Little Pony. More generally, I believe these fall under WP:RTYPO as they are badly-misspelled words. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 18:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Was the result of a vandal doing this. --Mr. Guye (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I figured it was because of some kind of MLP hate. That's part of why I'm doing what I'm doing - looking for obnoxious redirects like these. In any case, I still stand by my WP:RTYPO argument. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:18, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- I actually
Disagree with your RTYPO argument. Someone who has only heard the word and has no idea how to spell it may spell it like this. The redirect would then redirect them to the correct place (annihilation). --Mr. Guye (talk) 19:36, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- I actually
- That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I figured it was because of some kind of MLP hate. That's part of why I'm doing what I'm doing - looking for obnoxious redirects like these. In any case, I still stand by my WP:RTYPO argument. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:18, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget all to Annihilation per my above arguments. --Mr. Guye (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete all per WP:RTYPO. I feel like these are spelled a little too poorly to be plausible. Also note that all versions of that list with an a instead of e are red (which IMO would be more likely): Annialation, Annialate, Anielation, Anielate, Anialation, Anialate. We shouldn't create any misspelling we can think of just because there's a remote possibility that someone might spell it that way. Tavix | Talk 05:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget all to Annihilation (the pre-vandalism target): these are all very old, harmless redirects. Ivanvector (talk) 14:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
WaPo
I don't know about this one. Google does treat WaPo as synonymous with Washington Post, but that might have been influenced by the existence of this redirect. Newspapers have referred to themselves with shortened names. HuffPost comes to mind. But WashPost already redirects to The Washington Post. This rediirect was created in 2005 as a very short article that read:
Short hand for The Washington Post. The term is typically used by political bloggers.
It was then redirected to its current target by another user. I have no evidence to suggest that the short article was true. Mr. Guye (talk) 18:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- This redirect likely has very little to do with Google's rankings. Quick searches on Twitter and Google News show how commonly it's used. Keep as a blatantly obvious nickname. - Eureka Lott 18:53, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget to WAPO since it is a variant of its spelling AND The Washington Post is also linked there. --Lenticel (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, I like the retarget idea, but the Washington Post is the only one of those to use "WaPo." Therefore it's not ambiguous in my opinion. Tavix | Talk 05:04, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep; I'm with Tavix. I've seen this usage very often on Twitter; wapo.st is a shortlink for www.washingtonpost.com. Ivanvector (talk) 14:52, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
^ω^
This redirect was somewhat recently created (March 26, 2015). The creator's edit summary was "Happy Emoji redirects to happiness". Implausible. Mr. Guye (talk) 17:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete for now. I can't find a mention of it in both the emoji and the emoticon articles. --Lenticel (talk) 23:16, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I think this is a Japanese emoticon. It looks like one, with the use of the omega, which you can find in Japanese emoticons. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Move to wiktionary (convert the redirect to a direct statement ^ω^ is happieness or something), and transwiki that) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget to Emoticon, which is the target of a long list of emoticon redirects including (-:, 😈, ^-^, and so on. Note that emoticons that start with a colon can't be linked for technical reasons, or they would be in this list too. Ivanvector (talk) 14:59, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir(Islamic Students Forum)
- Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir(Islamic Students Forum) → Bangladesh Islamic Students Forum (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect from unlikely search phrase Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:52, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as this is all kinds of implausible. Tavix | Talk 05:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Sam etic
Delete: It doesn't make any sense to have two redirects of the same term to different articles (Lisa's Substitute and Dustin Hoffman). Also, the two letters ("S" and "E") will appear in capitals regardless of which case is typed. Pickuptha'Musket (talk) 11:58, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Retarget both to Lisa's Substitute#Production, which discusses Hoffman's choice to perform under a pseudonym for this episode in a fair bit of detail. Ivanvector (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Untitled Batman Project (2012)
- Untitled Batman Project (2012) → The Dark Knight Rises (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not untitled anymore (obviously). Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 05:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
IBlow
Seems to refer to a lewd decal that can be applied to any Mac laptop (and no, retargeting it to Macbook is just as silly an idea - one, it's just a lewd joke, and two, sticking "i" in front of something parodies Apple products in general, not just their laptops). Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 05:38, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete While Wikipedia is not censored, the redirect seems to not serve a reasonable usage. It's not a synonym for a MacBook Air, it's unlikely to be internally linked to, it only seems to be linked to on pages related to deletion discussion, and per WP:RFP#Delete, it's offensive and disparaging to the subject matter it targets and doesn't seem to have any encyclopedic value. Wugapodes (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
MacBook touch
Not an actual model that exists; other than that, intended meaning of the term "touch" is vague and useless. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 05:34, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- DELETE - RADERA per above + WP:CBALL (This product is not announced and not leaked by any Apple officers) + This redirect misleads readers. The article do not have any information. Let them go to another sites to search for rumors by showing them a "Page does not exist" page. User:Andra Datormolnet Talk
CloudTracker 14:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC) - Delete this does not exist and the rediret can easily be recreated again if Apple ever announces such a product.--67.68.161.242 (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
BillyG
I haven't seen any evidence that he actually goes by this name. This was created at the same time as StevieJ to Steve Jobs... Also note that Billy G is red. Tavix | Talk 03:32, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per nom -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:47, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as a joke redirect. Its creator doesn't seem to take Wikipedia seriously if you look at their talk page. Useless redirect. --Mr. Guye (talk) 17:26, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Template:harvrefcol
- Template:Harvrefcol → Template:Cite LSA (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per the discussion at Cite LSA, I'm proposing undoing the result of the TFD which was to rename {{harvrefcol}} to {{Cite LSA}}. I hope to put this revision back on the {{harvrefcol}} page with a notice that it is deprecated. The reason is that historic uses of harvrefcol are being broken by updates to Cite LSA which is problematic because those historic uses used it to cite in the Harvard style while the template at Cite LSA cites in the style of the Linguistic Society of America (which is substantially different from Harvard style). The {{harvrefcol}} used many non-standard arguments and had complex logic that makes it difficult verging on impossible to make backwards compatible. and current and future editors of {{Cite LSA}} shouldn't have to worry about how updates to the template will affect historic usages of an unrelated style that is connected because of a confusing name choice a few years ago. I am proposing this here because the previous TFD discussion makes me feel that an attempt at larger consensus should be gained before undoing it. Notifying users from previous discussions: Gadget850 started previous TFD, Ling.Nut3 created template, Jonesey95 discussed this with, Plastikspork closed previous TFD. Wugapodes (talk) 00:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Support. {{harvrefcol}} was at some point repurposed to support LSA-style citation, but development was abandoned before that work was complete. The template was then renamed to {{Cite LSA}}, as nobody appeared to be using harvrefcol for whatever its original purpose was. Wugapodes has done good work to finish this Cite LSA development work, but maintaining backwards compatibility with the half-built {{harvrefcol}} is neither reasonable nor sensible. {{harvrefcol}} should be restored to the state recommended above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:16, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- (I would also support restoring {{harvrefcol}} as described above, then substing its twenty or so existing transclusions, and then deleting it completely, but that may be a second discussion.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:16, 5 April 2015 (UTC)