Talk:Black Panther (character)

Capitalization of "black" as an ethnic term

As the word "black" is a descriptor rather than a nationality or other specific group, it should not be capitalized, just as we wouldn't capitalize "red", "white", "brown", etc. 75.21.197.40 (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Black Panther's role in Secret Invasion

We need to expand the info in his fight against the Skrull invasion upon Wakanda. Rtkat3 (talk) 5:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Why? Got some good sources about it? Or just plot? I think we'd do better to find some articles about the 'new black panther' and write on that topic. I'd bet there's a writer interview or two out there. ThuranX (talk) 22:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Ultimate BP

I think that section is rather too long for a character that only appeared in one issue. MultipleTom (talk) 09:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Lead

Following WP:LEAD, the lead should be a summary of the article but the bulk of it is explaining that the name was older than the political movement but not as old as the tank brigade and that he wasn't the first black superhero. Which seems better placed in the publication history. Thoughts? (Emperor (talk) 21:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC))

Infobox image issues

OK

The current image, file:Blackpanther01.jpg, has been pointed out by one editor to have a troubling error in it. One the editor cannot abide - that, contrary to comic book tradition (over all, not just for this character), the cowl is depicted with realistic eye-holes. That is, there be pupils shown. (And of note since it showed up in the edit summaries - DD isn't a good example of this tradition since the eye-holes in that mask aren't holes...)

Now, I'm fairly the editor is familiar with the premise of BRD - edit Boldly, if it's Reverted, Discuss the change you want to see made. Preferably on the talk page since doing it in the edit summaries is going to look like edit warring. So here we are...

Frankly, I can see the point. The traditional/classic costume for the character is:

• Black bodysuit and trunks
• Simple black belt
• Black striped/ribbed boots
• Black striped/ribbed, tight fitting, gauntlet-esque gloves
• Black cowl that covers the entire face, has cat's ears, and has pupil-less, white eye-holes.
• Optional black cape/cloak

It would be nice to see an infobox image that hits all of those points. But swapping out for an image that uses the "bejeweled" costume - file:Blackpanther.png - is changing one issue (non-traditional eye-holes) for another (non-classic look). Something I really don't see as an improvement.

- J Greb (talk) 23:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Except Black Panther had the bejeweled look for his second and longest ongoing series. He's rarely portrayed with visible pupils. --DrBat (talk) 02:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

You know what, right up until "...for his second and longest ongoing series..." I honestly though this wasn't going to be another "Newest at all costs" or "Let's count issues, pages, panels, covers, and adaptations."

All things considered, ALL things, the bejeweled costume is a recent, minor variation. Pegging that as the replacement is as bad as, if not worse than, the unblanked eyes.

And to be clear: I agree, all things being equal, that the current infobox image isn't the best and should be replaced.

But replacing it should be moving towards the guideline, even if it is only getting rid of what was originally brought up as the problem - the eyes.

- J Greb (talk) 03:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't find the 'bejeweled' look to be a vast improvement. He doesn't have golden claws, or usually claws at all in the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s. I've seen the gold cloak clasp a couple times over his history, and, I've seen his mask vary on eyes a few times. I don't like the 'new ' image offered, but would be open to finding one a bit mroe revealing of the body, perhaps one of him in a more gymnastic/acrobatic light? ThuranX (talk) 11:37, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

What about this image? --DrBat (talk) 14:56, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey! I have that issue! ThuranX (talk) 16:59, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, that works. - J Greb (talk) 18:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Jet Jungle and his black panther, Jupiter

I am busy researching Jet Jungle and his black panther Jupiter, and wondering what role if any, it played in the creation of the Black Panther? Jet Jungle appeared as a radio play in South Africa in February 1965, and shortly thereafter as a weekly comic strip.Ethnopunk (talk) 14:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Volume Numbering

The volume numbering isn't consistent. Christopher Priest's series is referred to as Volume 2 in most of the article, but in the Collected editions section it is listed as Vol.3 . The problem seems to be if the 1988 mini-series is counted as a Volume too. IchiGhost (talk) 20:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Physics

No mention of shadow physics, the scientific field he created? --68.45.218.70 (talk) 12:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

African Diasopora?

How is this related to the African Diaspora if he there was no diaspora?68.151.52.178 (talk) 08:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Draft for Black Panther (film)

This is just a notice that there is a draft for Black Panther at Draft:Black Panther (film) until such time that it is ready for inclusion in the mainspace. All are welcome to come help nurture the article's development there.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:56, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Supporting cast section

This section is drastically overlong, and most of the characters listed are not even supporting characters at all, just one-off villains or guest stars. I propose chopping it down to the following for "Allies":

• Monica Lynne - A singer who saved T'Challa from drowning after being bested by Killmonger. His longest love interest, whom he pledged eternal devotion towards.
• N'Gassi - Adviser to T'Challa, acting regent when he goes away on missions.
• Okoye - One of the former Dora Milaje, a ceremonial betrothed/bodyguard of T'Challa. Okoye is of the J'Kuwali tribe and acted as a traditional, proper concomitant to the king, speaking only to the king and only in Hausa, an African dialect not widely spoken in Wakanda and thus affording the king and his wives a measure of privacy.
• Queen Divine Justice - The street-smart queen of the Jabari tribe of Wakanda raised in Chicago, and former Dora Milaje (ceremonial betrothed/bodyguard) of T'Challa. She originally went by the name Chanté Giovanni Brown.
• Storm - Ororo Iqadi T'Challa (née Munroe), a member of the X-Men mutant team; she is the Black Panther's wife, Queen of Wakanda, and mother of Azari.
• Shuri - T'Challa's sister. She has taken up the role of Black Panther, and is current ruler of Wakanda.
• W'Kabi - T'Challa's competent second-in-command, completely loyal to his liege.
• Zuri - A grumpy and gigantic elderly warrior. A close friend of the late T'Chaka, and one of T'Challa's most trusted advisers.

And to the following for "Enemies":

• Achebe (later known as Reverend Achebe) - A poor farmer somewhere in South Africa, Achebe sold his soul to the demon Mephisto. He is portrayed as a grinning, unpredictable, lunatic, warrior-mystic, regularly talking to his hand-puppet Daki without delusions that it's truly alive, and engineering complex plots of social unrest for profit or entertainment.
• Erik Killmonger - A powerful warrior and strategic genius in politics and economics. He has consistently bested the Panther in personal combat.
• Malice - Wakandan Mutate with superhuman strength, speed, and agility. She is a former Dora Milaje (ceremonial betrothed/bodyguard) of T'Challa.
• Man-Ape - Ruler of the Jabari Tribe a recognized micronation within Wakanda's borders. Now labeled a villain, M'Baku was Wakanda's greatest warrior second only to the Black Panther. He plotted to usurp the throne with the help of the outlawed White Gorilla cult who were ancient rivals of the Black Panther cult, which basically made them heretics since Panther worship is the state religion. Founding member of the "Pan African Congress on the Treatment of Superhumans".
• Ulysses Klaw - Murderer and betrayer of T'Chaka and personal archenemy of T'Challa. A powerhouse with near-absolute control of sound.
• White Wolf - T'Challa's adopted elder brother and the former leader of the Hatut Zeraze, the espionage elite police of Wakanda. Exiled by T'Challa, due to using recurrent torture and assassinations in his zeal to root out potential threats to national security.

Thoughts?--NukeofEarl (talk) 18:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC) It's been three days and I've gotten no input, so I'll have to assume the silence means that any interested editors think my proposal is fine as is. I'll go ahead and make the change.--NukeofEarl (talk) 15:14, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

BP Info/link box needs work

The thing at the bottom of the page w/related links -whatever that's called- is pretty anemic, and needs work.

For instance, the Malice link goes to a page that doesn't mention the second Panther villain, a major one during the Priest run, and far more notable than the Killmonger minion. For another, there are pages for a number of Panther villains not linked - Kiber the cruel, for example. Anybody game?96.37.252.235 (talk) 00:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)