Talk:Union Pearson Express

Stub

This article looks to be beyond the stub stage. Thoughts? David Henderson 02:34, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. I'll remove it. Mindmatrix 18:05, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

$22

The Express bus, from the Royal York hotel, used to (still?) costs about $20. I wonder if the 22 in its title could be a clue as to what a trip on this new route will cost? Lol. -- Geo Swan 17:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

17%

Has anyone done any research on this 17% stat (the alleged percentage of people who use Pearson who travel downtown)? It might be completely accurate, but I have always been a little suspicious of the way it is used -- no one ever seems to look behind the stat, or consider its relevance. For example:

• How is "downtown" defined?
• I assume that the % is based on people whose trips start and end at Pearson, and is not based on all those who happen to pass through the facility (i.e does not include those switching planes). I wouldn't mind having that assumption confirmed, however, because otherwise the # is meaningless.
• What are comparable statistics for existing airport rail links? What % of people using Heathrow or Gatwick, for example, head to central London? Given that people all over England drive to those airports, I'd be curious to know those figures. Any North American stats (off the top of my head, I am having trouble thinking of a NA airport with a direct-to-downtown rail link)? The 17% is really only relevant in context. Skeezix1000 18:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

There are a number of NA examples. BART in San Francisco, California, SEPTA in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, The T in Boston, Massachusetts, MARTA in Atlanta, Georgia, The L in Chicago, Illinois, and the Washington Metro in Washington, DC come to mind. This link [1] places airport rail ride share for these systems in the range of around 4-15%. (Ride share is defined by the % of passengers who get to the airport by rail.) Washington has the highest ride share (at 15%). One caveat: these numbers are fairly old (dating back to 1992). Darkcore 06:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

There is a rail link from the NY city subway to one of the New York airports -- JFK if I am not mistaken. I remember being struck by the difference in cost between that link and the Blue22 proposal. IIRC it cost $9 billion USD. FWIW it was a separate fee. FWIW it uses Bombardier rolling stock. IIRC there is a rail link to the Newark airport, which, although it is in NJ is also used by NYC air passengers. Geo Swan (talk) 19:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't it travel every 7 minutes, not 15? --64.231.54.184 16:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Four Budd cars? Or just three?

The article currently says the system will use four old Budd cars. I am sure I read it was going to use just three.

Ottawa Transit's experiment with light rail is initially using new German diesel cars on an existing rail line. My understanding is that if the experiment is seen to be a success then it will be replaced with a wider net of electrified rail vehicles on a separate right of way. That might make the German vehicles available. They are much newer than the 50 year old Budds, and would make the service more attractive.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Stops at Bloor and Lawrence? Or stops at Bloor and Eglinton?

It would make more sense to have an intermediate stop at the new Weston Road LRT station. I visited the site of the new station, in April, the day the first Tunnel Boring Machine was slated to start. I took a couple of dozen pictures. There is no GO station there now, but the plan is that the LRT station will include 15 bus bays and a GO station.

Mind you the LRT isn't scheduled to be finished until 2020. Geo Swan (talk) 20:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

There is a planned GO station at Eglinton, but nothing concrete. This article is only reflecting the facts in front of us. --Natural R_X 03:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Load at the Skywalk?

The article currently says the loading platform at Union will be near the Skywalk. Jeez louise, that doesn't make sense. Passengers transferring from the TTC or from a GO train or GO bus will have a long walk to the platform -- about a third of a kilometer.

Why isn't platform 1 of the existing GO terminal turned over to the Pearson Express? Geo Swan (talk) 20:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Please be aware that Wikipedia talk pages are not general discussion pages about the subject of the article. I would suggest checking out the Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board or something similar instead. Thank you. --Natural R_X 03:12, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Woah there!

The claim that the express will load at the Skywalk is completely unreferenced. I suggest this makes it relevant to discuss here. I've added a {{cn}}. If no one adds a reference I sugges this claim be removed altogether. Geo Swan (talk) 03:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I know that you know that the first platform is numbered 3. You've taken photographs there. The "departure lounge" in the Skywalk, or whatever they think they are creating, will be at the west end of that platform, and will segretate the high-flyers from the plebeian GO Train commuters. Look at the construction hoarding for the location. The trains will still use Union Station. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:48, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

• I'll check, next time I am here, if I remember. If asked, I would have said that platform is the one that bridge Bay Street, and connects the GO trains with the GO Bus station. Geo Swan (talk) 06:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

That's it. Same one. You can enter at the bus station, cross Bay Steet, walk west along the platform, cross York Street, and exit at the Skywalk. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:14, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, now we know it's correct. The UP platforms are west of York St., off the Skywalk, and they are an awfully long walk from the subway platforms if you're in a hurry or have luggage. --70.49.171.136 (talk) 03:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Route map

The map in the infobox was created with lighter shades on the then-proposed parts of the route. Now that the line is up and running, these should be fully coloured, but I don't know enough about the templates to figure this out. Could someone who knows their way around these things please make an update? Radagast (talk) 18:55, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

OK - Done. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:43, 12 June 2015 (UTC)