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:As source was added at the bottom of the table, two actually, one for Aldo and Mendes. [http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/results/2015_Results/12-12-15MMA.pdf Aldos] from the "STATE OF NEVADA DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ATHLETIC COMMISSION" as is on the pdf, by TKO. There is a difference in the sources, I would personally call it a KO, the State Commission call it a TKO, I dont know why. [[User:Murry1975|Murry1975]] ([[User talk:Murry1975|talk]]) 16:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
:As source was added at the bottom of the table, two actually, one for Aldo and Mendes. [http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/results/2015_Results/12-12-15MMA.pdf Aldos] from the "STATE OF NEVADA DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ATHLETIC COMMISSION" as is on the pdf, by TKO. There is a difference in the sources, I would personally call it a KO, the State Commission call it a TKO, I dont know why. [[User:Murry1975|Murry1975]] ([[User talk:Murry1975|talk]]) 16:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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::The source given, claiming that it was a TKO, also erroneously lists Anderson vs Weidman 1 as a TKO, to give one example. http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/results/MMA/2013/07-06-13MMA.pdf Whoever is changing the result to TKO, please stop removing factual content. Let's not be emotional about this. |
::The source given, claiming that it was a TKO, also erroneously lists Anderson vs Weidman 1 as a TKO, to give one example. http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/results/MMA/2013/07-06-13MMA.pdf Whoever is changing the result to TKO, please stop removing factual content. Let's not be emotional about this. [[User:NerdNinja9|NerdNinja9]] ([[User talk:NerdNinja9|talk]]) 00:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC) |
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John Conor McGregor
Is there any sources for this being his birth name? Murry1975 (talk) 18:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
How can one have a BJJ black belt and then be mentioned later having a brown belt only... so which is it? 108.168.108.221 (talk) 03:49, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
British?
According to the BBC McGregor is British, from the "United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland" (http://media.balls.ie/uploads/2015/07/12200708/bbc1a.jpg). Will we change it now that we have a "reliable source"? We can change it back to Irish when he loses a fight as I'm sure the BBC will give us a reference for that then. 188.141.10.11 (talk) 18:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think we should post it. BBC's report has not been received positively. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 18:55, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I see a bunch of bemused/amused tweets responding to an obvious error. [1] - they have not repeated it! --86.135.159.252 (talk) 11:33, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
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Change McGregor rank from #3 to #1 (updated on UFC ranking). Mtran76914 (talk) 21:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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This article should include a segment on McGregor's critics regarding two points of contention:
1. Critics contend that Conor McGregor is/was protected from facing higher caliber fighters in the run up to the title fight with Aldo. [1]This criticism was amplified after McGregor was booked to face Dennis Siver, but it has been somewhat tempered by his match with Chad Mendes, who was the most recent title contender, and has a reputation as a fighter of respectable skill. [2]
2. Critics, most notably Wanderlei Silva, contend that Conor McGregor's fights show evidence of match fixing. [3][4]Critics point to his opponents' seemingly inexplicable errors and lapses in judgment, coupled with quick referee stoppages and circumstantial evidence of the UFC's financial interest in the outcomes of McGregor's fights. Critics point to three of McGregor's fights in particular: Brandao, Poirier, and Mendes.
Replays of the Brandao fight show Brandao abruptly refusing to engage offensively, backing up with his hands down, then falling down in a prone position. In the finishing sequence, Brandao can be seen blocking nearly all of McGregor's punches with his exposed palms, but not attempting to stand or otherwise defend himself.[5]
Replays of the Poirier fight show Poirier falling to his knees after McGregor missed with a punch. As in the Brandao fight, Poirier seemed to abruptly cease meaningful offense and defense. After Poirier fell to his knees, all but two of McGregor's follow up punches can be seen to clearly miss the face of Poirier.[6]
In his fight with Chad Mendes, a clearly slower McGregor was on the receiving end of striking exchanges for a majority of the fight, and was taken down on multiple occasions. In several instances, Mendes appeared to have a fight-ending position (e.g. McGregor's arms pinned and face exposed), only to relinquish the positions voluntarily. Despite not having cardiovascular issues in previous fights, Mendes appeared to feign exhaustion after the first round. In the final sequence, Mendes relinquished a guillotine submission attempt and let McGregor stand up, and thereafter stood with his hands down until McGregor landed a combination of punches. referee Herb Dean, who has also faced criticism for his officiating of the fight, stopped the fight almost immediately.[7][8]
The UFC has not addressed these critics specifically, but has previously denied all allegations of match fixing.[9]
Guest User 01 (talk) 02:08, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/11/19/7251271/ricardo-lamas-conor-mcgregor-fears-wrestlers-ufc-interview
- ^ http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/7/12/8936299/ufc-189-results-conor-mcgregor-rallies-past-chad-mendes-claims
- ^ http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/13/8950775/ufc-189-wanderlei-asks-conor-mcgregor-fight-fixed-video-dana-white-big-liar-mma-news
- ^ http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2521405-ufc-189-an-historic-night-tarnished-by-vocal-lunatics
- ^ http://www.cagepotato.com/ufc-fight-night-46-mcgregor-vs-brandao-live-results-commentary/
- ^ http://www.mmamania.com/2014/9/28/6856035/ufc-178-results-recap-conor-mcgregor-vs-dustin-poirier-fight-review-analysis-mma
- ^ http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/12/8936333/conor-mcgregor-vs-chad-mendes-full-fight-video-highlights-from-ufc-189
- ^ http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/12/8934973/ufc-189-results-recap-chad-mendes-vs-conor-mcgregor-fight-review-analysis-mma
- ^ http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/7/17/4533138/ufc-168-dana-white-goes-off-fight-fixing-bieber-anderson-silva-chris-weidman-mma-news
- If you're serious (and you typed enough to make me think you are), most of that is unusable synthesis. You'd need reputable critics to analyze these fights and come to the same conclusions, not just point to fight coverage and then to a bunch of nuts on Twitter. Even if they aren't as nutty as the Bleacher Report article makes them out to be, they're still just riff-raff. Everyone has opinions.
- In my opinion, what happened to those poor boys was what happens to many fighters who realize they're outmatched while also getting hit very hard and mocked: they crumble. Break. Give up. Whatever you want to call it. McGregor just says that's what'll happen, loudly, before he does it, so it gets more attention than when the polite, quiet sort do it. You ever really look at a Demian Maia opponent's eyes after 12 minutes of helplessness? Same deal, just slower.
- Wanderlei's complaint might be notable, though. He's something of an expert. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:11, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
- I find it hard to believe you are serious. Unfortunately wikipedia is not a source for Reddit-esq debate, it is for encyclopedic, factual information, not gossip. Also, you reference all of your outlandish claims, but not a single source has even an iota of reference to what you are talking about.
LeinsterLad (talk) 21:45, 05 December 2015 (UTC)
- The fact of the matter is McGregor has crumbled the uncrumblable and Demian Maia's opponent's eyes showed emotion for the first time. It sure wasn't joy. And it sure wasn't predetermined. By bookers, anyway. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:37, December 13, 2015 (UTC)
Style shouldn't include BJJ
Per the norm with MMA fighters, style should indicate his general preference, not just disciplines he has learned. Otherwise, Royce Gracie should have Muay Thai listed as well, for example. --140.32.16.52 (talk) 04:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Someone screwed up this mma records page, please fix
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This article was the fourth most popular on Wikipedia according to the Top 25 Report with 1,139,804 views for the week December 13 to 19, 2015. McGregor became the became the UFC featherweight champion December 12. Congratulations to the editors of this article for the exposure of their work. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 18:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- That week, this also became the first MMA article featured "In The News" on Wikipedia's main page. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:10, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
Aldo Fight KO
The McGregor Aldo fight at UFC 196 was called via knockout not TKO. It's listed as a KO (Punch) at sherdog.com [1] and Bruce Buffer called it as being a knockout on the night. It should be changed. Marz8ar (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- As source was added at the bottom of the table, two actually, one for Aldo and Mendes. Aldos from the "STATE OF NEVADA DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ATHLETIC COMMISSION" as is on the pdf, by TKO. There is a difference in the sources, I would personally call it a KO, the State Commission call it a TKO, I dont know why. Murry1975 (talk) 16:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- The source given, claiming that it was a TKO, also erroneously lists Anderson vs Weidman 1 as a TKO, to give one example. http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/results/MMA/2013/07-06-13MMA.pdf Whoever is changing the result to TKO, please stop removing factual content. Let's not be emotional about this. NerdNinja9 (talk) 00:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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