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::::I'm sure John Howard said it best, whatever he said.--[[User:Jack Upland|Jack Upland]] ([[User talk:Jack Upland|talk]]) 13:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm sure John Howard said it best, whatever he said.--[[User:Jack Upland|Jack Upland]] ([[User talk:Jack Upland|talk]]) 13:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::The Howard book starts in 1949 and only says that Menzies strongly supported the appeasement of Hitler. [[User:Rjensen|Rjensen]] ([[User talk:Rjensen|talk]]) 13:19, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::The Howard book starts in 1949 and only says that Menzies strongly supported the appeasement of Hitler. [[User:Rjensen|Rjensen]] ([[User talk:Rjensen|talk]]) 13:19, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

There are some odd passages in the text. Menzies visits Germany 1939. He would have been appeasing, and not strutting around in jack boots. The economic growth of the 1950s was nearly all in the US, and was not global. Britain did not completely end war-time rationing until 1954! The text is implying that Menzies had nothing to do with the economic rise of the 1950s. My opinion is that the Oz rise was due to an increasing trade with the US, which was a product of Curtin's term and WW2. Menzies and his pro-British trade policies may have acted as a small brake on the economy during 1948 to '55. His purpose was to minimize the Reserve Bank's outflow of limited US dollars when airlines and industry wanted to buy American hardware. English pounds were easier to earn once the butter and pears started to flow.[[Special:Contributions/210.185.75.105|210.185.75.105]] ([[User talk:210.185.75.105|talk]]) 12:43, 18 April 2016 (UTC)


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Ahistorical nonsense by David Day

from http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/wanted-dead-or-alive-confirmed-deductions-in-biographies/ an article about bollocks in biographies:

Day has made a lot of false deductions in his career. In Menzies & Churchill at War (1986)), Day maintained that there was a serious move in 1941 for Australian prime minister Robert Menzies to replace Winston Churchill as leader of Britain. Yet Day cannot provide the name of one Churchill biographer or one historian of Britain in the 20th Century who holds this view.

The WP:OR (unfounded claims) and WP:RS (reliable sources) policies appear to be contravened in this article by anecdotal defense of Day's very strong but unsupported claims. ChrisPer (talk) 21:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Political subterfuge of that calibre is just about impossible to prove. It's all done behind closed doors. Unfortunately to ignore such rumors is to ignore 90% of politics.210.185.75.105 (talk) 12:19, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Claims of Nazi sympathy are politically-motivated hindsight

And should be removed. ChrisPer (talk) 23:55, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

good point--I did so and referenced a RS. Rjensen (talk) 00:51, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But some are still there. Probably the whole content should be removed and replaced with text based on John Howard's book.--Jack Upland (talk) 12:22, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What sentence do you challenge? Rjensen (talk) 12:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure John Howard said it best, whatever he said.--Jack Upland (talk) 13:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Howard book starts in 1949 and only says that Menzies strongly supported the appeasement of Hitler. Rjensen (talk) 13:19, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are some odd passages in the text. Menzies visits Germany 1939. He would have been appeasing, and not strutting around in jack boots. The economic growth of the 1950s was nearly all in the US, and was not global. Britain did not completely end war-time rationing until 1954! The text is implying that Menzies had nothing to do with the economic rise of the 1950s. My opinion is that the Oz rise was due to an increasing trade with the US, which was a product of Curtin's term and WW2. Menzies and his pro-British trade policies may have acted as a small brake on the economy during 1948 to '55. His purpose was to minimize the Reserve Bank's outflow of limited US dollars when airlines and industry wanted to buy American hardware. English pounds were easier to earn once the butter and pears started to flow.210.185.75.105 (talk) 12:43, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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