Talk:Ho people

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Ho Tribes are also residing in Odisha,Jharkhand,Westbengal,Assam,Madhyapradesh,Bihar also.If you have doubt, you can ask me on my talk page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biswajeet34 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Ho Tribe

Please edit Ho Tribe wikipedia by accurate,reliable sources with proper history,anthropology knowledges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biswajeet34 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

You seem to have limited English capabilities so I will list my points in short easy-to-understand bullets:

• Everything in my improvements was sourced, you gave no reason for reverting them.
• The version of the article you keep reverting to is in very poor shape. The WP:LEAD contains irrelevant information and "citation needed" tags and does not meet MOS:INTRO which says that the lede must summarize all the important information in the article. My improvements provided current academic sources and summarized things such as language, culture and education which is currently not covered in the article.
• There are no sources indicating the people listed in the "Notable Ho" section are Ho. Most of them are living people. This is a violation of Wikipedia's Biography of Living Persons policy.
• The whole article is written in very poor English with many grammar and punctuation errors which my edits addressed.

Stop reinstating the bad version. I am trying to improve this poor article but you are making it impossible by constantly reverting my work.--William Thweatt ^TalkContribs 07:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Consider using the {{Edit fully protected}} template. The administrator will consider making a change if you specify it clearly. The best plan is to say what sentence you want to remove, and what you want to replace it with. If you see grammar and punctuation errors, say what they are. EdJohnston (talk) 01:36, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Fully-protected edit request

Starting with the BLP problems because those are probably more serious than even the grammar/punctuation/spelling/referencing:

• Under the "Notable Ho people" subsection, please remove all the names except Lako Bodra and Bagun Sumbrai. Most of these are living people and there are no sources here or at their respective articles indicating they are Ho (I have checked them all). In fact, some of the articles indicate a completely different ethnicity (eg. Jaipal Singh Munda). There are two who seem to be deceased, but, again, there are no sources here or in their articles indicating they were Ho. Birsa Munda for example, indicates he was Munda, not Ho. I also did a cursory web search last week and was unable to find any reference to Ho ethnicity for these people.--William Thweatt ^TalkContribs 06:40, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Lako Bodra and Bagun Sumbrai may require sources as well. Those who are not BLP would not require self-admission but still a reliable source. Capitals00 (talk) 08:37, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that's why I asked for them to be removed. Lako Bodra is arguably the most famous Ho, having invented their alphabet and written their holy book; there is this source (and many like it that I could add if not for the protection). Bagun Sumbrai is a well known Ho politician, a quick google search finds this (not the best, I know, but it's 3 AM here and I'm tired...editing by request is so tedious).--William Thweatt ^TalkContribs 10:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:46, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Fully-protected edit request

1. Please change the title of the "Culture and Tradition" subsection to simply "Culture". It is redundant since tradition is a part of culture. It would also be consistent with other ethnicity articles.
2. Like much of the article, the first paragraph of the "Culture and Tradition" subsection is written in broken English. There are also red links, random white spaces and inaccuracies. I plan to rewrite the entire section with sources, but that would be even more tedious using this FPER procedure. Therefore, for now, please replace the entire first paragraph of the section with:

Ho village life revolves around five main parab or festivals. The most important festival, Mage Parab, takes place in the late winter month of Magha and marks the completion of the agricultural cycle. It is a week-long celebration held to honor Singbonga, the creator god. Other lesser bonga ("deities") are also honored throughout the week. Baa Parab, the Festival of Flowers held in mid-spring, celebrates the yearly blossoming of the sacred Sal trees. Sohrai is the most important agricultural festival, the date of which usually coincides with the nationwide Diwali festivities in the fall. It is a village wide celebration with music and dancing held in honor of the cattle used in cultivation. During the ceremonies, the cows are painted with a flour and dye mix, anointed with oil and prayed over after a black chicken is sacrificed to an image of the cattle bonga. Baba Hermutu is the ceremonial first sowing. The date is set each year in the early spring by the deuri who also officiates the three-day ceremony by praying and commencing his first sowing of the year. Jomnama Parab is held in late fall before the first harvest is eaten to thank the spirits for a trouble-free harvest.

Thank you.--William Thweatt ^TalkContribs 09:49, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Protected edit request on 11 October 2017

Biswajeet34 18:04, 11 October 2017 (UTC) I want to edit Notable persons .so,please allow me .