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== Summarization of multiple noteworthy reliable sources regarding criminal use in mass shootings in the United States ==

The subject of this article is a ''highly noteworthy category'' of firearms. The below proposed content is entirely compliant with Wikipedia policy and guideline; inclusion of this aspect of the subject is ''required'' by Wikipedia's neutrality policy, and the exclusion of all mention of this aspect is a severe policy violation. The sources are among the most highly reliable and noteworthy available, including ''[[The New York Times]]'', ''[[The Washington Post]]'', ''[[The Wall Street Journal]]'', [[CNN]], ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]'', ''[[U.S. News & World Report]]'', and ''[[USA Today]]''. These sources are much more noteworthy than most of the sources currently in the article. The use of the subject of this article in mass shootings is objectively, as measured by coverage in noteworthy reliable sources, the single most noteworthy aspect of the subject of this article.

<blockquote>According to the ''[[The New York Times]]'', as of February, 2018 AR-15 style rifles were used in five of the six most deadly [[mass shooting]]s in the United States between 2012 and 2018 (the 2012 [[Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting]] in [[Newtown, Connecticut]]; the [[2015 San Bernardino attack]] in [[San Bernardino, California|California]]; the [[2017 Las Vegas shooting]] in [[Las Vegas, Nevada|Nevada]]; the 2017 [[Sutherland Springs church shooting]] in [[Sutherland Springs, Texas|Texas]]; and the 2018 [[Douglas High School shooting]] in [[Parkland, Florida]]).<ref name=nyt20180215>{{cite news |newspaper=[[The New York Times]] |authorlink=Richard A. Oppel Jr. |first=Richard A. |last=Oppel Jr. |accessdate=February 15, 2018 |date=February 15, 2018 |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html |title=In Florida, an AR-15 Is Easier to Buy Than a Handgun |quote=Newtown. San Bernardino. Las Vegas. Sutherland Springs. And now, Parkland. Five of the six deadliest mass shootings of the past six years in the United States. In each of them, the gunman had an AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle...The N.R.A. calls the AR-15 the most popular rifle in America. The carnage in Florida on Wednesday that left at least 17 dead seemed to confirm that the rifle and its variants have also become the weapons of choice for mass killers.}}</ref> According to ''[[The Washington Post]]'', AR-15 style rifles were used in five of the most deadly [[mass shooting]]s between 2012 and 2018.<ref>{{cite news |title=4 basic questions about the AR-15 |first1=Julie |last1=Vitkovskaya |first2=Patrick |last2=Martin |date=February 16, 2018 |newspaper=[[The Washington Post]] |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/02/15/4-basic-questions-about-the-ar-15/ |quote=An AR-15 once again made an appearance at a mass shooting, this time at a Parkland, Fla., high school on Wednesday...These AR-style rifles have appeared in some of the deadliest shootings in the last few years, including a concert in Las Vegas, a nightclub in Orlando, a church in Texas and an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.}}</ref>

In February 2018 the ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' included the 2016 [[Orlando nightclub shooting]] in [[Orlando, Florida|Florida]] in reporting that AR-15 style rifles were used in the six most recent of the ten most deadly [[mass shooting]]s in modern United States history.<ref>{{cite news |newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]] |first=Matt |last=Pearce |date=February 14, 2018 |accessdate=February 15, 2018 |title=Mass shootings are getting deadlier. And the latest ones all have something new in common: The AR-15 |url=http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ar-15-story.html |quote=The nation's mass-shooting problem seems to be getting worse. And the latest, most serious shootings all seem to have one new thing in common: the AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle...in all of the latest incidents — Newtown, Conn., in 2012; San Bernardino, Calif., in 2015; Orlando, Fla., in 2016; Las Vegas, 2017; Sutherland Springs, Texas, 2017 — the attackers primarily used AR-15 semiautomatic rifles.}}</ref>
According to ''[[The Wall Street Journal]]'' in 2018, AR-15 style rifles were used in six of the ten deadliest [[mass shooting]]s in modern United States history.<ref>{{cite news |title=AR-15 Style Rifles: Popular and Easily Customized |first=Zusha |last=Elinson |date=February 16, 2018 |newspaper=[[The Wall Street Journal]] |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/ar-15-style-rifles-popular-and-easily-customized-1518796536 |accessdate=February 16, 2018 |quote=Six of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history have taken place since 2012. All of the shooters in those six attacks used AR-15 style rifles...}}</ref>
According to ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]'' magazine, AR-15 style rifles were used in six of the ten most deadly [[mass shooting]]s between 2008 and 2018.<ref>{{cite news |magazine=[[Time (magazine)|Time]] |first=Aric |last=Jenkins |title=Many Mass Shootings in America Have 1 Thing in Common: AR-15 Rifles |date=February 15, 2018 |accessdate=February 16, 2018 |url=http://time.com/5160355/ar-15-rifle-florida-parkland-school-shooting/ |quote=Six of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the U.S. over the past decade have used an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle.}}</ref>

''[[USA Today]]'' identified twelve [[mass shootings]] in the United States that involved AR-15-style rifles between February 1984 and February 2018.<ref>{{cite news |newspaper=[[USA Today]] |title=Why the AR-15 keeps appearing at America's deadliest mass shootings |first1=William |last1=Cummings |first2=Bart |last2=Jansen |date=February 14, 2018 |accessdate=February 15, 2018 |url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/14/ar-15-mass-shootings/339519002/ |quote=Here is a list of mass shootings in the U.S. that featured AR-15-style rifles during the last 35 years, courtesy of the Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries and USA TODAY research...}}</ref>

AR-15 style rifles have been described as "the weapon of choice" of perpetrators of [[mass shooting]]s by ''[[The New York Times]]'',<ref name=nyt20180215/> [[CNN]],<ref>{{cite news |agency=[[CNN]] |title=Why the AR-15 is the mass shooter's go-to weapon |first=Aaron |last=Smith |date=June 21, 2016 |accessdate=February 15, 2018 |url=http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/13/news/ar-15-assault-rifle/index.html |quote=The AR-15, the type of rifle used in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, is the weapon of choice for mass killers. Omar Mateen used a Sig Sauer AR-15 rifle, and also a Glock handgun, in his murder of 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, according to the FBI. He shot more than 100 people, including survivors, before he was gunned down by police...The AR-15, which has been used by the U.S. military in every war since Vietnam, has also served as a murder weapon in some of the most horrific mass shootings. AR-15s were used to kill and maim crowds of innocent people at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut; a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado; and a workplace party in San Bernardino, California.}}</ref> ''[[U.S. News & World Report]]'',<ref>{{cite news |magazine=[[U.S. News & World Report]] |title=How the AR-15 Became One of the Most Popular Guns in America, A brief history of the guns that have become the weapons of choice for mass shootings |first=Joseph P. |last=Williams |date=November 7, 2017 |accessdate=February 15, 2018 |url=https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-11-07/how-the-ar-15-assault-rifle-became-one-of-the-most-popular-guns-in-america |quote=They're lightweight, relatively cheap and extremely lethal, inspired by Nazi infantrymen on the Eastern Front during World War II. They're so user-friendly some retailers recommend them for children, yet their design is so aggressive one marketer compared them to carrying a "man card" -- although ladies who dare can get theirs in pink. And if the last few mass shootings are any indication, guns modeled after the AR-15 assault rifle -- arguably the most popular, most enduring and most profitable firearm in the U.S. -- have become the weapon of choice for unstable, homicidal men who want to kill a lot of people very, very quickly.}}</ref> and ''[[USA Today]]''.<ref>{{cite news |title=Why mass shooters are increasingly using AR-15s |first1=Bart |last1=Jansen |first2=William |last2=Cummings |newspaper=[[USA Today]] |date=November 6, 2017 |accessdate=February 15, 2018 |url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/11/06/ar-15-style-rifles-common-among-mass-shootings/838283001/ |quote=AR-15 style rifles have been the weapon of choice in many recent mass shootings, including the Texas church shooting Sunday, the Las Vegas concert last month, the Orlando nightclub last year and Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012.}}</ref>

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The article currently grossly fails to neutrally summarize the 2017 ''[[USA Today]]'' source, drawing out only the NRA's estimate of the number of rifles owned in the US, while conspicuously ignoring the lead of the source: the use in mass shootings.

If you oppose the above proposed content, kindly propose an alternative summarization of these noteworthy reliable sources. [[User:IMAParent|IMAParent]] ([[User talk:IMAParent|talk]]) 20:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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RE: introductory statement, origin/use of "modern sporting rifle"

Using Google and Wayback you can find the exact term "modern sporting rifle" (or rifles plural) dating back to 1913 at the least (see: Western New England Magazine; Volume 3, No. 1). More recently, this term can be found in multiple books on firearms, magazine articles, marketing material, and other relevant publication throughout the 1990s and early 2000s. Clearly the entire claim (and implication) that the term was "created" in or "dated" to 2009 is demonstrably false. Also, close variations such as "modern sporting firearm" or "gun" have been in use long before 2009, as have "sporting rifle(s)". See also: vis-a-vis "classic sporting rifle". If there are no objections on merit, I propose to delete this provably false statement that reeks of politicized viewpoint or advocacy smear against the firearm industry. -- Brewster1971 (talk) 00:12, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In a way the 1866 Winchester developed from the 1860 Henry used by the Union Army in the America Civil War was a modern sporting rifle with a military heritage. (Well, it was modern for 1860s.) American sports shooters tend to sporterize military rifles in part because they are seen as more robust and easy to maintain than many civilian designs. Also military vets often see no need to relearn a weapons system (safety, handling, maintenance) just to take up recreational shooting target or hunting. Americans have a tradition of adapting the current military issue weapon to sporting purposes and the government through the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, Director of Civilian Marksmanship, Civilian Marksmanship Program has actively promoted civilian possession and training with military arms. Countries that fear revolution have a history of banning civilian ownership of military rifles or even rifles of military caliber, but America has a tradition of the military relying on volunteerism in the face of national emergency and see civilian familiarity with issue arm as an asset and not a liability. Modern sporting rifles based on the current military issue rifle is just American. Like civilian Jeeps and Humvees. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 14:04, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Summarization of multiple noteworthy reliable sources regarding criminal use in mass shootings in the United States

The subject of this article is a highly noteworthy category of firearms. The below proposed content is entirely compliant with Wikipedia policy and guideline; inclusion of this aspect of the subject is required by Wikipedia's neutrality policy, and the exclusion of all mention of this aspect is a severe policy violation. The sources are among the most highly reliable and noteworthy available, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, Time, U.S. News & World Report, and USA Today. These sources are much more noteworthy than most of the sources currently in the article. The use of the subject of this article in mass shootings is objectively, as measured by coverage in noteworthy reliable sources, the single most noteworthy aspect of the subject of this article.

According to the The New York Times, as of February, 2018 AR-15 style rifles were used in five of the six most deadly mass shootings in the United States between 2012 and 2018 (the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut; the 2015 San Bernardino attack in California; the 2017 Las Vegas shooting in Nevada; the 2017 Sutherland Springs church shooting in Texas; and the 2018 Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida).[1] According to The Washington Post, AR-15 style rifles were used in five of the most deadly mass shootings between 2012 and 2018.[2]

In February 2018 the Los Angeles Times included the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting in Florida in reporting that AR-15 style rifles were used in the six most recent of the ten most deadly mass shootings in modern United States history.[3] According to The Wall Street Journal in 2018, AR-15 style rifles were used in six of the ten deadliest mass shootings in modern United States history.[4] According to Time magazine, AR-15 style rifles were used in six of the ten most deadly mass shootings between 2008 and 2018.[5]

USA Today identified twelve mass shootings in the United States that involved AR-15-style rifles between February 1984 and February 2018.[6]

AR-15 style rifles have been described as "the weapon of choice" of perpetrators of mass shootings by The New York Times,[1] CNN,[7] U.S. News & World Report,[8] and USA Today.[9]

References

  1. ^ a b Oppel Jr., Richard A. (February 15, 2018). "In Florida, an AR-15 Is Easier to Buy Than a Handgun". The New York Times. Retrieved February 15, 2018. Newtown. San Bernardino. Las Vegas. Sutherland Springs. And now, Parkland. Five of the six deadliest mass shootings of the past six years in the United States. In each of them, the gunman had an AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle...The N.R.A. calls the AR-15 the most popular rifle in America. The carnage in Florida on Wednesday that left at least 17 dead seemed to confirm that the rifle and its variants have also become the weapons of choice for mass killers.
  2. ^ Vitkovskaya, Julie; Martin, Patrick (February 16, 2018). "4 basic questions about the AR-15". The Washington Post. An AR-15 once again made an appearance at a mass shooting, this time at a Parkland, Fla., high school on Wednesday...These AR-style rifles have appeared in some of the deadliest shootings in the last few years, including a concert in Las Vegas, a nightclub in Orlando, a church in Texas and an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
  3. ^ Pearce, Matt (February 14, 2018). "Mass shootings are getting deadlier. And the latest ones all have something new in common: The AR-15". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved February 15, 2018. The nation's mass-shooting problem seems to be getting worse. And the latest, most serious shootings all seem to have one new thing in common: the AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle...in all of the latest incidents — Newtown, Conn., in 2012; San Bernardino, Calif., in 2015; Orlando, Fla., in 2016; Las Vegas, 2017; Sutherland Springs, Texas, 2017 — the attackers primarily used AR-15 semiautomatic rifles.
  4. ^ Elinson, Zusha (February 16, 2018). "AR-15 Style Rifles: Popular and Easily Customized". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved February 16, 2018. Six of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history have taken place since 2012. All of the shooters in those six attacks used AR-15 style rifles...
  5. ^ Jenkins, Aric (February 15, 2018). "Many Mass Shootings in America Have 1 Thing in Common: AR-15 Rifles". Time. Retrieved February 16, 2018. Six of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the U.S. over the past decade have used an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle.
  6. ^ Cummings, William; Jansen, Bart (February 14, 2018). "Why the AR-15 keeps appearing at America's deadliest mass shootings". USA Today. Retrieved February 15, 2018. Here is a list of mass shootings in the U.S. that featured AR-15-style rifles during the last 35 years, courtesy of the Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries and USA TODAY research...
  7. ^ Smith, Aaron (June 21, 2016). "Why the AR-15 is the mass shooter's go-to weapon". CNN. Retrieved February 15, 2018. The AR-15, the type of rifle used in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, is the weapon of choice for mass killers. Omar Mateen used a Sig Sauer AR-15 rifle, and also a Glock handgun, in his murder of 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, according to the FBI. He shot more than 100 people, including survivors, before he was gunned down by police...The AR-15, which has been used by the U.S. military in every war since Vietnam, has also served as a murder weapon in some of the most horrific mass shootings. AR-15s were used to kill and maim crowds of innocent people at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut; a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado; and a workplace party in San Bernardino, California.
  8. ^ Williams, Joseph P. (November 7, 2017). "How the AR-15 Became One of the Most Popular Guns in America, A brief history of the guns that have become the weapons of choice for mass shootings". U.S. News & World Report. Retrieved February 15, 2018. They're lightweight, relatively cheap and extremely lethal, inspired by Nazi infantrymen on the Eastern Front during World War II. They're so user-friendly some retailers recommend them for children, yet their design is so aggressive one marketer compared them to carrying a "man card" -- although ladies who dare can get theirs in pink. And if the last few mass shootings are any indication, guns modeled after the AR-15 assault rifle -- arguably the most popular, most enduring and most profitable firearm in the U.S. -- have become the weapon of choice for unstable, homicidal men who want to kill a lot of people very, very quickly.
  9. ^ Jansen, Bart; Cummings, William (November 6, 2017). "Why mass shooters are increasingly using AR-15s". USA Today. Retrieved February 15, 2018. AR-15 style rifles have been the weapon of choice in many recent mass shootings, including the Texas church shooting Sunday, the Las Vegas concert last month, the Orlando nightclub last year and Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012.

The article currently grossly fails to neutrally summarize the 2017 USA Today source, drawing out only the NRA's estimate of the number of rifles owned in the US, while conspicuously ignoring the lead of the source: the use in mass shootings.

If you oppose the above proposed content, kindly propose an alternative summarization of these noteworthy reliable sources. IMAParent (talk) 20:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)