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Islam in Sweden

Doug_Weller The references there don't mention such information though also why is the information even included in there its not even realted to the topic in hand? bolanriver (talk) 9:11, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Truth vs agenda

Doug,

At this point we might as well ask for page protection for BCE as I can post truth and put in citations all i want but clearly those w/ an agenda are bent on putting in opinions.

Is BCE widely used - no. What is CE / BCE based upon? - The time frames involving Jesus. Now I realize that the PC culture would love nothing more than to erase this but fact is fact. The rest of the article in fact confirms this and it does the reader little benefit to ignore this. I've provided citations numerous times only to have them deleted. I'm not a wikipedia expert but I've ran across those w/ agendas a few times in my years here. I once even had to argue w/ admins over a plant that can kill you if eaten green (but not yellow) b/c duffus mcgoos were hell bent on keeping fictitious info on the board. In the end, if it comes down to it, I'll move on as its really not a huge deal and I have a life. If Wikipedia wants to keep up false info well its Wikipedia house so they can rule it as they see fit. Best of luck. SGT-Craig (talk) 03:01, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@SGT-Craig: Looking over your talk page history and at the history for the Podophyllum article, the problem was that you plagiarized from a source, not other users' "agendas." Maybe if you tried paying attention to what others actually say, instead of just crying about "agendas" while completely ignoring the possibility that maybe you don't know what you're doing, you'd have more fun here. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ian, not worried about it random person. The point is helping people and protecting them. I cited information. They removed it. Big deal. I provided the citation and reworded it. Too easy. Same situation on BCE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view comes to mind. SGT-Craig (talk) 03:40, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:IP block exemption

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Scythians: Please comment

We want to rewrite the lead section. Would you please participate and comment here? Talk:Scythians#New_Iranica_article Thanks. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:06, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Doug, for all your explanations to me. I spent a lot of time editing his brief contents without destroying all the hyperlinks, etc. because I'm not at all computer literate. What I edited was all Dr. Volpe's original text, written him.

Thank you, Doug, for all your explanations to me. I spent a lot of time editing his brief contents without destroying all the hyperlinks, etc. because I'm not at all computer literate. What I edited was all Dr. Volpe's original text, written him.

Are you able to send the deleted text back to me please. I don't want to have to go through editing his section again unless I can just copy and paste.

is there no way I can edit his profile on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.174.21.2 (talk) 14:30, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

BCE

So Doug,, when I provide references that prove my point concerning BCE and the other side simply deletes them w/o providing references what then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SGT-Craig (talk • contribs) 17:49, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Settle it on the talk page, and find academic sources. Doug Weller talk 17:54, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Groar!

You blocked User:Gburdi, and this editor is an obvious sock. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: I need to look again at behavior, but technically they are very different. Doug Weller talk 14:37, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Interesting. Groar! left an edit summary in first-person as George Burdi.[1] Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: I saw that, but I don't know if GBurdi is Burdi. I blocked a username JaydaFransen but I wasn't at al sure it was the real Fransen. Doug Weller talk 19:17, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Gotcha. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

You are making a baseless accusation. I had quoted George Burdi from the interview, not referred to myself as him. Did you fail to notice the quotes in the edit? Groar! (talk)

Nellie Bowles

Could you throw up some quick semi-protection on this article? It's being attacked by IPs with garbage sourcing (The Blaze/Daily Wire). NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 14:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Nellie Bowles page

The correction in her New York Times article was a well-covered issue. Those sentences also use the direct quote from the correction. It can't be wikipedia policy that even notes made in the subject's own article is off-limits because an editor is concerned that it might somehow impugn on her own views of the author. Please edit in. Those satisfy all wikipedia policies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.207.62.209 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Doug Weller, the IP who made those edits is a webhost, just FYI. -★- PlyrStar93 _{→Message me. ←} 14:51, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@PlyrStar93: Interesting. Do you think it's a sock? Doug Weller talk 15:00, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Definitely possible, just didn't figure out who it is. See the previous IP's editing the page and got blocked - 2604:2000:8247:1D00:0:0:0:0/65, 68.173.122.81. These two are likely not proxies, and they should be the same person as they're located in New York area using Time Warner Cable. -★- PlyrStar93 _{→Message me. ←} 15:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year

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Sockpuppet edits

Hello. Can you please review Deportation and enslavement of Yaqui under the Porfiriato, Massacre of Yaqui under the Porfiriato, and Deportation of Yaqui under the Porfiriato? I noticed you have already deleted Porfiriato massacre against the Yaqui. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:05, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Omnipaedista: Done. I wasted far too much time on Morrister, eg checking sources, etc, I'm pretty pissed. Doug Weller talk 15:10, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Historicy of jesus edit

I noticed the page claimed that virtually all historians accept the existence of jesus as fact. But the last time I visited the page (about a year ago) it rightly did not say that. In the meantime I had a discussion with someone about the historicity of jesus and I pointed out that while there might be consensus among biblical scholars I'd rather listen to historians for having a more unbiased opinion on the matter. This person or someone who read the discussion must've changed the page since then without providing proper sources. The people involed with this page did not raise a flag however, for reasons unknown, that's why I reverted that change now. Fact is that the life of jesus is mostly not even discussed while studying middle eastern history because the lack of historical evidence. My sources for this are classes that I took on the university of Amsterdam and colleagues of mine who have an academical degree in history. There is a consensus among biblical scholars however, but that doesn't really mean anything because most of them are religious anyways and I worry about their objectivity on the matter. It might not be shocking that most of the sources on the wikipedia page are quotes of people saying jesus existed because other people said he existed. We all know the historical documents that are being used to confirm his existence. Biblical scholars see more in these documents than they actually prove, and historians just mostly dismiss them to avoid inaccuracies. So please leave the to saying that there's a consensus among biblical scholars, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuririn45 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

You need to put this on the article's talk page, and use edit summaries as I explained. Doug Weller talk 16:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Checking with you

I saw the ping you sent me from the 3RRN discussion. I'm pretty sure that I understand what was going on there (you pointing out the inconsistency of warning one editor without warning me, in the sense that the warning to the other editor was POV-motivated), but I want to check with you about whether you felt that I had done anything wrong, myself. I have understood my first edit, ([2]), as being the introduction of new language, but not as being a revert, and my subsequent edit, ([3]), as being one revert (a revert for which, of course, you sent me a "thanks"). I'd like to know if you think that I was wrong in any of that. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:04, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Tryptofish: yes, sorry, just one revert but that doesn't matter so far as the point I was making. But it was careless of me. I was the only one in the wrong! 18:40, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 06:57, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Valid reasons for switching from BC to BCE?

Hello Doug. I had an encounter with this user who, along with another account of the same user, converts BC to BCE in certain pages. When I liked to the user the WP:ERA guideline, the user replied that if the page has nothing to do with Christianity then anyone could change the era style to BCE at will. Is that true? It is true that most page converted by the user has nothing to do with Christianity, yet I don't think this can be reason enough. Now the user asked permission to change BC to BCE on Seleucus I Nicator. Khruner (talk) 17:16, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

No of course it isn't right. I'll post, but who's the other account? Doug Weller talk 17:39, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

I believe User talk:Stavinbc is clearly a WP:duck, as for his few contributions. Khruner (talk) 17:45, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Ask him which account he wishes to use. I'm going to be watching tv! I'll sort it tomorrow. Doug Weller talk 17:56, 22 May 2018 (UTC)