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*'''Oppose'''. Wikipedia does not use direct romanizations of the "original" word; we have [[Germany]] not [[Deutschland]]. [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=Indrajita+ramayana&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjryfG55bjcAhVT6Z8KHflECSoQvgUIJigB&biw=1440&bih=723&dpr=1 Google Books has 519 hits for "Indrajita ramayana"] and a "Did you mean: Indrajit ramayana", and [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&ei=B6lXW_LbFYip8APzsIigDQ&q=Indrajita+ramayana&oq=Indrajita+ramayana&gs_l=psy-ab.3...4053.4053.0.4460.1.1.0.0.0.0.138.138.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.aT5rSmI9Gfc 8870 hits for "Indrajit ramayana"]. [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 22:34, 24 July 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose'''. Wikipedia does not use direct romanizations of the "original" word; we have [[Germany]] not [[Deutschland]]. [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=Indrajita+ramayana&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjryfG55bjcAhVT6Z8KHflECSoQvgUIJigB&biw=1440&bih=723&dpr=1 Google Books has 519 hits for "Indrajita ramayana"] and a "Did you mean: Indrajit ramayana", and [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&ei=B6lXW_LbFYip8APzsIigDQ&q=Indrajita+ramayana&oq=Indrajita+ramayana&gs_l=psy-ab.3...4053.4053.0.4460.1.1.0.0.0.0.138.138.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.aT5rSmI9Gfc 8870 hits for "Indrajit ramayana"]. [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 22:34, 24 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Unlike Germany, which may be the accepted English word for Duestchland, Indrajita is |
Unlike Germany, which may be the accepted English word for Duestchland, Indrajita is the actual word/name and character from an ancient epic which has not undergone any change in the ~2,000 years that it has been around nor has some pan accepted modernization. |
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Indrajit is a language & region specific variation of the original word, Indrajita,which has nothing to do with the original name of the character. |
Indrajit is a language & region specific variation of the original word, Indrajita,which has nothing to do with the original name of the character. |
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Google Books may have such a result, but again, you're talking about a name which is DERIVED from the original character which HAS NOT changed. So Google Books result may be referring to modern day characters with the derived name or a region specific version of the name. |
Google Books may have such a result, but again, you're talking about a name which is DERIVED from the original character which HAS NOT changed. Indrajita is a HISTORICAL character that has existed outside of his name's derivative. |
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So Google Books result may be referring to modern day characters with the derived name or a region specific version of the name. |
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if this discussion was about a modern day person/character named Indrajit, then yes, that would make sense, but this is specifically about the original character/name. |
if this discussion was about a modern day person/character named Indrajit, then yes, that would make sense, but this is specifically about the original character/name. |
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By this logic, we should change every traditional/ancient name to align with modern derivation of that name. |
By this logic, we should change every traditional/ancient name to align with modern derivation of that name. |
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You need to cover all versions of the Ramayana. The nromal version is Lakshman kiled Indrajit after a fierce battle. Indrajit very much had his weapons and did fight. He was just disrupted from completing his Yajna which would have made him invincible
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@Capankajsmilyo Why cant you simply provide a [citation needed] tag and wait sometime for someone to provide the references ? You are simple axing a lot of data contributed by editors over the time ! At least have the decency to respect the contribution of other's dude !! If you go on this style i believe Wikipedia will be going back in time to its infancy !!. I am reverting your edits. Have patience and wait out for some time after putting the citation needed tag.Arjunkrishna90 (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Constant Vandalism
This article is constantly vandalised by a user named Aahwan sing. This guy is simply deleting data , a ton in fact and keep on doing it. Somebody please do something. Prasanthkumar17 (talk) 09:49, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Indrajit → Indrajita – Indrajita is the actual original name and the current spelling is a derivative from specific languages & not referring to the historical character as portrayed in the Ramayana in the Sanskritham language. Though there may be more search results for the name due to focus of english speaking newspapers towards regions where this derivative is used,that does not reflect the accurate naming convention for this character. Sanskritham does not have schwa deletion & therefore does not drop the ending vowel. 174.44.177.134 (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. Wikipedia does not use direct romanizations of the "original" word; we have Germany not Deutschland. Google Books has 519 hits for "Indrajita ramayana" and a "Did you mean: Indrajit ramayana", and 8870 hits for "Indrajit ramayana". SnowFire (talk) 22:34, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Unlike Germany, which may be the accepted English word for Duestchland, Indrajita is the actual word/name and character from an ancient epic which has not undergone any change in the ~2,000 years that it has been around nor has some pan accepted modernization. Indrajit is a language & region specific variation of the original word, Indrajita,which has nothing to do with the original name of the character. Google Books may have such a result, but again, you're talking about a name which is DERIVED from the original character which HAS NOT changed. Indrajita is a HISTORICAL character that has existed outside of his name's derivative. So Google Books result may be referring to modern day characters with the derived name or a region specific version of the name. if this discussion was about a modern day person/character named Indrajit, then yes, that would make sense, but this is specifically about the original character/name. By this logic, we should change every traditional/ancient name to align with modern derivation of that name. (e.g.Jesus to Joshua or whatever other derivation may exist.) Also keep in mind that english media is,unfortunately, dominated by region specific literature which may give their own derivations in place of the actual names. I would hope that wikipedia aims to spread the actual truth & not someone's version of it. 174.44.177.134 (talk) 02:23, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
RfC about the title of the page
The name should be changed to Indrajita as this is referring a Sanskritham character from the Ramayana & not the Hindi/Punjabi/etc. name derived into those languages & does not have schwa deletion. Perhaps a separate page which identifies it as a derivative of the original name can be created, but it is erroneous to represent a historically established character w/ a completely modern name.174.44.177.134 (talk) 19:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- I have removed the
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template. There is no need to hold a WP:RFC, for two reasons: first, it is not a RFC matter but a WP:RM matter; second, there is already an ongoing RM immediately above - one which you started yourself, just six minutes earlier. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
I was told to start an RFC by another moderator.
174.44.177.134 (talk) 02:18, 25 July 2018 (UTC)