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:The [https://nysmusic.com/2018/01/12/eric-clapton-reveals-career-threatening-medical-issues/ nysmusic.com] source which puts Clapton's albums sales at 130 million is useless as it is highly inflated when speaking of album sales only. As for the other source, [http://www.realclearlife.com/real-estate/eric-clapton-former-california-home-paloma-avenue/#1 realclearlife.com/] isn't a source to be used here and it's been [[Talk:List of best-selling music artists/Archive 36#Eric Clapton's 130m-records|discussed before]]. Overall, the 130 million records claimed for Clapton is still inflated as his worldwide available certified sales stand at [http://www.mediafire.com/file/pb7n6gy176u8md7/Eric+Clapton%27s+Certified+Sales.doc 69.7 million]. The 69.7 million certified units covers the 130 million by 53%, but it is clearly inflated. We'd need a claimed figure for Clapton that falls somewhere around 100-110 million, at least with his current certified sales. If in the future, he reaches at least 70-75 million with his certified sales, then yes, we can definitely consider the 130 million. As it stands right now, there is a 60 million units of gap between the 130 million and his certified sales.--[[User:Harout72|Harout72]] ([[User talk:Harout72|talk]]) 16:32, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
:The [https://nysmusic.com/2018/01/12/eric-clapton-reveals-career-threatening-medical-issues/ nysmusic.com] source which puts Clapton's albums sales at 130 million is useless as it is highly inflated when speaking of album sales only. As for the other source, [http://www.realclearlife.com/real-estate/eric-clapton-former-california-home-paloma-avenue/#1 realclearlife.com/] isn't a source to be used here and it's been [[Talk:List of best-selling music artists/Archive 36#Eric Clapton's 130m-records|discussed before]]. Overall, the 130 million records claimed for Clapton is still inflated as his worldwide available certified sales stand at [http://www.mediafire.com/file/pb7n6gy176u8md7/Eric+Clapton%27s+Certified+Sales.doc 69.7 million]. The 69.7 million certified units covers the 130 million by 53%, but it is clearly inflated. We'd need a claimed figure for Clapton that falls somewhere around 100-110 million, at least with his current certified sales. If in the future, he reaches at least 70-75 million with his certified sales, then yes, we can definitely consider the 130 million. As it stands right now, there is a 60 million units of gap between the 130 million and his certified sales.--[[User:Harout72|Harout72]] ([[User talk:Harout72|talk]]) 16:32, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
::Just found a reliable [https://www.koeln.de/koeln/was_ist_los/topevents/eric_clapton_711602.html source in German] for Clapton that claims 100 million records, I added him to the list.--[[User:Harout72|Harout72]] ([[User talk:Harout72|talk]]) 17:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
::Just found a reliable [https://www.koeln.de/koeln/was_ist_los/topevents/eric_clapton_711602.html source in German] for Clapton that claims 100 million records, I added him to the list.--[[User:Harout72|Harout72]] ([[User talk:Harout72|talk]]) 17:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

==Obvious vandalism: Rihanna's picture in place of where Elvis should be==

Can someone please fix that? The row of images should correspond to the list below it.

[[Special:Contributions/100.12.249.14|100.12.249.14]] ([[User talk:100.12.249.14|talk]]) 00:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

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Drake

Drake has sold over 241 million certified units but is placed in the "80 million to 99 million records" section because his claimed figure is 96 million. Why does his claimed figure matter when the actual figure is known? He should be placed among The Beatles and Elvis Presley. Flooded with them hundreds 11:54, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Drake's certified sales are aggressively streaming generated. His actual sales are really low.--Harout72 (talk) 13:32, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Even 96 million records is too high for Drake Esambuu (talk) 12:43, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kylie Minogue

  • 30 October 2011, @Harout72: say: "I replaced Kylie Minogue's 68 million claimed sales figures with 60 million claims as Minogue has begun charting in 1987 and her available certified sales ([19.1 million) can support sales figures of up to 61 million." [1]
  • 5 July 2018, @Elmisterioso1979: say: "Kylie Minogue will be at the list. she sold 80 million records [1][2][3]" ..... and no reaction. [2]

Now (December 2018), Kylie Minogue meets the requirements to the article. Since 2011 she has recorded three albums and few concert tours, I am sure that the official number of certified units is already sufficient. Now, in article there is Barry White (Total available certified units: 21.7 million) with the source of 100 million and also some other artists with total available certified units of twenty-few million, I think, Kylie Minogue has a similar number of certified units (or even more) + many sources for 80 million total selling. Please, check the information and add Kylie Minogue to the article. Greetings :) Subtropical-man (talk / en-2) 23:33, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Barry White has begun charting in 1973, not 1987. Kylie Minogue has begun charting in 1987, therefore, her claimed figures (in this case 80 million) needs to be supported by 57.7% certified sales, that is 46.1 million certified sales. Minogue's certified sales are only 23.8 million, she's not even close to being qualified for this list. By the way, the requirements of certified sales are posted above in one of the yellow boxes. One more thing, the requirements have changed significantly since 2011 as Japan has made all of its certified sales available.--Harout72 (talk) 03:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mariah Carey

Hello Mariah Carey's certified sales should be updated as Merry Christmas Album is now certified 2x Platinum (40,000) in Denmark and All I want for Christmas is You is now 5x Platinum in Australia up 70,000... so She is 110,000 or 139.9. Thanks fidelovkurt 19:28, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In Denmark Merry Christmas album was certified 2x Platinum long time ago, but that's 100,000 units, not 40,000. Where is Australia's 5x Platinum for "All I Want for Christmas Is You" posted?.--Harout72 (talk) 21:21, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is here https://www.auspop.com.au/2018/12/aria-chart-watch-501/ fidelovkurt 22:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Sheeran

Harout. I want to raise Ed's claim to 138m. Is that okay? Thanks. Politsi (talk) 09:25, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I think that's gonna be fine. His certified sales will still be 10 million above that figure.--Harout72 (talk) 13:25, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Celine Dion 250 million records

Hi, Celine Dion would be at the 250 million list???. I think that the 128.2 million of certificied sales are enough to be added ath the list https://ca.hellomagazine.com/music/02017063036970/celine-dion-career-by-the-numbers/4 Elmisterioso1979 (talk) 04:29, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Eric Clapton 2018

Hello, Harout72. I want to ask your help of evaluating two sources, and an article from Real Clear life that someone already brought in 2017.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/4hlX9ns3j3mMT9PbfTkYWYH/18-reasons-to-feel-cheerful-about-2018

https://nysmusic.com/2018/01/12/eric-clapton-reveals-career-threatening-medical-issues/

These clips were written in 2018, just after someone took an article in 2016 like,

http://www.realclearlife.com/real-estate/eric-clapton-former-california-home-paloma-avenue/#1

Harout72, you have near 500 references. However, in 2017 there was only one source— which was Real Clear Life —for claiming Eric Clapton's estimated sales reached 130 million records. Furthermore, a possible problem of inflation kept us from adding him in this list. Now, I want to read your conclusion whether these sources are available for us, as Eric's certificated sales points near 70 million and it is up to 20% since his charting have stated from mid-1960s.

Thanks for reading it. --222.102.96.175 (talk) 12:53, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The nysmusic.com source which puts Clapton's albums sales at 130 million is useless as it is highly inflated when speaking of album sales only. As for the other source, realclearlife.com/ isn't a source to be used here and it's been discussed before. Overall, the 130 million records claimed for Clapton is still inflated as his worldwide available certified sales stand at 69.7 million. The 69.7 million certified units covers the 130 million by 53%, but it is clearly inflated. We'd need a claimed figure for Clapton that falls somewhere around 100-110 million, at least with his current certified sales. If in the future, he reaches at least 70-75 million with his certified sales, then yes, we can definitely consider the 130 million. As it stands right now, there is a 60 million units of gap between the 130 million and his certified sales.--Harout72 (talk) 16:32, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just found a reliable source in German for Clapton that claims 100 million records, I added him to the list.--Harout72 (talk) 17:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious vandalism: Rihanna's picture in place of where Elvis should be

Can someone please fix that? The row of images should correspond to the list below it.

100.12.249.14 (talk) 00:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]