Talk:InfoWars

This article was nominated for deletion on August 19, 2006. The result of the discussion was redirect to Alex Jones (radio).

Let's review, shall we?

Let's review for our newly-arrived Infowars/Newswars/Prison Planet minions, shall we? Alex Jones claims that the US government kidnaps children and makes them slaves at our martian colony, that kids are only pretending to get shot at school and their parents are only pretending to grieve, that Michelle Obama is really a man, that Carrie Fisher of Star Wars fame was killed to boost DVD sales, that the coming New World Order is a demonic high-tech tyranny formed by satanist elites who are using selective breeding to create a supreme race, that tap water is turning frogs gay, that Temple of Baal arches will be erected in multiple cities around the world Real Soon Now, that the Democratic party runs a pedophile ring through pizza shops, that the US government commits acts of terrorism against its own citizens, that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons from hell, that the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami were a government plot, that Obama wanted to detonate a nuclear bomb in Charleston, South Carolina, that FEMA runs concentration camps... Sounds legit to me! --Guy Macon (talk) 18:03, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

This is why I give maybe two warnings (if that) before blocking anyone who tries to defend InfoWars as an RS on grounds of WP:NOTHERE and WP:CIR. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:39, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Everyone knows the slave colony is on planet Invisibilia that the New World Order has blocked from view with light-bending technology. The rest is probably true. O3000 (talk) 19:44, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

I thought it was on Nibiru? Guy (Help!) 20:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

You would say that, wouldn't you? (mocking) Nibaru! What an obvious false flag to hide THE TRUTH! --Guy Macon (talk) 00:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

InfoWars defenders are why I no longer have a button to email me on my user page. Words cannot describe how bizarre their messages are, but they seemed to figure out that emailing editors instead of posting directly on user talk pages lets them get away with harassment. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 12:20, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Discuss content, not users.Slatersteven (talk) 14:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

We are discussing the content of the article. Specifically, we are discussing the validity of the constant string of requests that we remove "conspiracy theory and fake news website". No comments about specific users have been made. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:12, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Removing those words is a valid request. You're saying that because some stories are absurd or proven false, that all of their content is false. That is misleading. If you decide to keep "conspiracy theory and fake news website" in the text, I formally request you do the same for CNN's page, MSNBC's, and FOX New's page, as they have also had numerous stories that have been proven false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madscientwist (talk • contribs) 21:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Owen Shroyer page

I think Owen Shroyer should have his own page. He has become a prominent figure on Infowars site and the alt-right movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayfabe007 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 April 2019

This page is full of lies. 2602:304:B2B2:3A9:93B:A033:7663:3C9B (talk) 04:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Nope. We use RS here. -- BullRangifer (talk) 04:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Still might be lies, after all Alex Jones might not even be his real name (In would not put it past him for it to be (like everything else he does) for appearances)Slatersteven (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

This talk page is for discussing improvements to the associated article, not for general discussion of the article's topic. Unless you are suggesting that we add a note to every statement of fact in the article, you are off topic and treading very close to the WP:BLP line. - SummerPhD^v2.0 13:20, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Very true, I will strike.Slatersteven (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 April 2019

info wars is a news site not a conspiracy site unlike CNN CreepplayZ (talk) 06:11, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Infowars claims that the US government kidnaps children and makes them slaves at our martian colony, that kids are only pretending to get shot at school and their parents are only pretending to grieve, that Michelle Obama is really a man, that Carrie Fisher of Star Wars fame was killed to boost DVD sales, that the coming New World Order is a demonic high-tech tyranny formed by satanist elites who are using selective breeding to create a supreme race, that tap water is turning frogs gay, that Temple of Baal arches will be erected in multiple cities around the world Real Soon Now, that the Democratic party runs a pedophile ring through pizza shops, that the US government commits acts of terrorism against its own citizens, that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons from hell, that the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami were a government plot, that Obama wanted to detonate a nuclear bomb in Charleston, South Carolina, that FEMA runs concentration camps... Sounds legit to me! --Guy Macon (talk) 07:54, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Provide one RS that says CNN is a conspiracy website.Slatersteven (talk) 08:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Of course no such source exists, but it may interest the reader to know what UNreliable sources are promoting the "CNN is part of a conspiracy" conspiracy theory: [1][2][3]

This is not to say that CNN does not on occasion cross over to the dark side[4][5] but they are generally reliable.

"The president of CNN Worldwide, Jeff Zucker, attempted on Wednesday to defuse the brewing controversy over his decision to change the network’s official slogan from 'The Most Trusted Name in News' to 'Holy Crap, We’re All Gonna Die'... 'This exciting new slogan is just one piece of our over-all rebranding strategy,' Zucker said. 'Going forward, we want CNN to be synonymous with the threat of imminent death.' "[6]

--Guy Macon (talk) 15:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Not all of Infowars content is "fake news"

Although I do agree with the fact that most of the content on Info Wars is probably fake, that doesn't mean every single article that is posted on the site isn't true.

For example, in their Europe division there is an article about UK's main political parties being punished in the recent England council elections. This is a story that has been repeated by many reputable sources, such as The Telegraph.

Another article, also in their Europe division, reports on an investigation being started in France after "May Day" protests where the police where water cannons and tear gas was used. It also presented how the police responded to this.

By describing them as a "fake news website" you are essentially strengthening their points on attack on free speech, deep state and other theories, which are absolutely not true. Instead, I suggest you replace the term "fake news websites" with a sentence that goes along the lines of this: The subject of most of InfoWars' articles and news stories have been proven to be partially, or completely, false. Animal28 (talk) 05:38, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Do you have a particular reason for your belief that it can't be a fake news website unless every single article is fake? Even The Onion sometimes prints things that are true. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:49, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

The example that you used is described by Wikipedia as a satire newspaper, not an actual news source. Animal28 (talk) 12:24, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but that's nonsense. The New York Times is referred to as a newspaper, even though it also has crossword puzzles and recipes. O3000 (talk) 12:27, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Not really a lot to add, a Victoria sponge does not just contain sponge.Slatersteven (talk) 12:31, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

I knew there was something amiss in the way I made Victoria sponge cakes.O3000 (talk) 12:37, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

I think there's a slight different between news articles, recipes and crossword puzzles... Animal28 (talk) 14:38, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. It's still broken. O3000 (talk) 14:41, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

The point I'm trying to get at is if you call it a "fake news" website, it would strengthen Alex Jones' claim that the media is trying to censor conservative points-of-view. We don't want that! Animal28 (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)