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His degree from Brown should be AB, not BA, as that is how Brown styles their “artium baccalaureus.” https://www.brown.edu/university-identity/content/academic-degrees


== Requested move 27 February 2019 ==
== Requested move 27 February 2019 ==

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His degree from Brown should be AB, not BA, as that is how Brown styles their “artium baccalaureus.” https://www.brown.edu/university-identity/content/academic-degrees

Requested move 27 February 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 15:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I realize there may be a WP:RECENTISM issue here, but this guy is getting 11,000 page views per day and the other two Andrew Yangs are getting less than 30. Also, "entrepreneur" may not be especially accurate. His VFA project was a charity, not a for-profit company. His Stargiving.com project was also basically charity oriented (although short lived). Only his work at MMF Systems and Manhattan Prep seem very substantial and entrepreneurial, and the article doesn't really focus on those. And at this point he is probably more notable as a political candidate than for his activities prior to 2017. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What are the colons in the wikilinks for? How did you check the page views? —Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 (talk) 21:35, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think the colons are to avoid redirects (they are inserted automatically by the {{requested move}} template). To check page views, go to the article history and look near the top of the page for a "Pageviews" link. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:43, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The colons don't seem to avoid redirects. They do make a difference for images. If you use "[[:File:Cavendish Banana DS.jpg]]", you get a blue link with the name of the file, like this: File:Cavendish Banana DS.jpg. But if you don't include the colon, you get a picture of bananas. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:31, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Bananas for comparison
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

@BarrelProof: By the way, I love how you give bananas as an example. Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 (talk) 04:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

:-) Yes, that was a little Easter egg. I was wondering whether anyone would notice it. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:42, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
seems like a poor choice, since "banana" is an ethnic slur for Asians who supposedly "act too white" and the guy is a New England preppie who went to an Ivy and is now running for president; you probably shouldn't put an Oreo on Obama's talk page either unless the topic is double-stuffing ballot boxes. 98.13.244.125 (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ouch! I never heard that term before. I was going for the banana for scale meme, of course, as the yardstick of the internet. —BarrelProof (talk) 03:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Quality of "Endorsements" Section

Is there a guide for what should be included in that section? It's full of random tweets from irrelevant random people on Twitter (a nazi, a professional video game player, a DJ), which aren't really "endorsements" in the way that term is normally used politically.

Miserlou (talk) 16:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Information on Yang advisor / influencer Andy Stern

I am not sure why the three sentences that I added about Yang's relationship to Andy Stern have been deleted. This information is factual, well-sourced, and relevant; it is also information that is in the public interest. The paragraph I posted is pasted below. It was deleted for being in the wrong section (which I agree with), I reposted it in the appropriate section, and it was deleted again for some reason (?) If I am doing something incorrectly please let me know. Thank you

Yang credits Andy Stern, an advisor to Yang’s campaign, for convincing him of the merits of a universal basic income. Mr. Stern is a controversial figure who recently was announced as an official adviser of the National Parents Union, an education reform group with deep ties to the Walton Foundation, the charitable arm of the family of Walmart heirs, the single richest family in America. The National Parents Union is a group that explicitly aims to undermine teacher’s unions.

Sources: https://consciouscompanymedia.com/the-new-economy/universal-basic-income-andrew-yang/ https://splinternews.com/high-profile-labor-leader-has-a-new-gig-fighting-agains-1836597318

173.79.58.161 (talk) 22:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence can likely be saved if you tone it down and accurately reflect the source. The ref actually says that he was influenced by Andy stern's book, among others. And it says that Stern is now an adviser. Your sentence makes it sound as if Yang hired Stern as an adviser, and then adopted Stern's opinions, but it appears that Yang liked Stern's book and then hired him. Not the same thing at all.
The rest of the material simply does not belong, in my opinion. It reads like an attempt to smear Yang, and is not properly sourced either. The second source does not call Stern "controversial". It does call him "high profile". Why would we care who Stern currently advises, or what their goals are, or who that group has ties to? None of that has anything to do with Yang. Meters (talk) 00:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

First of all thank you for taking the time to provide a detailed and thoughtful reply. Re: your first suggestion, I can see how you read it that way, and that is easily fixed. Re: controversial, You are correct that is not stated in that article; however it is common knowledge (among labor folks at least) and I will gladly provide a credible sources to prove that claim; there are many such sources. Regarding the relevance: Yang has repeatedly invoked Any Stern's labor credentials and history to lend credibility to his (quite central to his campaign) UBI platform; he has also invoked Mr. Stern in citing his own pro-labor positions. I will find the sources for these as soon as I have time and revert back. Knowing more about Mr. Stern provides important context for those claims. Think about it this way: if I were a candidate running for president, and I credited a "pro-consumer" patient advocate with developing my centerpiece healthcare policy, and used their "pro-consumer" bona-fides to give the policy credibility, would it not be relevant if that advocate was actually working for the pharmaceutical industry? Assuming I can come back do you with credible sources, do you agree with this logic? I am new to commenting on wikipedia and not looking to break any rules, and am happy to do things by the book. I also recognize that reasonable people may disagree on such issues, and while I have a strong opinion on this matter, am open to the possibility that I may be wrong. 173.79.58.161 (talk) 01:30, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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